Theme: Truth

  • I normally wouldn’t respond to this but here: 1) make a list of why you think it

    I normally wouldn’t respond to this but here:
    1) make a list of why you think it’s better your way
    2) make a list of what the opposition thinks is better their way

    Given that neither of these extremes is optimum, what is the midpoint for starting negotiations that is likely to…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-07 18:31:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721958518507335830

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  • RT @LukeWeinhagen: When nothing can be trusted, the value of lying to exploit tr

    RT @LukeWeinhagen: When nothing can be trusted, the value of lying to exploit trust craters.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-06 19:42:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721613946950410572

  • No educated adult would ask the question “do you have proof”. Instead you would

    No educated adult would ask the question “do you have proof”. Instead you would say what evidence do you reliy upon?

    Here is the quick reference card.
    https://twitter.com/WalterIII/status/1721260058397544470


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-05 21:43:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721282197112426755

    Reply addressees: @BitterTonic @RoseAndGarden

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  • It’s a dirty janitorial job, cleaning the informational commons, and fit only fo

    It’s a dirty janitorial job, cleaning the informational commons, and fit only for an outlier, but someone’s gotta do it. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-05 20:40:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721266325396304172

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  • “I genuinely believe that if you can’t explain a concept simply, you don’t under

    –“I genuinely believe that if you can’t explain a concept simply, you don’t understand it.”–

    I can explain almost everything simply but can you understand the application and consequences of that simplicity?

    So like mathematics the correct statement is that if you can’t reduce it to first principles in parsimonious unambiguous language then you don’t understand it. That doesn’t mean the general audience will.

    So, your argument true if and only if the concepts are available to the audience such that they can grasp the connection between set A and Set B. In my experience this often requires quite a bit of training.

    And I suspect the most important application of that principle is if the question is ethical (interpersonal) or moral (social, economic, or political) when most of us CAN understand that subject matter even if it takes some effort and examples to make any given point.

    Conversely, if I tell you that the universe at every scale follows only one principle and that’s the release of pressure by spatial expansion or concentration by evolutionary computation of persistence of stable relations by discovery of opportunities for organization. Great. If I explain the thirty or so laws that emerge as complexity increases, and then the relation between language and those rules and complexities, and that langauge follows the same rules for the same reason – and so do our thoughts, without a lot of examples that’s very difficult to comprehend and apply.

    So yes we can explain complex things in simple terms (calculus being my favorite example) but it doesn’t inform the audience at all ,and while it may stick as awareness of something, it doesn’t stick with them as undersetanding of something.

    Furthermore, to make it far worse, when we simplify any statement we and opportuity for ambiguity. Grammar means ‘rules of continuous recursive disambiguation for the purpose of elminating ambiguity upon which we can agree or disagree’ then simplification that adds ambiguity is effectively ‘disinforming’ people which is effectively lying – and givng them opportunit to deduce and induce falsehoods while claiming they’re dependent upon your argument.

    It is true for example that we can explain all known laws of the physical universe in an equation that’s about four lines long. But no one can understand it without the work to undersetand it which is — vast to say the least.

    It’s true that we can convert the parsimony of those symbols to ordinary language. But again, does that convey the meaning.

    What we observe is that without doing the math yourself you don’t really understand the meaning.

    So I end up with this problem all the time. If I write something simple (like this reply) and I write something dense in operational language (the equivalent of the math of supply and demand across incommensurable references) and I do not write it unambiguously (the reason for mathematical symbolism) then is the meaning present in what I write? No.

    This means we have to teach people to understand what they don’t when the distance between their existing frames and the new frame is greater than they have the intuitions to bridge.

    I understand relativity just fine but I also understand mathematics much more deply than all but a few mathematicians (and physicists). And so it is clear to me why Einstein’s equations do not mirror reality at small and large sale – because he did not understand either the constitution and limits of mathematics or the consequences of claiming mathematical measurements were entities (space and time).

    If the average person still does not comprehend darwin despitethe simplicity of darwin then what does that mean?

