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Restore christian militancy or leave christianity behind.David PrestonThe idea that Christianity was a Jewish plot to bring down the white man is one of the most malicious and pitiful slurs employed by anti-semites. True, Christianity was founded by a Jew but Jesus was rejected by nearly all of his fellow Jews. The rabbis furiously denounced the new religion. The triumph of Christianity within the Roman Empire was a catastrophe for the Jews. In the space of a couple of generations they went from being a relatively privileged minority to being despised and persecuted outcasts. Many of the early Church Fathers, notably John Chrysostom, were ferocious Jew-haters. Some Jewish conspiracy that was!Mar 7, 2019, 2:02 PMJohn EdwardI don’t care about a couple desert tribes and their spat. That’s their business, not the business of Whites.Mar 7, 2019, 2:26 PMJim JimmboYou’re correct, Christianity will reform, or it will die along with all of the West.

I spent 2 years in Eastern Europe as a missionary and since I’ve been back I’ve been sorely disappointed by many of my religious colleagues.

Abortion will come up on social media, and their inclination to be nice to people and not be offensive is so strong they can barely take an actual stand against something as morally clear as ‘killing a baby at 9 months ready to be born is bad’ I mean how much worse can it get? What will be required for these people to take a stand? It depresses me.

We have demons to the left, and our side has been domesticated like cattle.

You’re right about Christianity Curt, but wrong about the reality of God. (I’m aware you don’t do faith and more or less think it’s hocus pocus)

Regardless If I like the propertarian solution to Christianity, christianity will, if it doesn’t reform lead to everyone’s death attached to it.Mar 7, 2019, 2:42 PMGreg HamiltonDavid Preston the idea things have to be plots is more ridiculousMar 7, 2019, 3:31 PMGreg HamiltonJim Jimmbo it’s strangely to the point where right wing atheists are more anti abortion than Christians. It shows how far they have fallen.Mar 7, 2019, 3:33 PMJim Jimmboits Sad but trueMar 7, 2019, 3:36 PMRoy BaehrIf you actually read christian scriptures, anyone who follows it will have to be a pacifist. So a person calling themselves a christian who is militant is one who is not following what their instruction book says. So they’d be better off putting it aside, drop the CogDis, an be men.Mar 7, 2019, 5:21 PMDomagoy WattsI suspect Christianity serves only as an alibi and logistics for militant nationalists and rightwingers. Every group has a BS peacenik fraction: moderate muslims provide that service to muslim terrorists. Even nations at large use that alibi in order to survive or escape the total condemnation of the victorious group. If a nation totally rejects it’s lame conservative, phoney religionist cover and places all the cards on the radical fraction and that radical fraction looses that population may face more dire repercussions.Mar 7, 2019, 5:31 PMDavid PrestonGreg Hamilton By the end of the first century Christianity was almost entirely a gentile phenomenon. To speak of it as a Jewish movement after this time is simply absurd.Mar 7, 2019, 5:50 PMJarrod MarmaLatin mass!Mar 7, 2019, 6:45 PMJon ZotzHow’s this for counter signaling curt? When the second civil war is over and we have established our new decentralized feudal propertarian society where you think it’s only ok to practice christianity if we recognize it as a myth based guide for morality: I’m going to put a bullet in you. I’m my own person, bo one tells me what religious beliefs i can practice in public or private. You would hinder free speech out of fear of your weak idealistic society crashing? You’re pathetic.Mar 7, 2019, 6:48 PMJim JimmboMormonism is a bit different, but no less cucked. We do have scriptures which encourage insurrection.Mar 7, 2019, 7:25 PMАнтон КормьеMar 7, 2019, 8:37 PMАнтон КормьеMar 7, 2019, 8:37 PMRichard MerkwürdigliebeYeah, no, not gonna happen. I’ve spoken with plenty of Christians, Prots, Catholics, and Orthodox alike. Most of them are tribalistic- but for Christianity first and foremost, and for Europeans second. Fervently pro-white Christians mostly only exist on the internet, and most of what they do is counter signal other Europeans who point out how cucked their institutions are today and jerk off about the glory days…

And argue among themselves about what those glory days were. Meanwhile, the actual mainline Christians are totally fine with the status quo. Hispanics and Africans love Christianity. Their conversion rates have never been greater, meanwhile, the “White Christian” of old is quickly diminishing, with a few exceptions depending on nation.

