If Lou wants to claim ‘libertarian’ as the name for a political movement that advocates lying, deception, and general scumbaggery, then why should we morally allow the term liberty and libertarian to be associated with lying, deception, and immoral scumbaggery?

Sorry. The origin of liberty is aristocracy, not parasitic low trust, lying, cheating, dishonest scumbaggery.

Liberty isn’t your fire-hydrant Lou.

You had your chance. you picked an immoral ethical code and failed.

You picked a pseudoscience and failed.

It’s time for the next generation to try to do better.

Sorry man, but Rothbardianism is a dead cat bounce.

What Libertarianism Is, and Isn’t