@AndrewAnglin @ramzpaul @PutinOnTheRitz @kingofallnads @Afterrthought FWIW: IMO

@AndrewAnglin@ramzpaul@PutinOnTheRitz@kingofallnads@Afterrthought

FWIW: IMO if RU had offered to buy donesk+luhansk from UA for a discount on gas in 2014, the UA would have taken the deal, because we (as a Ukrainian at the time myself) wanted to get rid of the eastern provinces because they were the source of organized crime and source of the communist movement in Ukraine.

Before 2014, RU banks all but owned everything in UA because of the instability of the UA currency. RU had paid Yanukovych to gut the UA military, and between RU and the UA oligarchs, the judiciary and politicians were bought and paid for. UA citizenry spoke/speaks both Ukrainian and Russian (and the mixture or creole we call surzhyk (soor’-zh’ick) (what I speak).

If Putin had called Merkel, Cameron, and Obama (or at least Chuck Hagel) in 2014 and said “look, we don’t want to have to go to war over this, but our black sea fleet is based in Crimea and we can’t lose that to nato. We want to guarantee another 100-year lease on the island, in exchange for a 5% discount on gas to Ukraine that isn’t forwarded to Europe (for domestic consumption). ” Then he would have held the world moral high-ground, and assisted in the ongoing suicide of nato and western culture. He was, until 2014, the most highly regarded politician in the world, including time magazine man of the year.

He would have done that if he listened to Israel (who are masters of this shit). Instead he did the dumbest thing possible which was to violate the central premise of the postwar consensus: states do not violate borders, and engage in free trade, and we’ll all get richer. The USA paid for that order by burning our middle and working classes on the pyre of free trade and globalism.

Instead, RU tried to seize territory with the lie of little green men.
Fucking stupidest but most ‘Russian’ move of the past fifty years.

We have learned that both the Russian government and the Russian military is a Potemkin Village: a stage show. Kabuki theatre to keep the masses domesticated while the siloviki rape the country for every ruble possible.

“You never know whether you were a good or bad man until you are dead”

The reason is simple: one serious fuck up and you destroy your legacy.

Putin made one serious fuck up.


Source date (UTC): 2022-10-03 20:16:02 UTC

Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/109106178469934895

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