(FB 1546188259 Timestamp) —“Intellectual paradigms must surely require a different system of qualification besides functionality?”— Lisa Outhwaite All these tests are either additive (or not subtractive): 1 – True (not false), 2 – Excellent(not faulty), 3 – Actionable (not inactionable), 4 – Good (not-ir-reciprocal), 5 – Beautiful (not ugly). So yes. And this is yet another EXCELLENT example of why I do not use sets or set logic, but series, supply demand, Limits, and multi-dimensionality. No ideal types, Ideals – single dimensional tests of multi dimensional questions are just a convenient way of using aggregation for the purpose of obscurantism, loading, framing, and deceit. I suppose I should harp on the deconflation problem more often and explain why more often, but THREE POINTS TEST A LINE. A line of two points has no test of error. In other words, contrasting by one axis (statement, comparison) is a simple game – and a game too simple for any question of substance. Yet it is the preferred (lowest cost) method of human speech. Which is why we rely on justification (low cost meaning) versus falsification (high cost truth). This is why I consider all speech representable as geometry. And it is how I approach all speech: geometrically.
Theme: Truth
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(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546302111 Timestamp) GETTING TIRED OF LITTLE BOYS WITH COMIC BOOK IDEAS RIDING ON THE COATTAILS If anything is to be said, in furtherance of some set of ideas, it must be said about the totality of the market of ideas, not just me and mine. Or it is, as is obviously the case, in this case, just an attempt at drawing attention from that which is successful to that and those who are unsuccessful. Little boys have little boy dreams, of little boy complexity. Men raise, armies, organize logistics, and write laws, and build institutions, because men understand organization at scale – because they have built organizations at scale. Little boys likewise play ‘climb on to the coattails’ of better men. Because they have no experience with constructing ideas, organizations, or solving problems more complicated than those in comic books. Proclamations are not arguments. If it is necessary for me to invest time in further humiliation pretenders, I’m loathe to waste my time at it, but happy to do good service. But these feeble attempts at getting attention with sophisms are embarrassing. And frankly I consider responding beneath me. Since anyone stupid enough to be so fooled is not someone that is helpful to an intellectual movement, nor safe enough to allow to carry arms. Please stop wasting my time with coat-tailing. -Curt Doolittle — VIA ANONYMOUS — (1) Militia “sovereignty” and rule by law are myths. Someone must always rule, someone must decide on the exception. Pushing Middle sovereignty is just continuing the same liberal hysteria against authority, which has led to the HLvM as the logical result. The HLvM won’t stop until we either acquire language better able to validate sovereign authority or war and collapse our tribal structures down low enough where we are able to make such validations, which would represent a massive civilizational regression, all while not possessing those linguistic innovations we would need to scale back up. (2) In evaluating reciprocity, the dimensional tests of identity are not actually how humans evaluate a moral context. Human language is not a closed, declarative system, as much as Curt needs it to be. We wouldn’t even have self-consciousness if language was a closed system, recursive as he still will claim it to be. Curt is a computer scientist trying to force a computer paradigm on to humans, and he ironically hasn’t done the due diligence he speaks so much about by widely studying philosophy of language. Chomsky himself wouldn’t support the simple Shannon-Weaver model of language that Curt’s operationalism relies on, and the field of linguistics has gone so much further than Chomsky by now, into cognition and intentionality, not “signals” and identical “operations” (how computers “communicate,” except that they’re not even self-conscious agents, so it’s a projected metaphor by an anti-philosopher). I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it, again: what is good in Propertarianism (pragmatist legal theory, i.e. unloading claims into processable ‘chunks’) is unoriginalâjurists have naturally known and done such things since the very beginning. The problem would then lie in why our elites have incentives for a HLvM, and the solution to that isn’t doubling-down on why the elites have incentives for a HLvM (hysteria against pre-declarative authority). What is bad in Propertarianism is loosely ‘original’, but in the sense that it’s the latest iteration of the disease of scientistic liberalism. So, we’re left with what you concluded the show with: who watches the watchers, what are the mechanisms of moral accountability? Is it authoritarianismâ’absolutism’? Is it rule by lawâ’nomocracy’? Well, we’d have to drill down on theory of language to answer that question (the short answer is that, yes, there must always be a leader of any size groupâsomeone must always be leading discourse and shaping linguistic frames, but also that there is a moral feedback loop; it’s just not ultimately validated through declarative science), and I think once you do that you’ll see how empty Propertarianism comes up, but it’s okay, because there are plenty enough intelligent people who’ve come before you through his system and have been doing work exploring and filling in gaps that he refused to. I don’t mean that reassurance patronizingly. There are many reasons, trivial and dire, moral and practical, why these naive, young men shouldn’t get led astray with a half-baked, anti-human system.
