The principle success in the physical sciences is the publication of many findings that eventually converge (possibility) or diverge (falsehood). We know we cannot intuit the first principles of the universe – although IMHO we are getting close to returning to ‘ether’ lol. But when in matters of biology, sentience, and cooperation, we cannot STOP ourselves from intuiting answers, and as such we attempt to propose conclusions too early. Worse, we cannot even compose tests that do not in and of themselves produce desired answers. We simply do not know how to. So in both the imperceptible physical world, the imperceptible sentient world, and the imperceptible cooperative (social/political/economic) worlds, we are equally blind. The problem is we think we are unequally blind. Anything you intuit that conflicts with the least-cost algorithm of nature is wrong. Nature can’t choose. She does what is cheapest, and what is cheapest is the first available transformation. Apr 18, 2018 1:02pm
Theme: Truth
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NIETZSCHE VS THE STOICS —“Curt: In “Beyond Good and Evil” Nietzsche harshly cr
NIETZSCHE VS THE STOICS
—“Curt: In “Beyond Good and Evil” Nietzsche harshly criticized the stoics and their desire to live according to nature. How do you understand his criticism? do you think it’s an unconditional criticism?”— Ahmed Reda
Nietzsche has the strange german occupation with suffering and striving (armies), (look at medieval german art), whereas the anglos, scandinavians, romans, and greeks(navies) saw the same impulse as achievement and tragedy. ie: as heroic achievement(opportunity) vs heroic endurance (constraint).
So he starts from both a rebellion against Christianity and the German strange preoccupation with suffering (and feces for that matter… damn.).
When Nietzsche has his ‘aha’ moment, studying the Greek Tragedies, and rediscovers that these plays are our equivalent of ‘Church’, he uses the language and ideas available to him to try to restore the Greek (Germanic-Pagan, European Aryan, West Indo European ) presumption that men can join the gods through their heroic deeds, and seek not to please them but at best to mollify them (‘get them out of the way’).
Unfortunately, German philosophy being the conflationary, secular-theological, literary bloviation (bullsh-t) that it is, he does his best with the (limited) rhetorical tools at his intellectual disposal. (Had Rousseau and Kant not struggled so hard to
But, does he tell you how to think and act differently? Or is he simply engaging in sentiment, critique and parable? The latter. Hence why Nietzsche is open to interpretation not imitation.
Now, conversely, the Stoics tell you to live in harmony with nature, but they also **tell you the program of how to learn to do so.***
So we have three components to deal with.
One is …
(a) the set of EXCELLENCES to strive (train) for on the SPECTRUM of CLASS POSSIBILITIES, and the other is …
(b) the METHOD of training yourself (offense) and others, and the last is …
(c) the MINDFULNESS (defense) we obtain from that training.
Aristocracy…………..Middle Class…………Lower Class
Strong……………………….Able…………………..Weak……
Excellence ———— Utility ———–Defenses
Heroic ………………….. Virtuous ………………”Good”..
1 – The Aristocracy obtains defense from conventional morality.
2 – The Middle classes obtain defense from criticism and envy.
3 – The Lower classes obtain defense from position and powerlessness.
So when I recommend Nietzsche it’s largely his “Birth of Tragedy” so that you understand WHAT it is we seek to accomplish by restoring the TRIPARTISM (class cooperation) of the Western Indo Europeans, the Germanics, and the Greco-Romans, … in order to RESCUE us from the MONOPOLY (equality) of the Syrians (Byzantines > Christians > Jews > Babylonians ).
And when I recommend the Stoics (and when I say that the germanic libertarians are trying to unconsciously reconstruct the Stoic Program), I am referring to the METHOD of training that today we call (and Peterson calls) Self-Authoring.
So in my understanding the stoic program is scientific, rational, secular, and simply a form of mental fitness. ANd we can choose our virtues from those of the Aristocracy, Middle Classes, and Lower Classes as needed.
But as far as I can determine it is no longer necessary to rely on supernatural myth (religion), literary parable (mythology), or verbal justificationism (germanic conflationary rationalism), or literary counter-historicism, counter-empiricism, and counter-rationalism (french postmodernism), or the counter-darwinian pseudosciences (ashkenazi pseudoscience of marx, Boas, Freud, Adorno), or the anglo numerology (Keynesian Economics and Rawlsian ethics).
