Someone forgot the label:
“Intellectual Honesty Required.”
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 22:20:11 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1099796158145224705
Someone forgot the label:
“Intellectual Honesty Required.”
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 22:20:11 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1099796158145224705
ECONOMICS OF TRUTH VS LIES, BULLSH-T, AND GSRRM
—“Substantive criticisms are good… Bullsh-t criticisms just impose a tax on everyone’s time to prevent damage to the informational commons, and the brand.”—Bill Joslin
Lies are cheap. Bullsh-t is cheap. GSRRM is cheap.
That’s the whole problem. That’s why free speech doesn’t work. It’s because truth is so much more expensive than lies, bullsh-t, and grrm – and dismissal is cheaper than learning.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 18:29:00 UTC
Someone forgot the label:
“Intellectual Honesty Required.”
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 17:19:00 UTC
NAILING THE CHRISTIAN QUESTION
—Curt Doolittle you nailed the Christian question for me. I try to imitate Christ as best I can, and believe it as “true”…in the sense of a way to live, an archetypal truth and not necessarily the literal kind. It doesn’t matter to me whether it all literally happened, I have no way of knowing that.”—Zach Matto
Which is the optimum interpretation.
It is hard to be a better ‘average person’ than by imitating ‘christ’. I suspect there is none better.
You will be a better person doing so than any other character you might imitate. Because it is the optimum prisoner’s dilemma strategy for every single human as well as for any human group. That’s just science.
But if it must be ‘true under law’ instead of an archetypal optimum (perfection really) then we cannot end the people who destroy our people.
I sort of look at it this way: demandit it to be true is demanding others to do for you what you want.
Demanding it to be the optimum means of conducting your own life is demanding you do for others.
This is my understanding of Christianity:
0) the life of piety: all life is sacred until proven otherwise.
1) the eradication of hatred from the human heart.
2) the extension of kinship love to non-kin.
3) the demand for personal acts of charity and personal cost, 4) the extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment, enserfment, enslavement, death, or war.
My ‘ask’ is to limit this charity to ingroups in order to prevent virtue signaling by failing to take care of those neighbors you look down upon.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 13:47:00 UTC
(from elsewhere)
—…it is very hard for much of the world, and in particular the muslim world, to grasp the function of ‘heroism’ and ‘truth before face’. It is contra-ethical to their intuition. It is however what makes us adapt and innovate thru continuous competition – and them not.—CD
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 12:55:00 UTC
CULT (Religion) VERSUS CULT-LIKE (devotion)
Curt Doolittle:
Well. I mean, you’re saying I’m a cult leader and the work is religious. I am saying I would like to see if it is possible to produce the equivalent of a cult – but of the law. To some degree the law already is a secular priesthood.
So in essence I am agreeing with you – by analogy.
Heather Joi:
[GSRM DELETED]
So what you’re saying is…..
… that you acknowledge that you are: (in your own words)
“searching for a religion of the law”
“produce the equivalent of a cult – but of the law.”
”a secular priesthood.”
Curt Doolittle:
Well, I’ll just say that you forced me to look at the question from your perspective, and from your perspective, I agreed.
What I’d assumed you’d meant was that the law was nonsense, and that I am positioning myself as some sort of leader rather than a teacher of leaders who will be the antithesis of the frankfurt school’s defeat of our people.
(So if you call the frankfurt school a cult then we are talking the same language. if not then we are not.)
But you are right, I am trying to to build a law, and if possible develop a secular occupation of ‘cult like devotion’, wherein the law is sacred (inviolable regardless of self interest.)
I think I am pretty clear that I”m trying to separately find a way to convert our set of religions back to something european rather than semitic, and that’s the ‘cult’ (religion) I am looking to produce.
So if you think I’m being dishonest, I’m just looking for the truth and your general argument helped me do so. And as I have defined it I don’t disagree.
Cult (reform our religion) vs Cult-like (Sacredness of the law). ANd I agree with both. I just don’t CONFLATE THEM in order to lie.