—- VIA MEGAN USUI Megan K. Usui —- Are you saying the Curt does not think there should be a ruler for a city and nation state in addition to the law? The ruler should follow the law in most cases but everyone knows about war and other extreme cases? — ???? via unknown — Oh, he has been known to talk about constitutional monarchy, but it’s the same anti-absolutism, for humoring ‘constitutionally limited’ (he also seems to think absolutism implies completely arbitrary, out-of-nowhere dictates, which is what a tyrant does, not a leader). When we can finally get past a naive view of language, absolutism (and everyday experiences inside human groups) makes complete sense. It opens up other areas of inquiry more helpful to resolving modern politics. Of course, I’m not going to be going around, trying to ideologically convince people of ‘absolutism’, like it’s some kind of historical aesthetic. We should use the discourse of the day and seek to be harmonizing the culture. Sometimes, self-defense will be necessary, but it’s a serious problem if a system only has threats of violence and bribery as motivations. A system with no way of speaking of the sacred is going to be left with only commerce and violenceâvery modern, very confused.
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(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
(FB 1546368914 Timestamp) Guy blocked me for the truth while defending molly. 😉
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546302111 Timestamp) GETTING TIRED OF LITTLE BOYS WITH COMIC BOOK IDEAS RIDING ON THE COATTAILS If anything is to be said, in furtherance of some set of ideas, it must be said about the totality of the market of ideas, not just me and mine. Or it is, as is obviously the case, in this case, just an attempt at drawing attention from that which is successful to that and those who are unsuccessful. Little boys have little boy dreams, of little boy complexity. Men raise, armies, organize logistics, and write laws, and build institutions, because men understand organization at scale – because they have built organizations at scale. Little boys likewise play ‘climb on to the coattails’ of better men. Because they have no experience with constructing ideas, organizations, or solving problems more complicated than those in comic books. Proclamations are not arguments. If it is necessary for me to invest time in further humiliation pretenders, I’m loathe to waste my time at it, but happy to do good service. But these feeble attempts at getting attention with sophisms are embarrassing. And frankly I consider responding beneath me. Since anyone stupid enough to be so fooled is not someone that is helpful to an intellectual movement, nor safe enough to allow to carry arms. Please stop wasting my time with coat-tailing. -Curt Doolittle — VIA ANONYMOUS — (1) Militia “sovereignty” and rule by law are myths. Someone must always rule, someone must decide on the exception. Pushing Middle sovereignty is just continuing the same liberal hysteria against authority, which has led to the HLvM as the logical result. The HLvM won’t stop until we either acquire language better able to validate sovereign authority or war and collapse our tribal structures down low enough where we are able to make such validations, which would represent a massive civilizational regression, all while not possessing those linguistic innovations we would need to scale back up. (2) In evaluating reciprocity, the dimensional tests of identity are not actually how humans evaluate a moral context. Human language is not a closed, declarative system, as much as Curt needs it to be. We wouldn’t even have self-consciousness if language was a closed system, recursive as he still will claim it to be. Curt is a computer scientist trying to force a computer paradigm on to humans, and he ironically hasn’t done the due diligence he speaks so much about by widely studying philosophy of language. Chomsky himself wouldn’t support the simple Shannon-Weaver model of language that Curt’s operationalism relies on, and the field of linguistics has gone so much further than Chomsky by now, into cognition and intentionality, not “signals” and identical “operations” (how computers “communicate,” except that they’re not even self-conscious agents, so it’s a projected metaphor by an anti-philosopher). I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it, again: what is good in Propertarianism (pragmatist legal theory, i.e. unloading claims into processable ‘chunks’) is unoriginalâjurists have naturally known and done such things since the very beginning. The problem would then lie in why our elites have incentives for a HLvM, and the solution to that isn’t doubling-down on why the elites have incentives for a HLvM (hysteria against pre-declarative authority). What is bad in Propertarianism is loosely ‘original’, but in the sense that it’s the latest iteration of the disease of scientistic liberalism. So, we’re left with what you concluded the show with: who watches the watchers, what are the mechanisms of moral accountability? Is it authoritarianismâ’absolutism’? Is it rule by lawâ’nomocracy’? Well, we’d have to drill down on theory of language to answer that question (the short answer is that, yes, there must always be a leader of any size groupâsomeone must always be leading discourse and shaping linguistic frames, but also that there is a moral feedback loop; it’s just not ultimately validated through declarative science), and I think once you do that you’ll see how empty Propertarianism comes up, but it’s okay, because there are plenty enough intelligent people who’ve come before you through his system and have been doing work exploring and filling in gaps that he refused to. I don’t mean that reassurance patronizingly. There are many reasons, trivial and dire, moral and practical, why these naive, young men shouldn’t get led astray with a half-baked, anti-human system.