The choice is presented to Christians; your foreign god, or your native people. And more often than not, they pick their foreign God who had to be IMPOSED on Europeans through state conversions and murdering those who rebelled.

I wonder if Islam will tread the same path? I wonder if in 2000 years some dipshit European with a thin beard and a tablecloth for a hat will spew the same tired bullshit as the Christians do today?

“Islam has been here for two thousand years! Look at all these based Mosques that have been here for hundreds of years! Islam took over, so therefore, Islam is good! Let those Christian LARPers try and make a comeback- we’re just gonna kill em and rape their wives like we did way back then… Totally Pro European! Hashtag tradfash! Just like our ancestors…”Mar 7, 2019, 8:38 PMDan PooleRichard Merkwürdigliebe Outstanding comment.Mar 8, 2019, 6:03 AMSvan HerulChristian militancy cannot coexist with Native European Folk Religions and atheists….it’s design is like Islam, being Abraham lap dogs it’s entire structure is built around absolutely purging everything even it’s own people or it is turned off and becomes benign….it’s either old testament Jewish mountain demon….or persecuted Jewish martyrs….

So let’s leave them in the benign state. Move on if you bog your wheels in semantics with semitism your wasting your time.

Everyone that is Folk religious is not going to argue about stupid shit. We know the threats we want to save our nation’s that our forefathers created and our Homeland that our people settled grew within since the stone age!Mar 8, 2019, 10:52 AMSvan HerulDavid Preston Saul of Tarsus is the true founder of the church. The Jewish Massiah cult was rejected by it own people…they were certainly bitter but history shows that they didn’t magically appear in Europe…they were let in by Charlemagne and the new church of Rome.

We are not saying it’s anti-white. Christianity can be any race and European Christianity was by far the best at what it produced….but the roots of the tree, despite the different fruits it bears. are not us. It is a religion of other people not us.

Christianity proves every time that race means nothing to it… as of recently we could see over and over again that South American mestizo Christianity and even apologist Christians who are finding some common ground with Islam and its traditionalism have decided that it would be better to go with these non-white elements in order to preserve itself then to negotiate its true sense of what it is to be European.

It’s not a slur, it’s the truth….Mar 8, 2019, 11:01 AMCurt DoolittleDavid Preston chiristianity was voluntary for the greco-anatolians-syrians, but it was involuntary for europeans (germania).

The easter roman empire was not roman but greek. The emperors were not germanic european but old european. They imposed christianity (which was a religion of less than 10% of the population) on rome on purpose to destroy the aristocracy and the aristocratic cults, and the aristocratic schools (philosopy).Mar 8, 2019, 11:13 AMPhilip ClarkMar 8, 2019, 11:44 AMPhilip ClarkAmerican CrusadersMar 8, 2019, 11:45 AMDavid StephenTöten für WotanMar 8, 2019, 12:35 PMTom WattMar 8, 2019, 12:38 PMCurt DoolittleI didn’t say we had to do that. I said I wanted to discover if we could do that., We can’t. Therefore christianity stands.

Try not to be an idiot. I work in public. You are my guinea pigs and free guinea pigs.

You’re however just a liar, beause free truthful speech and free untruthful speech are very different things.Mar 8, 2019, 1:53 PMIvar DiederikThis is from Pagan Imperialism (German edition, 1933). I translated these two paragraphs into Dutch a few days ago. :DMar 8, 2019, 2:40 PMDaniel Roland AndersonJim Jimmbo

Raised LDS and served a Mandarin-speaking mission in Melbourne, Australia.Mar 8, 2019, 3:15 PMJim JimmboLDS, served mission in BulgariaMar 8, 2019, 3:22 PMThorvlad WotensonJim Jimmbo early Mormonism was way less cucked from what I read, the problem they had was insufficient numbers against a powerful host nation that they were trying to grow out of.Mar 8, 2019, 3:27 PMJim JimmboThorvlad Wotenson Early Mormonism more or less reflected some of that time periods attitudes on race. All of that has fallen to subversion and the steady grindstone of public opinionMar 8, 2019, 3:32 PMThorvlad WotensonJim Jimmbo unfortunately so, I think it was more doctrine that was too hard for people to swallow than just “attitudes on race” at the time. If I understand it right from what I have read, the atonement itself had to do with race to a large degree.Mar 8, 2019, 3:34 PMJim JimmboThorvlad Wotenson I’m not actually well versed in early LDS history, but from what I have read I wouldn’t doubt it. Apparently one of the Apostles in the 50’s would give all of the high status people he would meet a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_ClarkMar 8, 2019, 3:40 PMThorvlad WotensonJim Jimmbo