    If the most sophisticated philosophers cannot undrestand the grammatical error that is the liar’s paradox – nor can they define truth nor the scientiic method – both of which some of us can define unambiguously, what does that say about the problem of simplicity even of our most complex ideas today?

    Anyway. Food for your thought and others.

    BTW: I found this post by the new Twitter-X feature of “See Similar Posts” without which I might never have come across your other fine posts.

    Affections
    Cheers

    Curt Doolittle
    The Natural Law Institute
    The Science of Cooperation

    Reply addressees: @EdLatimore


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 22:04:04 UTC

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  • Parrhesia Of course not. Though you are demonstrating a great example of NAXALT/

    Parrhesia
    Of course not.
    Though you are demonstrating a great example of NAXALT/AXALT which is to personalize the impersonal. Or more technically, to treat a general statemetn made by the systematizing mind of men, which always presumes a distribution (not an equality) as a universal (equality).
    We know (neurologically, biologically) why women demonstrate this defense mechanism. We just aren’t sure how to educate women to apply that mechanism only to interpersonal instead of social, economic, and political domains.

    Reply addressees: @parrhesiatruth @bryanbrey @lporiginalg @DarnelSugarfoo


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 19:32:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720524392491368448

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  • All three paragraphs are true. The question is why you are trying to lie? What c

    All three paragraphs are true.
    The question is why you are trying to lie?
    What causes the cognitively feminine need for social construction of falsehoods sufficient to provide constant reinforcement of falsehoods – when those falsehood are universally evasions of the four sets of laws of the universe?
    1. Physical (scarcity) – The Before States
    2. Behavioral (self interest, demand for reciprocity in cooperation) – The During States
    3. Evolutionary (sexes, classes, races, mutation, load, natural selection) – The After States
    And of course:
    4. The logics by which we express the identity, coherence, correspondence, rational choice, reciprocity, parsimony, completeness within limits, and coherence of our claims – such that we negotiate and cooperate on truth rather than deception.

    What is it the feminine mind (prey response) seeks to evade? (The costs of Responsibility).

    I know why you are trying to lie. It appears to be both instinctual (genetic) and indoctrinated or a selection bias. But do you know why you’re trying to lie? And can you help yourself by learning how to stop lying?

    Reply addressees: @MorctheOrc


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 19:29:28 UTC

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  • I like that framing. Yes. Pursuit of a truth. Nice

    I like that framing. Yes. Pursuit of a truth. Nice.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 17:20:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720491047413760113

    Reply addressees: @Josh_Ebner @Alexanderistalt @seracoate @MillionMustMeme

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720490889112379647

  • ALex, You are not very good at this. 1. As far as we know, all knowledge is the

    ALex,
    You are not very good at this.
    1. As far as we know, all knowledge is the result of experience. And I don’t know of anyone who undersetands the neuroscience in this matter better than I do.
    2. Metaphysical presumptions are only truth if they are consistent and correspondent with physical truths.
    3. Otherwise they are not truths they are biases or preferences.
    4. We discover gradual improvements of our knowledge of pramatic truth toward ideal truth by adversarial competition (observation, listening, discussion, debate, argument, suit, and trial and error) – not by reason alone, or by individual presumption or supernatural cause. But by observation of success and failure.

    Instead, what you mean is that we can construct narratives and try to live inside those narratives to compensate for our lack of knowledge (ignoranc) and ability (competency) and mindfulness (ability to suppress neuroticism) as populations increase, the division of knowledge and labor increases, and we are possessed of less and less knowledge of the world around us, less agency in it, greater dependence upon it, and greater alienation from one another within it – stoking neuroticism that generates demand for such comforting (theraputic) narratives.

    Reply addressees: @AleMartnezR1


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 17:08:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720488219198775296

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  • RT @curtdoolittle: @Alexanderistalt @seracoate @MillionMustMeme PERFORMATIVE TRU

    RT @curtdoolittle: @Alexanderistalt @seracoate @MillionMustMeme PERFORMATIVE TRUTH VS IDEAL TRUTH
    Performative (Real) Truth can and must on…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-11-03 17:01:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720486467913293939