—“There is no point in arguing with someone with a closed mind”— Anon The problem is knowing when you are asking for an open mind : meaning “time to consider the argument”, and asking someone to agree, believe, or express faith in that which is not an argument but a fraud. The only non-fraudulent version of that statement is: –“there is no point in arguing with someone who is intellectually dishonest”– Appeals for an ‘open mind’ are always frauds. ALWAYS. Either you have an argument or you don’t. Either the you AND the other person(s) are intellectually honest or you are not.
Theme: Truth
-
Gods? Guilty as Charged
(edited for clarity) In the matter of gods we have only the testimony of men, and the means, motive, and opportunity to lie in their testimony. Given means motive and opportunity to lie, and no evidence of all that they speak the truth, then all gods are merely fictional characters. Those characters serve as anthropomorphic analogies. Those analogies serve as to provide decidability when we have no other means of deciding. It is not that gods – like all units of measurement – are not useful. They are. Particularly for the intergenerational transfer of such units of measurement. But there is no difference between Gandalf and Jehova and Allah other than that we make no false testimony to the existence of Gandalf, and we give false testimony to the existence of Jehova and Allah. We must give false testimony because we cannot give testimony of any other kind. It is not possible. None of us have observed the existence of any god that cannot be explained by more simple means. We can however, give thanks to our ancestors. That is because we have ancestors worthy of our thanks. The reason for the fabrication of Jehova and Allah is that the people who invented those fictional characters had no ancestors worthy of their thanks. Means, Motive, and Opportunity. Guilty as Charged.
-
Gods? Guilty as Charged
(edited for clarity) In the matter of gods we have only the testimony of men, and the means, motive, and opportunity to lie in their testimony. Given means motive and opportunity to lie, and no evidence of all that they speak the truth, then all gods are merely fictional characters. Those characters serve as anthropomorphic analogies. Those analogies serve as to provide decidability when we have no other means of deciding. It is not that gods – like all units of measurement – are not useful. They are. Particularly for the intergenerational transfer of such units of measurement. But there is no difference between Gandalf and Jehova and Allah other than that we make no false testimony to the existence of Gandalf, and we give false testimony to the existence of Jehova and Allah. We must give false testimony because we cannot give testimony of any other kind. It is not possible. None of us have observed the existence of any god that cannot be explained by more simple means. We can however, give thanks to our ancestors. That is because we have ancestors worthy of our thanks. The reason for the fabrication of Jehova and Allah is that the people who invented those fictional characters had no ancestors worthy of their thanks. Means, Motive, and Opportunity. Guilty as Charged.
-
Curt Doolittle updated his status. THERE IS ONLY ONE MOST PARSIMONIOUS DESCRIPTI
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
THERE IS ONLY ONE MOST PARSIMONIOUS DESCRIPTION AND ONLY MEN ARE WILLING TO SPEAK IT
There are an infinite number of fictions we can fabricate. There is only one most parsimonious description.
As far as I know a god is a fictional character. A demigod is a fictional character. A hero is a fictional character. And archetypal measurements are the easiest for man to employ.
I leave Pilpul, Critique and the Fictionalisms for Women and Abrahamists. Truth is the weapon of men for a reason, and lies the weapon of those who are not men for a reason.
Men Truth, Duty, Sovereignty, Reciprocity, and Markets of Meritocracy.
All else is for those who are not men, but animal.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 14:31:56 UTC
-
I leave Pilpul and Critique and the FIctionalisms for Women and Abrahamists. Tru
I leave Pilpul and Critique and the FIctionalisms for Women and Abrahamists. Truth is the weapon of men for a reason, and lies the weapon of those who are not men for a reason.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 14:30:18 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014516758550544386
Reply addressees: @WytWlkrBronn
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014511953119711233
IN REPLY TO:
Original post on X
Original tweet unavailable — we could not load the text of the post this reply is addressing on X. That usually means the tweet was deleted, the account is protected, or X does not expose it to the account used for archiving. The Original post link below may still open if you view it in X while signed in.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014511953119711233
-
There are an infinite number of fictions we can fabricate. There is only one mos
There are an infinite number of fictions we can fabricate. There is only one most parsimonious description. As far as I know a god is a fictional character. A demigod is a fictional character. A hero is a fictional character. And archetypal measurements are the easiest for man.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 14:28:53 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014516402194087936
Reply addressees: @WytWlkrBronn
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014511953119711233
IN REPLY TO:
Original post on X
Original tweet unavailable — we could not load the text of the post this reply is addressing on X. That usually means the tweet was deleted, the account is protected, or X does not expose it to the account used for archiving. The Original post link below may still open if you view it in X while signed in.