So in this sense yes I want to produce a cult (religion without priests) and cult like occupation (secular priesthood of the law).
(And yes I do understand that you tried to engage in CONFLATION(AMBIGUATION) and that I (as usual) engaged in DEFLATION(DISAMBIGUATION).)
In other words, you were lying. But within that lie was enough truth that I agree with the truth content.
One is not guilty by word-association. Sorry.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 10:24:00 UTC
Sorry. I slay sacred cows. My own especially. The truth has no mercy. So if you have sacred cows (falsehoods), I will eventually offend you.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-24 03:58:14 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1099518840827006976
Sorry. I slay sacred cows. My own especially. The truth has no mercy. So if you have sacred cows (falsehoods), I will eventually offend you.
Source date (UTC): 2019-02-23 22:57:00 UTC
ON TRUTH (Complete)(core)TRUTH: “TESTIMONY THAT SATISFIES DEMAND FOR INFALLIBILITY”WHERE TRUTH CONSISTS IN THE SERIES
Analytic Truth: The testimony you give promising the internal consistency of one or more statements used in the construction of a proof in an axiomatic(declarative) system. (a Logical Truth).
Ideal Truth: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. (Ideal Truth = Perfect Parsimony.)
Truthfulness: that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, fictionalism, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
Reasonableness: that testimony (description) you give, as justification for your reporting of your belief, justification, preference, coice, or actions with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
Honesty: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
WHERE TRUTHFUL SPEECH
WHERE DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY:
In the OBVERSE: Instead, we should determine if there is a means of choosing without the need for additional information supplied from outside the system (ie: not discretionary).
Or in simple terms, if DISCRETION is necessary the question is undecidable, and if discretion is unnecessary, a proposition is decidable. This separates reason (or calculation in the wider sense) from computation (algorithm). GIVEN The Series:
GIVEN THE HUMAN FACULTIES:
WHERE THE SPEECH IS CONSISTS OF:
WHERE THE CRITERIA FOR TRUTHFUL SPEECH IS: Coherence Across the Dimensions Testifiable by Man, in The Series:
AS A DEFENSE AGAINST THE SERIES:
IN DEFENSE OR ADVOCACY OF: Any transfer of demonstrated interests that is not reciprocal, the tests of: … (a) productive … (b) fully informed, fully accounted … (d) voluntary transfer of demonstrated interests … (e) free of externality of the same criteria … (c) warrantied and within the limits of liability WHERE DEMONSTRATED INTEREST INCLUDES: 1. Existential (or Natural) Interests: Definition:
Existential (or Natural) Interest: Interests that inherent in physical existence. Where;
1. Self: Life, Body, Genes, Memories, Mind, Attention Time, and Action
2. Stimulation, Experience
3. Status and Class (reputation, honor) Self-Image, Status, Reputation Social, Sexual, Economic, Political, and Military Market Value
4. Kin and Interpersonal (Relationship) Interests Mates (access to sex/reproduction), and Marriage Children (genetic reproduction) Consanguineous Relations (family, kin, clan, tribal and national relations)
5. Sustainable Patterns of Association, Cooperation, Insurance, Reproduction, Production, Distribution and Trade Friends, Acquaintances, Neighbors, Cooperative Relations, Commercial Relations, Political Relations, and Military Relations.
Definition:
Obtained Interest: Interests that are obtained by bearing a cost of opportunity, time, effort, resources, to obtain that interest without imposing upon the previously born costs of others. Where; Obtained Interests Include:
6. Several (Personal) Interests Personal property: “Things an individual has a Monopoly Of Control over the use of.” Physical Body and Several Property: Those things we claim a monopoly of control over.
7. Shareholder (Fractional) Interests Shares in property: Recorded And Quantified Shareholder Property (claims for partial ownership)
8. Title Interests (Weights and Measures) Trademarks and Brands (prohibitions on fraudulent transfers within a geography).