And instead we can simply teach people to select the appropriate virtues (for one’s temperaments, abilities or goals), practice self authoring rituals, and obtain the mindfulness (defense from competing suggestion, approval, and disapproval), and organize by natural law (reciprocity) using a strictly constructed constitution, and the common law of tort, under universal standing. And we can engage in whatever hero worship (archetypal imitation) that we want to given the vast inventory of heroes of all classes we can draw from (historical ‘paganism’ or ancestor worship).
And we can create all the festivals and sports we want to celebrate each – in a market for our heroes.
The only monopoly that exists in that world is the monopoly of Truth in the Testimonial and therefore Scientific sense, and Reciprocity in the juridical sense.
ALl monopolies are bad. That said, one must produce markets that provide forums for all but monopolies.
We are only equal in poverty.
Otherwise we are unequal in markets.
As such we may only cooperate on means, despite our inequalities, and disparate ends.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine.
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-18 16:00:00 UTC
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ASYMMETRY IN OUR CONFIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY The principle success in the
ASYMMETRY IN OUR CONFIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY
The principle success in the physical sciences is the publication of many findings that eventually converge (possibility) or diverge (falsehood).
We know we cannot intuit the first principles of the universe – although IMHO we are getting close to returning to ‘ether’ lol.
But when in matters of biology, sentience, and cooperation, we cannot STOP ourselves from intuiting answers, and as such we attempt to propose conclusions too early.
Worse, we cannot even compose tests that do not in and of themselves produce desired answers. We simply do not know how to.
So in both the imperceptible physical world, the imperceptible sentient world, and the imperceptible cooperative (social/political/economic) worlds, we are equally blind.
The problem is we think we are unequally blind.
Anything you intuit that conflicts with the least-cost algorithm of nature is wrong.
Nature can’t choose. She does what is cheapest, and what is cheapest is the first available transformation.
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-18 13:02:00 UTC
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VERISIMILITUDE AND CONVERGENCE ON THE TRUTH If you conduct your research with th
VERISIMILITUDE AND CONVERGENCE ON THE TRUTH
If you conduct your research with the scientific method, then you will simply attempt to falsify everything until no matter what you do you start producing increasingly similar answers. When you cannot find a way to come to a dissimilar answer then you have either converged on the truth, or some approximation of it given the knowledge, logic, and tools available to us at the time
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-18 12:57:00 UTC
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CREATING NEW UNDERSTANDING IS VERY HARD, DISCIPLINED, TIME CONSUMING WORK. It ta
CREATING NEW UNDERSTANDING IS VERY HARD, DISCIPLINED, TIME CONSUMING WORK.
It takes an extraordinary long time to simplify a very complex set of ideas into a language consisting of a sufficiently small set of general rules, that they can be taught within the ability, patience, and incentives available to the audience.
(this shit I do is f’king hard, which is why it takes so long. I have become much much better at communicating these ideas over time, and that’s because I work, much, much, harder with more discipline with lower tolerance for error, than anyone else I have know, and the only other person I really can commiserate with is Kant – and he was wrong – even if I identify with Hayek [information] in nearly everything. Hume and Smith were innovative and insightful but they lacked legal rigour. As far as I know it takes nine to ten years of research on an innovation to develop marginally indifferent ability in any discipline. I knew that going in. And I knew I was slower that most. But sometimes I wake up from my work and look back and realize that no sane person would do this kind of thing without a cognitive bias to work endlessly [hyper orderliness], and in pursuit of a solution to a problem [threat] that’s pervasive [cultural or civilizational]. )
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-18 10:09:00 UTC
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All Critique Is “Lying” – and Here Is Why
( very important piece ) ( propertarianism core ) 1 – Either we are engaged in productive, fully informed(truthful), warrantied (skin in the game), voluntary transfers (exchanges), free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated investments of others (externalities), or we are not. 2 – Every forced transfer is a lost opportunity for exchange – even if an exchange of good, for norm (behavior). 3 – In other words, all demands for goods independent of exchange are simply use of threats of disassociation (boycott) as a means of extraction (rent seeking). IGNORANCE IS NOT EXCUSE FOR FAILURES OF DUE DILIGENCE The fact that one has habituated a means of deception (continental conflationary philosophy and literature) rather than habituated a means of transparency (anglo analytic deflation – ie: science and law) and therefore argues for the profoundly dishonest and immoral out of cultural habit, has nothing to do with whether one INTENDS to argue immorally – it just means one’s CULTURE is endemically immoral. Which is just an argument to ignorance. It doesn’t absolve you from the failure of due diligence for the consequences of your display, speech, or action. Reciprocity (morality) requires one do nothing (by display, word, or deed) that one cannot perform restitution for – else one is externalizing risk upon others (conducting a theft). And some costs are impossible to perform restitution