—- VIA MEGAN USUI Megan K. Usui —- Are you saying the Curt does not think there should be a ruler for a city and nation state in addition to the law? The ruler should follow the law in most cases but everyone knows about war and other extreme cases? — ???? via unknown — Oh, he has been known to talk about constitutional monarchy, but it’s the same anti-absolutism, for humoring ‘constitutionally limited’ (he also seems to think absolutism implies completely arbitrary, out-of-nowhere dictates, which is what a tyrant does, not a leader). When we can finally get past a naive view of language, absolutism (and everyday experiences inside human groups) makes complete sense. It opens up other areas of inquiry more helpful to resolving modern politics. Of course, I’m not going to be going around, trying to ideologically convince people of ‘absolutism’, like it’s some kind of historical aesthetic. We should use the discourse of the day and seek to be harmonizing the culture. Sometimes, self-defense will be necessary, but it’s a serious problem if a system only has threats of violence and bribery as motivations. A system with no way of speaking of the sacred is going to be left with only commerce and violenceâvery modern, very confused.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546896172 Timestamp) Something must be both false, and immoral. Christian mythology may be ‘true’ to some portion of the faithful (at least ideally) but faith has no place in government, law, or war. However, there is nothing counter to the natural law in christian practice. So christianity passes the test of being not parasitic or counter to natural law. In fact, it is the OPTIMUM EXPRESSION of natural law. This NOT true of judaism and islam which are bothd estructive religions designed to destroy indo european aristocratic civilization. Moreover, while I see demand for a church at least in the protestant sense of participatory government of the commons, and while I consider myself a christian in the secular, and philosophical sense where christianity functions as a political religion, I also consider myself a heathen (pagan) and an advocate for ‘Natural Religion’ (Folk Religion of Nature, ancestors, family, and hearth) was well, and I consider myself an Aryan(or aristotelian) in the sense of the physical laws of nature, and the natural law of men. For these reasons my view of our future religion is along all THREE of these lines, incorporating the best aspects of all three traditions: heathen, aristotelian, and christian, and divesting those three systems of that which is false or harmful to our people.) I wrote the Oath of Transcendent man because I believe it is the optimum correspondence with the physical laws of the universe, and the natural laws of cooperation. Cheers https://propertarianinstitute.com/the-oath-of-transcendent-man/
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1546896172 Timestamp) Something must be both false, and immoral. Christian mythology may be ‘true’ to some portion of the faithful (at least ideally) but faith has no place in government, law, or war. However, there is nothing counter to the natural law in christian practice. So christianity passes the test of being not parasitic or counter to natural law. In fact, it is the OPTIMUM EXPRESSION of natural law. This NOT true of judaism and islam which are bothd estructive religions designed to destroy indo european aristocratic civilization. Moreover, while I see demand for a church at least in the protestant sense of participatory government of the commons, and while I consider myself a christian in the secular, and philosophical sense where christianity functions as a political religion, I also consider myself a heathen (pagan) and an advocate for ‘Natural Religion’ (Folk Religion of Nature, ancestors, family, and hearth) was well, and I consider myself an Aryan(or aristotelian) in the sense of the physical laws of nature, and the natural law of men. For these reasons my view of our future religion is along all THREE of these lines, incorporating the best aspects of all three traditions: heathen, aristotelian, and christian, and divesting those three systems of that which is false or harmful to our people.) I wrote the Oath of Transcendent man because I believe it is the optimum correspondence with the physical laws of the universe, and the natural laws of cooperation. Cheers https://propertarianinstitute.com/the-oath-of-transcendent-man/
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Curt Doolittle posted in Politics: Policy, Theory, Philosophy.