“It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it. I will venture to say that if Jesus Christ were now to pass through the most pious countries in Christendom with a train of women, such as used to follow him, fondling about him, combing his hair, anointing him with precious ointment, washing his feet with tears, and wiping them with the hair of their heads and unmarried, or even married, he would be mobbed, tarred, and feathered, and rode, not on an ass, but on a rail. What did the old Prophet mean when he said (speaking of Christ), “He shall see his seed, prolong his days, &c.” Did Jesus consider it necessary to fulfil every righteous command or requirement of his Father? He most certainly did. This be witnessed by submitting to baptism under the hands of John. “Thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness,” said he. Was it God’s commandment to man, in the beginning, to multiply and replenish the earth? None can deny this, neither that it was a righteous command; for upon an obedience to this, depended the perpetuity of our race. Did Christ come to destroy the law or the Prophets, or to fulfil them? He came to fulfil. Did he multiply, and did he see his seed? Did he honour his Father’s law by complying with it, or did he not? Others may do as they like, but I will not charge our Saviour with neglect or transgression in this or any other duty. At this doctrine the long-faced hypocrite and the sanctimonious bigot will probably cry, blasphemy! Horrid perversion of God’s word! Wicked wretch! He is not fit to live! &c, &c. But the wise and reflecting will consider, read, and pray. If God be not our Father, grandfather, or great grandfather, or some kind of a father in reality, in deed and in truth, why are we taught to say, “Our Father who art in heaven?” How much soever of holy horror this doctrine may excite in persons not impregnated with the blood of Christ, and whose minds are consequently dark and benighted, it may excite still more when they are told that if none of the natural blood of Christ flows in their veins, they are not the chosen or elect of God. Object not, therefore too strongly against the marriage of Christ, but remember that in the last days, secret and hidden things must come to light, and that your life also (which is the blood) is hid with Christ in God”

-Orson HydeMar 8, 2019, 3:53 PMJim JimmboThorvlad Wotenson Hahaha I’m sure that would go over well today at the LDS General Conference. Man, things have changedMar 8, 2019, 3:56 PMThorvlad WotensonJim Jimmbo exactly, I can hear the gasps now hahahahaha.Mar 8, 2019, 3:57 PMJim JimmboWell, I’m still a practicing LDS member for the most part, but I have decided that once the LDS church embraces Homosexuality- I’m out. I hope they don’t but it is what it is.Mar 8, 2019, 4:00 PMCurt Doolittle(thank you for this)Mar 8, 2019, 4:12 PMGreg WoodburyMar 8, 2019, 4:21 PMThorvlad WotensonJim Jimmbo for the most part it (lds Church) teaches good things and has better preferences than other organizations.Mar 8, 2019, 5:23 PMJim JimmboThorvlad Wotenson I agreeMar 8, 2019, 5:31 PMJon ZotzHah, i never read that you said it wasn’t possible abd therefore wouldn’t do it so I spoke from my experience of the truth. Thanks for calling me a liar because i want able to fully follow every bit of your diarrhea of the mouth. When shtf and Ive knocked off the politicians I want gone I imagine you’ll still be on the listMar 8, 2019, 7:57 PMCurt DoolittlelolMar 8, 2019, 8:21 PMAaron LongGreg Woodbury silly. Try use he painting of the four horsemen if you want a realistic comparison.Mar 8, 2019, 8:23 PMEric GroseZotz goes on the list.Mar 8, 2019, 8:57 PMDermot DanielThere is more to Europe then some whiny pagans in Verdun.Mar 9, 2019, 4:05 PMSean Emmchristian militancy actually makes as per your previously posted article on the difference between reciprocity vs. sadistic pleasure.Mar 9, 2019, 4:16 PMDavid PrestonThe fact that the ‘aristocracy’ and the ‘aristocratic schools’ collapsed before Christianity rather speaks for itself. The fact that modern-day pagan apologists seriously believe that some form of revived paganism will be able to resist the relentless advance of Islam in Western Europe also speaks for itself.Mar 9, 2019, 6:38 PMCurt Doolittlelaw can stop it. religion cant.Mar 9, 2019, 6:42 PMDavid PrestonThere is no law, none at all, that religion cannot sweep aside.Mar 9, 2019, 6:50 PMGreg HamiltonDavid Preston you seem to think a religion isn’t an organism. Christianity is jewish, the organism was created by them, a creator need not control an organism once released and quality organisms will spread, adapt, etc.