for. For example, what has been the cost of the pseudosciences and pseudo-rationalisms and pseudo-histories, of the French (Derrida, Rorty, et all) and Ashkenazi (Marx, Boas, Freud, Cantor, Adorno (et all), Mises, Rothbard, Leo Strauss) – all failures of due diligence against the immorality of their habits (cultural assumptions and argumentative grammar)? If you cannot make an operational argument in economics and politics ( that means a procedural model) that tests your theory then you do not know of what you speak. These people made Rousseauian (false) assumptions of human nature, and economic possibility – most notably because Rousseau was a profoundly immoral (irreciprocal) man, and the entirety of the french and ashkenazi, and some of the german intelligentsia, produce a reactionary movement misrepresented as ‘the enlightenment’, as always do people of armies, or of diaspora, seeking ‘liberty’ and thereby lacking the ‘sovereignty’ of the scandinavian sea-farers. They attempted to return the church’s demands upon others (appeals to the common good) counter to the british (anglo empirical) intellectual revolution (markets in everything.) In law, (conflict resolution by tests of reciprocity), and in war (conflcit prevention by tests of reciprocity), we do not make excuses for ignorance – ignorance and indiscipline (failure of due diligence) are just means of reducing costs and externalizing risk upon others. That is what these people did. They were liberated (no thanks to them) by the atlantic transport, agrarian, and industrial revolutions and made arguments that they were ‘kept down’, and politically liberated, rather than that they *sexual, social, and political market value*, and that with increased productivity they could not consume vastly more of everything, and create a little market value despite their lower previous market value. GRAMMARS OF TRUTH AND DECEIT Argument in the broadest sense (colloquial persuasion) is a technology like any other, consisting of a hierarchy of grammars (rules of continuous disambiguation covering the spectrum from sounds through sentences), from the intuitionistic logics through mathematics, physics, contract, testimony, fiction, and the fictionalisms (‘mythologies) through the deceits. Those grammars are either deflationary, commensurable, and testable, or they are not – and instead, like all fictions, operate by suggestion using selection, obscurantism, loading, framing, overloading. And they all make use of the trust (free association) we place in one another when listening (opening ourselves to suggestion for the purpose of communication). So one can create or criticize a model in deflationary prose, or one can create or criticize a fictionalism in conflationary (selected, obscurant, loaded, framed, overloaded) prose. That technique we call ‘critique’ is simply the modern version of ‘pilpul’ (Religious interpretation, numerology, astrology) which seeks to criticize (straw man) some solution without creating a testable model open to transparent comprehension, and thereby taking advantage of the fact that in that overloaded state you will (the human mind must) appeal to intuition by free association. In other words, you will substitute whatever you think and feel, thereby creating a sense of agreement on critique without agreement on MODEL (actions, reciprocity, and consequences.) That is a very techichical means of saying that ALL CRITIQUE IS LYING BY SUGGESTION. Either you can propose a complete alternative model or you can’t. (Think on that one a bit and be justifiably horrified.) ALL CRITIQUE IS LYING Critique is simply the technology invented in the Levant for the purpose of ‘selling’ the monotheisms to the underclasses as a revolt against the great civilizations of the ancient world – but this time in pseudo-scientific (ashkenazi marxist) and pseudo-rational (french post modern ) prose. We are all gene machines. Hence why the language of science(due diligence), and natural law (reciprocity) are so important to speech, and why literature and literary argument are always and everywhere – like most of intellectual history – attempts at some form of fraud. Cheers Curt Doolittle Apr 17, 2018 9:58am
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All Critique Is “Lying” – and Here Is Why
( very important piece ) ( propertarianism core ) 1 – Either we are engaged in productive, fully informed(truthful), warrantied (skin in the game), voluntary transfers (exchanges), free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated investments of others (externalities), or we are not. 2 – Every forced transfer is a lost opportunity for exchange – even if an exchange of good, for norm (behavior). 3 – In other words, all demands for goods independent of exchange are simply use of threats of disassociation (boycott) as a means of extraction (rent seeking). IGNORANCE IS NOT EXCUSE FOR FAILURES OF DUE DILIGENCE The fact that one has habituated a means of deception (continental conflationary philosophy and literature) rather than habituated a means of transparency (anglo analytic deflation – ie: science and law) and therefore argues for the profoundly dishonest and immoral out of cultural habit, has nothing to do with whether one INTENDS to argue immorally – it just means one’s CULTURE is endemically immoral. Which is just an argument to ignorance. It doesn’t absolve you from the failure of due diligence for the consequences of your display, speech, or action. Reciprocity (morality) requires one do nothing (by display, word, or deed) that one cannot perform restitution for – else one is externalizing risk upon others (conducting a theft). And some costs are impossible to perform restitution for. For example, what has been the cost of the pseudosciences and pseudo-rationalisms and pseudo-histories, of the French (Derrida, Rorty, et all) and Ashkenazi (Marx, Boas, Freud, Cantor, Adorno (et all), Mises, Rothbard, Leo Strauss) – all failures of due diligence against the immorality of their habits (cultural assumptions and argumentative grammar)? If you cannot make an operational