(FB 1546989218 Timestamp) James, if this is a forum for discussion, then it’s a value. Which would require posting both sides of the debate. If this is a form for you to express your frustrations then it is no longer anything to do with theory policy and philosophy, but simply just emotional. Just create an “I hate trump” forum and put it there. But at present you’re not acting any differently from the alt-right-green-frog folks except your posting pseudo-rational propaganda instead of openly irrational green-frog cartoons. You have energy and a particular gift. And if you employ it honestly then you can make a contribution to the world. I’m honest about my work and my bias. (and yes, the fact that The Clinton Foundation defrauded me of $2M they said they would pay me for developing the greenhouse-gas measurement software, after we rescued their efforts in India at Microsoft’s request; and the fact that I have direct experience with these people – including Murdoch’s wife – might color my judgement a bit. These are ‘bad’ immoral, people for whom lying is simply a justifiable means of achieving their ends.) Anger destroys honesty. Half truths are lies. Half arguments are just half truths. Hence why I argue in the manner that I do: the only ‘good’ is exchange. The only ‘moral’ is non-imposition of costs.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1547131377 Timestamp) –“PHILOSOPHY MUST BE DRAGGED OUT OF THE IVORY TOWER AND INTO THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS”– Um. I don’t think so. Unless it has a dramatic reformation. via negativa, measurement, science, economics, and law, versus via positiva, philosophy, theology, occult, daydreaming. While I find no difference between theorizing and philosophizing that is because I do not engage in empty verbalisms or sophisms, pseudosciences, nor the magic of ignoring costs. Philosophy can be laundered such that philosophizing(imaginary and verbal) and theorizing (existential and actionable) are essentially identical by the use of operational language, the full accounting of costs, and a preface of the choice of goods as those of the equalitarian herd, or the hierarchical pack. But as practiced, and as the demotion of the discipline to a peer to theology has evidenced, measuring, theorizing, philosophizing, and theologizing are simply analogous to description, deduction, induction, abduction, and guessing, using increasingly specious excuses for one’s guesswork. The athenian tradition did not account for costs. There are two principle reasons for it: (1) the peerage was small and wealthy with common interests – and costs were as rude then as today (2) discussion of costs immediately changes from ideals to reals thereby self selecting into class interests (3) mathematical idealism influenced greco-roman thought so heavily, giving such sophism an unearned legitimacy. (4) historically religion spoke in these ideal terms, philosophy an improvement upon them, and empiricism an improvement upon philosophy, and science an improvement upon empiricism, just as ‘Testimonialism’ is an improvement upon science. (empiricism vs science distinguished by the 20th’s implementation of operational language, and testimonialism by the completion of the scientific method). It is time for philosophy to either abandon idealism, sophism, and the ignorance of costs, or to be further demoted into the theology of ideals. Otherwise, like theology, it cannot compete in the marketplace of ideas. That is what the evidence shows us. People ask me every single day what philosophy to read and I tell them ‘none of it’ other than perhaps the bookends of Aristotle and Nietzsche. The rest is all measurement, science, economics, Law, and history. There are no crimes equal to those of abraham, saul, and mohammed in the ancient world, and marx, freud, boas, in the 19th, and adorno, derrida and foucault in the 20th. We can complain about Augustine and Aquinas as apologists, but by them the damage was done. It is very hard to criticize archimedes, democritus, aristotle, epicurus, zeno in the ancient world, and bacon, newton, hobbes, lock, smith, hume in the modern, or poincare, maxwell, darwin, menger, pareto, spencer, nietzsche and many others in the 19th, and einstein, watson-crick, and the many others in the 20th. Precision of our knowledge increases thereby justifying the pack, offset by counter-revolutions in denial, sophism, pseudoscience, and supernaturalism expanding the herd. And the war between neolithic feminine dysgenic herd strategy of the levant, and the bronze age masculine eugenic pack strategy of indo europeans. Truth is undesirable to the many.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
(FB 1547246629 Timestamp) There is no wisdom literature that is not false, that cannot be broken in to operational, fully accounted language.