OF COURSE WE CAN PUNISH ILES When did we STOP punishing lies in public? (libel,

OF COURSE WE CAN PUNISH ILES

When did we STOP punishing lies in public? (libel, slander, duel, fights between men?)

How much debate was there over the freedom of speech and press? A great deal. Because the lies of the church did good in the eyes of the founders. Because the press allowed the propagation of the lies upon which the american revolution was founded as well as the rational and moral arguments. But mostly because they couldn’t figure out how to manage it in court. And they felt it less necessary to manage in court because of the physical punishments men laid out upon each other such that it was not NECESSARY to lay out in court.

Now lets look at recent evolutions in knowledge: like empiricism (measurement), and darwinianism (evolution) despite the fact that we had been domesticating animals over 12000 years ago? I mean, its not a very complicated idea. Why did it take so long?

(a) when did we begin to understand the scientific method, and how long did it take us?

(b) when did we solve the major problems of the foundations of mathematics and logic?

(c) when did we discover both econometrics (economics) and statistics?

(d) when and why did we switch from justifiation to criticism in order to advance science?

(e) when and why did the operational revolutoin fail in the early 20th century, despite being ‘discovered’ in every major theoretical discipline? I mean, the entirety of the philosophy of language could have been settled, and a century of nonsense saved, and god knows what else?

I mean, the history of mankind consists of the gradual domestication of the beast man.

ANd while in history education was the primary objective…. ONCE EDUCATION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, THEN THE PRIMARY IMPROVEMENT IS TO ELIMINATE ERROR BIAS, AND DECEIT.

We live in an era where nearly all information is free for the simple cost of investing the time to learn it. The only thing we can do to improve the lot of man, and to prevent regression tot he mean, is to eliminate error, bias, wishful thinking and deceit.

We live in an era where we have suppressed parasitism (violence, theft, commercial fraud) such that financialization and politics are the two primary means of improving our lot, and preventing regression toward the mean.

If we have the methods of testing truthful speech (we do), then there is no reason we cannot do as every generation in history has done: outlaw through law, new methods of crime, that man has discovered.

And what was discovered in the late 1700’s was to advance scripturalism to pseudorationalsim (Rousseau/Kant), and then in the later 1800’s how to advance pseudorationalism to pseudoscience (Marx, boaz, freud), and then in the early 1900’s to distribute the task to many disinformation specialists (the frankfurt school), and then to use mass media to distribute it (socialists), and then to use it to take over the academy, and from there indoctrinate the political system, and the buy offf the polity with debt, producing the upcoming crash to end all crashes.

We have, for most of human history regulated lying and insult (non-truthful criticism) by interpersonal violence and duel. The press was regulated to prevent its abuse. But then the press was ‘de-regulated’ by the american revolution, and the ending of libel, slander, duel, and ‘fighting’. The cheap printing, newspapers, pamphlets, paperback books, movies, telephone, radio, television, and mass media, and now the internet have put distance between liar and victim and allowed the industralization of deception that we call ‘propaganda’ to bathe our people in information which they lack the means of rationally testing if able, and which seduce those whose wants it satisfies.

It is as evil as the invention of abrahamism and ‘the book’ – the similarity of ‘the book’/’the pulpit’, and ‘pseudoscience’ /’the media’ should not be lost on the most dim of us. Where the ancient world involved the saturation of the schools with liars, the present involves the saturation of schools, academy, and the informational environment with liars. Our people are saturated with lies they cannot defend themselves from, and saturated witha liens that they cannot defend themselves from. Meanwhile their families shrink, their civilization dies – and a few simpletons criticize me for putting for a rational means of rather simply making use of our existing legal system to apply the same standards to political speech that we do to commercial: reciprocity.

What the hell makes you think that (a) people won’t cooperate for both good and bad at massive scale, and that people won’t conduct war by disinformation and the suppression of disinformation?

I mean. You can spout an OPINION but what examples in history can you give, of any scale, that have any substance, that mirror even this one sketch that I’ve just written?

I mean, it’s one thing to remain skeptical, and it’s another to hold an opinion that is contrary to all accumulated evidence in all of history for all of mankind…. Jeez….

Color me frustrated with simpletons.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT COMPLICATED. PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT AND STUPID