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photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/49347972_10156899555122264_7525335018206396416_o_10156899555112264.jpg GOALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR AGENCY AS WELL AS NATURE.

I prefer we target the virtue spectrum from stoicism (little agency), to epicureanism (personal agency, to aristocracy (political agency) rather than a universal. The technique serves the mind no matter what virtues we seek to give it, but that does not mean ‘monotheism’ so to speak in that we must all seek the same. We each have different agency. We require goals that provide mindfulness in accordance with our agency.Scott ClaremontDo you apply agency as a god/Demi god/hero in the sense as the Romans did? How does one grasp the spectrum of agency?Jan 7, 2019, 4:25 AMCurt Doolittlecan you reprase the question because I can interpret that far too many ways to provide an answer….Jan 7, 2019, 8:48 AMScott Claremontwhat bearings can one use to gauge his agency along the way? Is there a living example of god ? *the guy who has nothing but agency/no animal nature so to speak. A guy who has great agency but is still evolving his agency. Then a guy who has less than him, then all the way down to females and then the animalJan 7, 2019, 3:58 PMCurt Doolittlewe are gods. if we sat before aristotle and alexander today they would believe our claim – that at least we were demigods. They did not believe in the gods as we imagine, the simple people did just as the simple people do today. the demand for gods is iversely proportional to one’s agencyJan 7, 2019, 4:08 PMScott ClaremontCurt Doolittle who do we look to to model agency ? Our groupJan 7, 2019, 4:44 PMCurt DoolittleWhy would you ‘look’ to anyone?Jan 7, 2019, 4:45 PMScott ClaremontCurt Doolittle to know what agency looks like. How does one know if he’s doing it right or where he needs to growJan 7, 2019, 4:51 PMCurt DoolittleBill Joslin ^Jan 7, 2019, 6:37 PMBill JoslinWhat might clear up some confusion would be thinking of agency as the substrate which can’t be negotiated independent of structure (nature, social, institutional influences etc) and instead swap out the terms agency for autonomy. Where agency/structure are a pair within a constant relation (like supply/demand are a pair which have a constant relation) and autonomy is one phase or location along to curve.

By doing so agency in the way you are using it, or autonomy in the way I’m suggesting as an alternative, starts to become synonymous with soveriegnty.

We can obtain autonomy via institutional protection (law, individual rights) and social circumstances (enriched environment, opportunity, education etc) – or via our own industriousness, influence and power. (And combinations of each)

The former would be liberty, the later soveriegnty. The former demigods, the later gods.

Then on the other end of the spectrum from Soveriegnty would be those whose use of agency forces others to constrain and restrict their behaviour – they wouldn’t obtain much autonomy by way of consequences of their use of agency.Jan 7, 2019, 7:13 PMScott ClaremontIt is easier using the word autonomy. I have struggled with my own as I tend to look outside myself for intuitive feelings I know the answer, but cannot absorb the feelings so I look for an elder to talk about them.

Do you elders have elders to talk to or have you reached complete autonomy ?Jan 7, 2019, 9:13 PMBill JoslinScott Claremont me? I’m a flipp’n meathead. Hahahaha

I’m inhabited by Curt’s ideas, with the occasional meager innovation of my own. So no, I’m not autonomous, but with help of other have had a taste. Like soveriegnty via a network of allied men skilled in violence, together we can generate autonomy with each other via a network of minds which are skilled in disambiguation: Force multipliers together.Jan 7, 2019, 9:27 PMScott ClaremontBill Joslin who does Curt turn to ? Megan I bet..Jan 7, 2019, 10:04 PMScott ClaremontMegan K. Usui thanks babe. I appreciate your feedbackJan 9, 2019, 12:47 AMBill JoslinWhat? The palace whisperer deleted her tracks?Jan 9, 2019, 1:37 AMScott ClaremontBill Joslin yeah don’t get it. Maybe she thought she was a little too harshJan 9, 2019, 2:13 AMBill Joslin(you are too kind in your assessments- more.like managing the appearances of her affiliations)Jan 9, 2019, 2:15 AMGOALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR AGENCY AS WELL AS NATURE.

I prefer we target the virtue spectrum from stoicism (little agency), to epicureanism (personal agency, to aristocracy (political agency) rather than a universal. The technique serves the mind no matter what virtues we seek to give it, but that does not mean ‘monotheism’ so to speak in that we must all seek the same. We each have different agency. We require goals that provide mindfulness in accordance with our agency.