Curt Doolittle updated his status.

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—“Aren’t the Meds the founders of western civ?”—Dominic Leyva

Well, it’s the Yamna east, and corded ware west that founded western civilization’s uniqueness. It’s the greeks and romans that produced it’s scale. Whether the greeks were european is still in dispute. Itals (romans) are danubian (germanic). we still don’t know if the greek aristocracy was european, old european, or anatolian. (north south, or east west). There aren’t enough bodies for DNA yet, and the bodies we do have are all from outside the aristocratic classes. We need a few tombs or burians with DNA. The greeks, like the hittites appear to be european in social organization, language, and religions. Whether they were blue eyed and fair hair or brown eyed and black haired is only discernible from the literature, not from DNA yet. I suspect that the hellenes were europeans that invaded causing the bronze age collapse, or invaded to take advantage of the bronze age collapse.