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1014511953119711233
-
Curt Doolittle updated his status. GODS? GUILTY AS CHARGED (edited for clarity)
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
GODS? GUILTY AS CHARGED
(edited for clarity)
In the matter of gods we have only the testimony of men, and the means, motive, and opportunity to lie in their testimony. Given means motive and opportunity to lie, and no evidence of all that they speak the truth, then all gods are merely fictional characters. Those characters serve as anthropomorphic analogies. Those analogies serve as to provide decidability when we have no other means of deciding.
It is not that gods – like all units of measurement – are not useful. They are. Particularly for the intergenerational transfer of such units of measurement.
But there is no difference between Gandalf and Jehova and Allah other than that we make no false testimony to the existence of Gandalf, and we give false testimony to the existence of Jehova and Allah. We must give false testimony because we cannot give testimony of any other kind. It is not possible. None of us have observed the existence of any god that cannot be explained by more simple means.
We can however, give thanks to our ancestors. That is because we have ancestors worthy of our thanks. The reason for the fabrication of Jehova and Allah is that the people who invented those fictional characters had no ancestors worthy of their thanks.
Means, Motive, and Opportunity.
Guilty as Charged.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 14:01:57 UTC
-
Curt Doolittle updated his status. THE FRAUD OF “AN OPEN MIND” —“There is no p
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
THE FRAUD OF “AN OPEN MIND”
—“There is no point in arguing with someone with a closed mind”— Anon
The problem is knowing when you are asking for an open mind : meaning “time to consider the argument”, and asking someone to agree, believe, or express faith in that which is not an argument but a fraud.
The only non-fraudulent version of that statement is:
–“there is no point in arguing with someone who is intellectually dishonest”–
Appeals for an ‘open mind’ are always frauds. ALWAYS. Either you have an argument or you don’t. Either the you AND the other person(s) are intellectually honest or you are not.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 13:48:18 UTC
-
THERE IS ONLY ONE MOST PARSIMONIOUS DESCRIPTION AND ONLY MEN ARE WILLING TO SPEA
THERE IS ONLY ONE MOST PARSIMONIOUS DESCRIPTION AND ONLY MEN ARE WILLING TO SPEAK IT
There are an infinite number of fictions we can fabricate. There is only one most parsimonious description.
As far as I know a god is a fictional character. A demigod is a fictional character. A hero is a fictional character. And archetypal measurements are the easiest for man to employ.
I leave Pilpul, Critique and the Fictionalisms for Women and Abrahamists. Truth is the weapon of men for a reason, and lies the weapon of those who are not men for a reason.
Men Truth, Duty, Sovereignty, Reciprocity, and Markets of Meritocracy.
All else is for those who are not men, but animal.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 10:31:00 UTC
-
GODS? GUILTY AS CHARGED (edited for clarity) In the matter of gods we have only
GODS? GUILTY AS CHARGED
(edited for clarity)
In the matter of gods we have only the testimony of men, and the means, motive, and opportunity to lie in their testimony. Given means motive and opportunity to lie, and no evidence of all that they speak the truth, then all gods are merely fictional characters. Those characters serve as anthropomorphic analogies. Those analogies serve as to provide decidability when we have no other means of deciding.
It is not that gods – like all units of measurement – are not useful. They are. Particularly for the intergenerational transfer of such units of measurement.
But there is no difference between Gandalf and Jehova and Allah other than that we make no false testimony to the existence of Gandalf, and we give false testimony to the existence of Jehova and Allah. We must give false testimony because we cannot give testimony of any other kind. It is not possible. None of us have observed the existence of any god that cannot be explained by more simple means.
We can however, give thanks to our ancestors. That is because we have ancestors worthy of our thanks. The reason for the fabrication of Jehova and Allah is that the people who invented those fictional characters had no ancestors worthy of their thanks.
Means, Motive, and Opportunity.
Guilty as Charged.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-04 10:01:00 UTC