9. Artificial Interests (Privileges) Letters of Marque, Patents, Copyrights, Grants of License.
10. Common Interests, or “Commons” (Community Property) Institutional Property: “Those objects into which we have invested our forgone opportunities, our efforts, or our material assets, in order to aggregate capital from multiple individuals for mutual gain.”
(i) Informational commons: knowledge. Information.
(ii) Informal (Normative) Institutions: Our norms: habits, manners, ethics and morals. Informal institutional property is nearly impossible to quantify and price. The costs are subjective and consist of forgone opportunities.
(iii) Formal (Physical) Commons: the territory, it’s waterways, parks, buildings, improvements and infrastructure.
(iv) Formal (Procedural) Institutions: Our institutions: Religion, Education, Banking, Treasury, Government, Laws, Courts.
(v) Monuments (art and artifacts). Monuments claim territory, demonstrate wealth, and provide one of the longest most invariable normative and economic returns that any culture can construct as a demonstration of conspicuous production (wealth), and as such, conspicuous excellence. (hence why competing monuments represent an invasion. Temples, Churches, Museums, Sculptures being the most obvious examples of cultural claim or conquest. )
(vi) Common Opportunity Interests When people come together in proximity, and suppress impositions of costs upon the interests of others through the incremental evolution of the law of reciprocity, they decrease the time and effort required to produce voluntary association, cooperation and exchange. As such polities decrease opportunity costs, and generate opportunities. These opportunities are un-homsesteaded (opportunities) until invested in by individuals either by expenditure of time effort and resources, or by forgoing opportunities for consumption. As such the proximity of people and the institution of reciprocity under law produce a commons of opportunities that we seize (homestead) by competition. As such no one may claim interest in an opportunity without conducting and exchange by which to seize it.INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO The Series of: … (a) murder, … (b) harm, damage, theft, … (c) fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by indirection, baiting into hazard … (d) free riding, socialization of losses, privatization of commons, … (e) rent seeking, monopoly seeking, conspiracy, statism/corporatism, … (f) conversion(religion/pseudoscience), … (g) displacement(immigration/overbreeding), … (h) conquest (war). (End)
ON TRUTH (Complete)(core)TRUTH: “TESTIMONY THAT SATISFIES DEMAND FOR INFALLIBILITY”WHERE TRUTH CONSISTS IN THE SERIES
Analytic Truth: The testimony you give promising the internal consistency of one or more statements used in the construction of a proof in an axiomatic(declarative) system. (a Logical Truth).
Ideal Truth: That testimony (description) you would give, if your knowledge (information) was complete, your language was sufficient, stated without error, cleansed of bias, and absent deceit, within the scope of precision limited to the context of the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possessed of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony. (Ideal Truth = Perfect Parsimony.)
Truthfulness: that testimony (description) you give if your knowledge (information) is incomplete, your language is insufficient, you have performed due diligence in the elimination of error, imaginary content, wishful thinking, bias, fictionalism, and deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and which you warranty to be so; and the promise that another possessed of the knowledge, performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
Reasonableness: that testimony (description) you give, as justification for your reporting of your belief, justification, preference, coice, or actions with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
Honesty: that testimony (description) you give with full knowledge that knowledge is incomplete, your language is insufficient, but you have not performed due diligence in the elimination of error and bias, but which you warranty is free of deceit; within the scope of precision limited to the question you wish to answer; and the promise that another possess of the same knowledge (information), performing the same due diligence, having the same experiences, would provide the same testimony.
WHERE TRUTHFUL SPEECH
WHERE DEMAND FOR DECIDABILITY:
In the OBVERSE: Instead, we should determine if there is a means of choosing without the need for additional information supplied from outside the system (ie: not discretionary).