No different than AQ being created by Bin Laden but then it growing beyond his control and morphing into ISIS etc.

You’re straw manning by claiming others are calling it a “plot” and that it was created “to bring down white man” no one said that, so the only ridiculous one in the conversation is you by false-witnessing against others in the conversation.

and again you straw man with “modern day pagan apologists” but lets run with that anyways, are modern day christians going to stop islam? No they are not, in fact they are going to castrate their own sons and lend a helping hand to the invaders to impregnate their daughters.Mar 9, 2019, 6:51 PMGreg HamiltonChristianity is dead as a martial religion. There is no hope that way.Mar 9, 2019, 6:56 PMDavid PrestonGreg Hamilton Christianity is one way of embracing the Abrahamic tradition. There may be other ways. The future is by no means certain.Mar 9, 2019, 6:59 PMSvan HerulDavid Preston we apologise for nothing, “paganism” and European ethnicity are indivisible.

If you opened your eyes the vast majority of folk that are doing anything viable are the Folk religious people you are gnashing your teeth at.

With current state backing every form Christianity is falling right in line with political migrant policies.

Europe’s ( emphasis on this) form of Christianity is going to be preserved, protected and kept safely on historical display by generations of Nationalists who don’t want the second wave of a Abrahimic to ever take root in Europe….Mar 10, 2019, 3:06 AMClayton Willem O’BrienMuh free speechMar 10, 2019, 4:02 AMClayton Willem O’BrienThis is the guy behind the 300 confirmed kills copypastaMar 10, 2019, 4:03 AMDavid PrestonI find this passage screamingly funny. Evola portrays Christians as degenerate weaklings yet neglects to explain how they triumphed so decisively, routing their pagan opponents. As for the line about Christianity being against force, that is hilarious. Christians historically speaking have never been reluctant to use force once they have the power to do so. As for the line about Christianity being against aristocracy, the aristocracies of Europe coped just fine with Christianity for many centuries.Mar 10, 2019, 8:35 AMDavid PrestonThe fact that Christianity triumphed so decisively against all of these pagan cultures rather speaks for itself.Mar 10, 2019, 8:38 AMGreg WoodburyDavid Preston that’s like saying “anything that happened is good because it happened”Mar 10, 2019, 8:41 AMАнтон КормьеDavid Preston, Christianity was the socialism of the ancient world. At first it was the plebs of Rome that adopted the religion.

As it grew in popularity, the socialist revolution nearly overwhelmed the Roman Caesars. It was Constantine who adopted the religion in order to ride the revolution into power, and once he did, he paganized and de-socialized the Christianity.

The paganized and de-socialized Christianity, controlled by the culturally pagan Caesars, illegalized paganism and waged war on Rome’s pagan enemies.

True Christianity is Jesus’ pacifism of “love your enemies” and “turn the other cheek”. True Christianity is “there is neither Jew or Greek, slave or free”. True Christianity is the godfather of modern socialism.

Your Christianity is the false Christianity of the pagan Caesars. Your Christianity is one of proud warriors who kept their pagan holidays and pagan mindset.

Evola knows this and writes at length of his admiration of Roman Catholicism because it is so pagan and hierarchical and war-loving. His only dislike of the Catholic Church is that it is partly Christian.Mar 10, 2019, 9:00 AMEric GroseCongratulations on your upcoming marriage, Jon.Mar 10, 2019, 9:33 AMJon ZotzThank you. We will produce many white intelligent liberty minded children intent on the destruction of anyone who believes in violating natural born rights. Like Curt, who somehow thinks dabbling in limited speech but later abandoning the idea absolves him of the mortal sin.Mar 10, 2019, 11:38 AMEric GroseWhat are “natural born rights”? Jon ZotzMar 10, 2019, 12:09 PMEric GroseLet me be more specific. How do your “natural born rights” differ from the natural law that is described here? Serious question Jon ZotzMar 10, 2019, 1:22 PMEric GroseCome on Jon Zotz ! If you and your kids are going to put bullets into us, christian decency demands that we be informed of our crime. What would Jesus do?Mar 10, 2019, 6:55 PMJon ZotzEric you seem confused, ignorant, and a little unbalanced. Christianity promotes forgiveness and acceptance, but also lethal action in defense of self and others. Natural law, that’s my propertarian rights as a human. You might be retarded. Or at least deficiently autistic like Curt is.Mar 10, 2019, 11:52 PMCurt Doolittle^excuses. What do christians actually do other than cuck?Mar 11, 2019, 9:13 AMEric GroseChristianity is submission = weakness Jon ZotzMar 11, 2019, 9:19 AMArno KælandDavid Preston why don’t you attempt to answer your own question? How did Christians vanquish pagans and slaughter them en masse (e.g. Massacre of Verden) ?

