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photos_and_videos/TimelinePhotos_SxeO6JU-xg/49373614_10156897969902264_8666776646461685760_n_10156897969897264.jpg Croib MagaWhy was Norway rich in the early 20th century?Jan 5, 2019, 9:10 PMSean RingHere you go:

https://link.medium.com/ZwVbNGbgfTJan 5, 2019, 9:12 PMCroib MagaWow. Never thought about that but it makes sense.Jan 5, 2019, 9:17 PMSean RingThe morals of the story:

1. Be smart about your natural resources. (Norway)

2. If you don’t have any, build a banking industry. (Switzerland)

3. Manufacture, don’t bitch, to paraphrase James. (Germany, France, UK)

4. Secede from the laziness. (Italy would be at least 70% higher without the Mezzogiorno.)

5. Stay away from wine and war (the rest).Jan 5, 2019, 9:18 PMJonathan TilasWhat’s GNP?Jan 5, 2019, 9:28 PMSean RingGross National Product. It’s how they used to measure output before they switched to GDP. Quickly, it’s economic output by citizenship (regardless of where it’s produced) versus output within a country’s borders (regardless of who produced it).Jan 5, 2019, 9:35 PMGreg Hamiltonactually the moral of the story is have a R1b dominant society.Jan 5, 2019, 10:03 PMJonathan TilasSo wouldn’t higher numbers be better? I’m looking at this through the lens of GDPJan 5, 2019, 10:06 PMSean RingIf that were the case, Iberia would be much better off. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Haplogroup_R1b_%28Y-DNA%29.PNGJan 5, 2019, 10:44 PMSean RingJonathan Tilas Yes, absolutely.Jan 5, 2019, 10:45 PMSean RingThis may be clearer.Jan 5, 2019, 10:45 PMSean RingAnd I think the above reads “GDP” but they mean “GNP”.Jan 5, 2019, 10:46 PMVengefül BobmoranClearly GNP and GDP are missing something.

Who cares if you’re doing bank while selling your future? You’re not productive, you’re just a shitty accountant.

Or : No matter how rich you think you are, your own replacement is but a few distracted decades away.Jan 5, 2019, 11:43 PMLee TuckerSurprised Spain is so low. They really frittered their Empire`s legacyJan 6, 2019, 12:11 AMSean RingLee Tucker so true. If you haven’t read Ferguson’s Empire, I recommend it. It’s about England, but he contrasted how the Spanish crown constantly defaulted on its debt, despite having looted South America of its gold and silver, while England always paid its debts.Jan 6, 2019, 12:27 AMGreg HamiltonI didn’t claim guaranteed results.

Statistics don’t work that way.Jan 6, 2019, 12:35 AMGreg HamiltonThe wealth of nations map highly correlates to the R1b R1a line.Jan 6, 2019, 12:36 AMSean RingAnd correlation doesn’t imply causation. Though, it is an interesting observation.Jan 6, 2019, 1:14 AMGreg HamiltonWell no shit…

It’s more than an interesting observation. Genetics equals outcomesJan 6, 2019, 1:18 AMSean RingGreg, I don’t mean to piss on your parade, but basing anything on one variable isn’t good statistics.

First, GNP/GDP is output, not wealth. I’m not splitting hairs there; debt matters. Second, the Scandis are every bit as productive, though their haplogroup isn’t R1b. I’ve already mentioned Iberia. Third, if the US didn’t defend Western Europe after WW2, the USSR would have run over the rest, destroying output everywhere. Luckily, they wouldn’t have to go over the Pyrenees.

I’m onboard that IQ matters. But could you refer me to a paper on R1b dominant societies?Jan 6, 2019, 1:37 AMGöran DahlR1b is a Y-haplogroup, Greg; it doesn’t have an impact on your appearance, intelligence or behaviour. I hope you understand that. More than a quarter of all African-Americans are R1b, just so you know, and there’s an almost equal distribution of R1a and R1b in Germany and Norway, while there’s more than twice as much R1a in Sweden than R1b.Jan 6, 2019, 3:51 AMRichard HallSean Ring The Spanish empire was centrally run. The British was based on free enterprise.Jan 6, 2019, 4:46 AMLisa OuthwaiteNordic race FTW.Jan 6, 2019, 8:30 AMBartosz SzykThis map says only one thing – this was the GDP of the European countries in 1938.. nothing else..Jan 6, 2019, 10:48 AMGreg Hamiltondid I state a guarantee? No

Did I state no other factors matter? No

Did I state no other Haplogroups have a chance of success? No

I’m not a mathematician but even I can figure out that threshold levels would matter (Africa) and that mixing different Haplogroups in varying percentages would create different outcomes.

DNA plays a part in creating culture. DNA impacts IQ. Cultural IQ impacts success. IQ isn’t the only part of DNA that matters to success of a culture.

A betting man having no other information to help factor would pick a R1b dominant culture as a prediction of successJan 6, 2019, 11:42 AMGöran DahlAs long as you understand that haplogroups have nothing to do with DNA at large, and that changing a man’s haplogroup from R1b to I1a does nothing to him, save for altering his paternal lineage.Jan 6, 2019, 12:25 PMGreg Hamiltonlol. Does nothing to him.

Because lineage has nothing to do with who you are or cultureJan 6, 2019, 12:37 PMGreg Hamiltonhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289612000529Jan 6, 2019, 12:38 PMGöran DahlIt does, in the sense that it tells you where your paternal ancestor came from. Don’t confuse it with autosomal DNA, which determines your ethnicity.Jan 6, 2019, 12:38 PMGreg HamiltonShow me anywhere in my discussion where I claimed it to be everything and other factors don’t matter ?

You’re correcting or attempting to educate me on things I never said.Jan 6, 2019, 12:40 PMGreg HamiltonI say again. In the absence of other factors a betting man would pick a R1b dominant culture. It’s a solid solid betJan 6, 2019, 12:41 PM