Or in simple terms, if DISCRETION is necessary the question is undecidable, and if discretion is unnecessary, a proposition is decidable. This separates reason (or calculation in the wider sense) from computation (algorithm). GIVEN The Series:
GIVEN THE HUMAN FACULTIES:
WHERE THE SPEECH IS CONSISTS OF:
WHERE THE CRITERIA FOR TRUTHFUL SPEECH IS: Coherence Across the Dimensions Testifiable by Man, in The Series:
AS A DEFENSE AGAINST THE SERIES:
IN DEFENSE OR ADVOCACY OF: Any transfer of demonstrated interests that is not reciprocal, the tests of: … (a) productive … (b) fully informed, fully accounted … (d) voluntary transfer of demonstrated interests … (e) free of externality of the same criteria … (c) warrantied and within the limits of liability WHERE DEMONSTRATED INTEREST INCLUDES: 1. Existential (or Natural) Interests: Definition:
Existential (or Natural) Interest: Interests that inherent in physical existence. Where;
1. Self: Life, Body, Genes, Memories, Mind, Attention Time, and Action
2. Stimulation, Experience
3. Status and Class (reputation, honor) Self-Image, Status, Reputation Social, Sexual, Economic, Political, and Military Market Value
4. Kin and Interpersonal (Relationship) Interests Mates (access to sex/reproduction), and Marriage Children (genetic reproduction) Consanguineous Relations (family, kin, clan, tribal and national relations)
5. Sustainable Patterns of Association, Cooperation, Insurance, Reproduction, Production, Distribution and Trade Friends, Acquaintances, Neighbors, Cooperative Relations, Commercial Relations, Political Relations, and Military Relations.
Definition:
Obtained Interest: Interests that are obtained by bearing a cost of opportunity, time, effort, resources, to obtain that interest without imposing upon the previously born costs of others. Where; Obtained Interests Include:
6. Several (Personal) Interests Personal property: “Things an individual has a Monopoly Of Control over the use of.” Physical Body and Several Property: Those things we claim a monopoly of control over.
7. Shareholder (Fractional) Interests Shares in property: Recorded And Quantified Shareholder Property (claims for partial ownership)
8. Title Interests (Weights and Measures) Trademarks and Brands (prohibitions on fraudulent transfers within a geography).
9. Artificial Interests (Privileges) Letters of Marque, Patents, Copyrights, Grants of License.
10. Common Interests, or “Commons” (Community Property) Institutional Property: “Those objects into which we have invested our forgone opportunities, our efforts, or our material assets, in order to aggregate capital from multiple individuals for mutual gain.”
(i) Informational commons: knowledge. Information.
(ii) Informal (Normative) Institutions: Our norms: habits, manners, ethics and morals. Informal institutional property is nearly impossible to quantify and price. The costs are subjective and consist of forgone opportunities.
(iii) Formal (Physical) Commons: the territory, it’s waterways, parks, buildings, improvements and infrastructure.
(iv) Formal (Procedural) Institutions: Our institutions: Religion, Education, Banking, Treasury, Government, Laws, Courts.
(v) Monuments (art and artifacts). Monuments claim territory, demonstrate wealth, and provide one of the longest most invariable normative and economic returns that any culture can construct as a demonstration of conspicuous production (wealth), and as such, conspicuous excellence. (hence why competing monuments represent an invasion. Temples, Churches, Museums, Sculptures being the most obvious examples of cultural claim or conquest. )
(vi) Common Opportunity Interests When people come together in proximity, and suppress impositions of costs upon the interests of others through the incremental evolution of the law of reciprocity, they decrease the time and effort required to produce voluntary association, cooperation and exchange. As such polities decrease opportunity costs, and generate opportunities. These opportunities are un-homsesteaded (opportunities) until invested in by individuals either by expenditure of time effort and resources, or by forgoing opportunities for consumption. As such the proximity of people and the institution of reciprocity under law produce a commons of opportunities that we seize (homestead) by competition. As such no one may claim interest in an opportunity without conducting and exchange by which to seize it.INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO The Series of: … (a) murder, … (b) harm, damage, theft, … (c) fraud, fraud by omission, fraud by indirection, baiting into hazard … (d) free riding, socialization of losses, privatization of commons, … (e) rent seeking, monopoly seeking, conspiracy, statism/corporatism, … (f) conversion(religion/pseudoscience), … (g) displacement(immigration/overbreeding), … (h) conquest (war). (End)