argument in economics and politics ( that means a procedural model) that tests your theory then you do not know of what you speak. These people made Rousseauian (false) assumptions of human nature, and economic possibility – most notably because Rousseau was a profoundly immoral (irreciprocal) man, and the entirety of the french and ashkenazi, and some of the german intelligentsia, produce a reactionary movement misrepresented as ‘the enlightenment’, as always do people of armies, or of diaspora, seeking ‘liberty’ and thereby lacking the ‘sovereignty’ of the scandinavian sea-farers. They attempted to return the church’s demands upon others (appeals to the common good) counter to the british (anglo empirical) intellectual revolution (markets in everything.) In law, (conflict resolution by tests of reciprocity), and in war (conflcit prevention by tests of reciprocity), we do not make excuses for ignorance – ignorance and indiscipline (failure of due diligence) are just means of reducing costs and externalizing risk upon others. That is what these people did. They were liberated (no thanks to them) by the atlantic transport, agrarian, and industrial revolutions and made arguments that they were ‘kept down’, and politically liberated, rather than that they *sexual, social, and political market value*, and that with increased productivity they could not consume vastly more of everything, and create a little market value despite their lower previous market value. GRAMMARS OF TRUTH AND DECEIT Argument in the broadest sense (colloquial persuasion) is a technology like any other, consisting of a hierarchy of grammars (rules of continuous disambiguation covering the spectrum from sounds through sentences), from the intuitionistic logics through mathematics, physics, contract, testimony, fiction, and the fictionalisms (‘mythologies) through the deceits. Those grammars are either deflationary, commensurable, and testable, or they are not – and instead, like all fictions, operate by suggestion using selection, obscurantism, loading, framing, overloading. And they all make use of the trust (free association) we place in one another when listening (opening ourselves to suggestion for the purpose of communication). So one can create or criticize a model in deflationary prose, or one can create or criticize a fictionalism in conflationary (selected, obscurant, loaded, framed, overloaded) prose. That technique we call ‘critique’ is simply the modern version of ‘pilpul’ (Religious interpretation, numerology, astrology) which seeks to criticize (straw man) some solution without creating a testable model open to transparent comprehension, and thereby taking advantage of the fact that in that overloaded state you will (the human mind must) appeal to intuition by free association. In other words, you will substitute whatever you think and feel, thereby creating a sense of agreement on critique without agreement on MODEL (actions, reciprocity, and consequences.) That is a very techichical means of saying that ALL CRITIQUE IS LYING BY SUGGESTION. Either you can propose a complete alternative model or you can’t. (Think on that one a bit and be justifiably horrified.) ALL CRITIQUE IS LYING Critique is simply the technology invented in the Levant for the purpose of ‘selling’ the monotheisms to the underclasses as a revolt against the great civilizations of the ancient world – but this time in pseudo-scientific (ashkenazi marxist) and pseudo-rational (french post modern ) prose. We are all gene machines. Hence why the language of science(due diligence), and natural law (reciprocity) are so important to speech, and why literature and literary argument are always and everywhere – like most of intellectual history – attempts at some form of fraud. Cheers Curt Doolittle Apr 17, 2018 9:58am
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Provide the Necessary Services of Religions in A Manner Not Constituted by Lies
(a) as ability declines demand for intuitionistic fictions increases, and conversely as ability increases demand for rationally decidable criteria increases. Meaning those of lesser ability require we appeal to intuitions, and those of greater ability require we appeal to reason. This is because those of lower ability have not been sufficiently domesticated (produced agency) by those of greater ability. (b) literary analogy using archetypes and archetypal story lines (we can list both archetypes and story lines) can be decomposed into rational terms and tested. Literary analogy allows loading and framing so that individuals can learn by intuition rather than reason (ie: by suggestion). But if we cannot decompose these analogies to scientific statements we do not know if they are false, or harmful or ‘evil’ as abrahamism has been. (d) people require a means of calculating (reasoning, thinking) in the broadest sense, and the most simple units of measure are anthropological. In the absence of tribal feedback they need what we call mindfulness but is better thought of a means of selecting and ignoring impulses (some of us call this agency). and in the absence of tribal community and dependence we need festivals and feasts. And to establish the limits we need an oath. All civilizations address this spectrum of mindfulness to oath, to feast, to festival to compensate for the competition produced by production, and the hierarchy that evolves form that division of knowledge, labor, and advocacy involved in the production of private, commercial, and public goods. This is because too few of us are evolved enough to survive without institutions that provide help to our remaining animal intuitions. We teach certain skills but what we do not teach is ‘sacredness of the commons’ that churches did, and we do not teach mindfulness or norms in a rational fashion. Religion is dying everywhere. ANd it is being replaced with things that are almost as bad. The question is how we provide the necessary services of religions in a manner not constituted by lies that do not decompose in to scientifically testable, and therefore indisputable prose.
