by Curt Doolittle, for philosophy supernerds. (Q via Joel Davis ) [W]ell, all of these examples are correct criticisms of justificationism. But P is ONLY falsificationary. Ideal truth and promises of ideal proof are all fallacies in P. All we can know is what we can testify to, and if we exhaust all possible dimensions that we can testify to, we can claim that our statements propositions theories promises are not false, and whether they are sufficient to solve the demand for infallibility for the question proposed. In other words, all truth in P is the result of competition between opposing forces. Because like Reason (hypothesis), Action (operation), and Consequence (empiricism) all knowledge is the product of the same series: hypothesis, the set of which eliminates opportunities for falsehood from the field of possibilities. Proof originated in the mathematics of geometry, under which ‘proof’ refers to the possibility of composing a measurement. So a proof refers to a proof of possibility. Now, the problem here is rather simple. Mathematics (alone) consists of ratios. So all numbers are some ratio of 1. Ratios are scale independent. Or stated with a different term: limit independent – which is why we can talk about existential impossibilities like infinity. Infinity CAN only mean ‘unknown limit’ given the scale demands of the question at hand. But there are no non tautological unlimited statements. Information expressed in language is always less than that in the universe that the language corresponds to (is consistent with, not incommensurable with). There is no premise in mathematics beyond the identity 1 and it’s universal possibility of assignment of correspondence to any category we choose. Math is simply the most simple possible language we can speak in: it has only one dimension: position, and all positions are just names of ratios to the identity 1 of the category. That’s not true of other language: all other non tautological human statements depend upon a premise and limits. Were Aristotle, Newton, and Einstein in error? Clearly, they were in error beyond the limit of that which they propose to describe. But they each met the demand for infallibility at the scale they described. Likewise, we do not use ‘proof’ in court, we use evidence sufficient to persuade the jury beyond reasonable doubt given the demand for infallibility in the matter in question (standards are higher with the death penalty than a small claims issue – which is why murder trials are expensive.) So, P uses exhaustive (complete) falsification (due diligence), warranty of that due diligence, and demand for infallibility given the question at hand – all via negativa – rather than some nonsensical idealism called “truth”. We can speak truthfully, but we can never – or at least in any non trivial question – know if we speak “the most parsimonious operational name possible”: Truth. So for example, empirical evidence can be used to falsify a criticism, but it does not promise ideal truth. Operational possibility, even repeatability, doesn’t tell us much, only the failure of all alternatives. We know the problem of repeatability of error. Falsification (process of elimination) is a very ‘expensive’ epistemology which is why it’s been avoided throughout history. People want to work with what’s in their heads whenever possible – because it’s cheap – but it’s also not warrantable as having survived due diligence. In other words, man must be able to identify a dimension he is able to testify to other than the logical, operational, empirical, rational, and it’s the COMPETITION between those testimonies under limits, completeness (full accounting within limits), parsimony, and coherence that reduce the opportunity for ignorance, error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, fictionalism, and deceit. So I do not use a trivial ideal truth (sophistry) nor justification nor proof. I use a competition by attempted falsification of every dimensions open to human perception that humans can perform due diligence against, and can warranty, hopefully to the point of restitution, if they err. And determine the standard of truth by the demand for infallibility for the given question. Why is this unappealing? You can’t use witty words to overload common people with sophomoric ‘proofs’ and accusations of insufficiency or contradiction. Where did this emphasis on ‘proof’ come from? It came from scriptural interpretation in the religious world, and legal interpretation in the secular world, mathematics in the intellectual world, and moral license in the vulgar world. If you can falsify Testimonialism (I don’t think it can be done) then I wold like to know but I have been working on this problem for ten years now and I’m pretty certain that it’s invulnerable, and it is probably the end of the european testimonial (scientific) program. I think metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, sociology, law, and politics are solved, at least at the scales and limits I am able to perceive given human abilities within the physical universe at this time.