Further, was this triumph a consequence of the exercise of Christian ethics?Mar 11, 2019, 9:32 AMIvar Diederik”Evola portrays Christians as degenerate weaklings yet neglects to explain how they triumphed so decisively, routing their pagan opponents.”

Superior technology and the might of the Roman Empire, all created by the pagan Romans and their pagan ancestors. The quote is about the Christian exhaltation of various weaknesses (poverty, meekness etc.), not about them being militarily weak themselves.

“the aristocracies of Europe coped just fine with Christianity for many centuries.”

That artistocracy was constantly in turmoil, with the greatest stressor being the struggle between emperor and pope, between the Ghuelfs and the Ghibbelines (the core issue of this book). And it is in that sense that the greatness of the Roman Empire was poisoned and its Aryan spirit lost.

The Nordic-Aryan pagan civilizations know only the priest-king or god-king. A singular ruler who holds both religious and administrative authority. Christianity brought about a separation of emperor and pontifus maximus. And so the Roman Empire ceased being Aryan.

Soon after the rise of Christianity, we lost Spain and Anatolia to Islam, that other Semitic poison, with many more invasions and annexations following (Greece etc.). Then after centuries of war, the aristocracy triggered the French Revolution, resulting in the mess we’re in today. Clearly Christianity didn’t strengthen Europe. It poisoned it.Mar 11, 2019, 11:13 AMLan KenI guess Constantine, Charlemagne, William I, etc. were just pagans LARPing as Christians.Mar 11, 2019, 4:15 PMCurt DoolittleyepMar 11, 2019, 4:30 PMLan KenI was being facetious, of course. Reading the NT apart from the OT results in Boomer Prot Christianity, however, when read in conjunction with the OT it results in the Church Militant.Mar 11, 2019, 4:35 PMArno KælandDid Charlemagne behave as a Christian? How many massacres is a Christian allowed before they disqualify themselves from being labelled as such?Mar 12, 2019, 5:08 AMLan KenAaron Read my previous comment. Plenty of massacres in the OT.Mar 12, 2019, 6:42 AMArno KælandLan Ken Not all that was in the OT is Christian – as instructed by JC.Mar 12, 2019, 6:43 AMLan Ken….? It’s the same God in both testaments.Mar 12, 2019, 6:44 AMArno KælandLan Ken Okay, let’s cease with this nonsense and get to the point. How, in Christian theology were Charlemagne’s massacres justified?Mar 12, 2019, 6:49 AMLan KenAaron I already answered your question.Mar 12, 2019, 6:50 AMArno KælandLan Ken oh you have – then quote it again please.Mar 12, 2019, 6:50 AMArno KælandLan Ken am I to understand your absence of an argument as evidence of its non-existence?Mar 12, 2019, 1:18 PMAaron NeelyI’m a big Evola fan, but he’s conveniently glazing over two truths here that run completely opposite to his point:

1. The collapse of the Roman Empire in the west was rooted in the crisis of the third century, an event which predated the dominant influence of Christianity in the west. In the East, where Christianity was more influential, The empire survived another millennium as a completely Christianized state.

2. He characterizes the 1400 years between the fall of Rome and his own time as one big decline in civilization, when in fact Europe reached it’s maximum hegemony in this time, and established it’s dominion over most of the Earth. This situation fell apart only AFTER Europe abandoned the Christian monarchies that precipitated their collective success, and replaced them with secular democracies.Mar 13, 2019, 10:57 PMIvar DiederikBut you’re describing economic and military ups and downs here, Aaron Neely, whereas Evola’s criterium is the Aryan spirit. His main concern is the split between secular and religious power, the separation of king and pope.

In his view, there cannot be a true empire when there are two separate, competing authorities in the realm, regardless of how much territory is conquered.Mar 14, 2019, 5:42 AMIvar DiederikFrom the same book, Pagan Imperialism:Mar 14, 2019, 6:21 AMSTAY ON MESSAGE

Restore christian militancy or leave christianity behind.