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Provide the Necessary Services of Religions in A Manner Not Constituted by Lies
(a) as ability declines demand for intuitionistic fictions increases, and conversely as ability increases demand for rationally decidable criteria increases. Meaning those of lesser ability require we appeal to intuitions, and those of greater ability require we appeal to reason. This is because those of lower ability have not been sufficiently domesticated (produced agency) by those of greater ability. (b) literary analogy using archetypes and archetypal story lines (we can list both archetypes and story lines) can be decomposed into rational terms and tested. Literary analogy allows loading and framing so that individuals can learn by intuition rather than reason (ie: by suggestion). But if we cannot decompose these analogies to scientific statements we do not know if they are false, or harmful or ‘evil’ as abrahamism has been. (d) people require a means of calculating (reasoning, thinking) in the broadest sense, and the most simple units of measure are anthropological. In the absence of tribal feedback they need what we call mindfulness but is better thought of a means of selecting and ignoring impulses (some of us call this agency). and in the absence of tribal community and dependence we need festivals and feasts. And to establish the limits we need an oath. All civilizations address this spectrum of mindfulness to oath, to feast, to festival to compensate for the competition produced by production, and the hierarchy that evolves form that division of knowledge, labor, and advocacy involved in the production of private, commercial, and public goods. This is because too few of us are evolved enough to survive without institutions that provide help to our remaining animal intuitions. We teach certain skills but what we do not teach is ‘sacredness of the commons’ that churches did, and we do not teach mindfulness or norms in a rational fashion. Religion is dying everywhere. ANd it is being replaced with things that are almost as bad. The question is how we provide the necessary services of religions in a manner not constituted by lies that do not decompose in to scientifically testable, and therefore indisputable prose.
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THE MIRROR AND RECIPROCITY (important post) (propertarian core) —“So any criti
THE MIRROR AND RECIPROCITY
(important post) (propertarian core)
—“So any criticism leveled at another group only serves to illuminate our own failure to perform successfully in intra-group competition.”— Bill Joslin
( CD: Or as I have been saying “The problem is in the mirror.”)
by Bill Joslin
Group Identity, being a common-property shared by group members, when redefined by another group (for example: whiteness, or inferior races) commits a vandalous act – damages that property.
(correct)
To maintain a condition of boycott, those under attack must abandon the property to the vandals (thieves) – if not, then the only alternative is to double-down to defend it – which then devolves into retaliatory vandalism… (at least unless escalated to political, economic, or military conflict.)
So the stance I’ve heard you take on racism, which has a short list of justifications [we have crap people in our group also; any group can advance; etc.] I think has a deeper operational and moral footing”
i.e. reciprocity between groups, as it pertains to identity, isn’t possible – to go there violates our own law of reciprocity.
And near-group breeding and cooperation might present the limit at which intra-group reciprocity can occur within domains of identity – some common ground- some exchange which doesn’t result in erosion of damages to identity.
So any criticism leveled at another group only illuminates our own failure to perform within intra-group competition.
Focussing on fixing our failures preserves integrity to natural law which is the basis of out identity… And prevents retaliation spirals and intertemporal transfer of costs for breaking our law)
Was that coherent?
– Bill Joslin
(CD: Yes, bill that was about as coherent as it can be stated. 😉 )
Source date (UTC): 2018-04-17 11:06:00 UTC