Theme: Truth
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Does P Epistemology Stack Up?
by Curt Doolittle, for philosophy supernerds. (Q via Joel Davis ) [W]ell, all of these examples are correct criticisms of justificationism. But P is ONLY falsificationary. Ideal truth and promises of ideal proof are all fallacies in P. All we can know is what we can testify to, and if we exhaust all possible dimensions that we can testify to, we can claim that our statements propositions theories promises are not false, and whether they are sufficient to solve the demand for infallibility for the question proposed. In other words, all truth in P is the result of competition between opposing forces. Because like Reason (hypothesis), Action (operation), and Consequence (empiricism) all knowledge is the product of the same series: hypothesis, the set of which eliminates opportunities for falsehood from the field of possibilities. Proof originated in the mathematics of geometry, under which ‘proof’ refers to the possibility of composing a measurement. So a proof refers to a proof of possibility. Now, the problem here is rather simple. Mathematics (alone) consists of ratios. So all numbers are some ratio of 1. Ratios are scale independent. Or stated with a different term: limit independent – which is why we can talk about existential impossibilities like infinity. Infinity CAN only mean ‘unknown limit’ given the scale demands of the question at hand. But there are no non tautological unlimited statements. Information expressed in language is always less than that in the universe that the language corresponds to (is consistent with, not incommensurable with). There is no premise in mathematics beyond the identity 1 and it’s universal possibility of assignment of correspondence to any category we choose. Math is simply the most simple possible language we can speak in: it has only one dimension: position, and all positions are just names of ratios to the identity 1 of the category. That’s not true of other language: all other non tautological human statements depend upon a premise and limits. Were Aristotle, Newton, and Einstein in error? Clearly, they were in error beyond the limit of that which they propose to describe. But they each met the demand for infallibility at the scale they described. Likewise, we do not use ‘proof’ in court, we use evidence sufficient to persuade the jury beyond reasonable doubt given the demand for infallibility in the matter in question (standards are higher with the death penalty than a small claims issue – which is why murder trials are expensive.) So, P uses exhaustive (complete) falsification (due diligence), warranty of that due diligence, and demand for infallibility given the question at hand – all via negativa – rather than some nonsensical idealism called “truth”. We can speak truthfully, but we can never – or at least in any non trivial question – know if we speak “the most parsimonious operational name possible”: Truth. So for example, empirical evidence can be used to falsify a criticism, but it does not promise ideal truth. Operational possibility, even repeatability, doesn’t tell us much, only the failure of all alternatives. We know the problem of repeatability of error. Falsification (process of elimination) is a very ‘expensive’ epistemology which is why it’s been avoided throughout history. People want to work with what’s in their heads whenever possible – because it’s cheap – but it’s also not warrantable as having survived due diligence. In other words, man must be able to identify a dimension he is able to testify to other than the logical, operational, empirical, rational, and it’s the COMPETITION between those testimonies under limits, completeness (full accounting within limits), parsimony, and coherence that reduce the opportunity for ignorance, error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, fictionalism, and deceit. So I do not use a trivial ideal truth (sophistry) nor justification nor proof. I use a competition by attempted falsification of every dimensions open to human perception that humans can perform due diligence against, and can warranty, hopefully to the point of restitution, if they err. And determine the standard of truth by the demand for infallibility for the given question. Why is this unappealing? You can’t use witty words to overload common people with sophomoric ‘proofs’ and accusations of insufficiency or contradiction. Where did this emphasis on ‘proof’ come from? It came from scriptural interpretation in the religious world, and legal interpretation in the secular world, mathematics in the intellectual world, and moral license in the vulgar world. If you can falsify Testimonialism (I don’t think it can be done) then I wold like to know but I have been working on this problem for ten years now and I’m pretty certain that it’s invulnerable, and it is probably the end of the european testimonial (scientific) program. I think metaphysics, epistemology, psychology, sociology, law, and politics are solved, at least at the scales and limits I am able to perceive given human abilities within the physical universe at this time.
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Counsel: Philosophy vs Sophism
Counsel: Philosophy vs Sophism https://propertarianism.com/2019/10/03/counsel-philosophy-vs-sophism/
Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 23:26:33 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179900576324358148
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Counsel: Philosophy vs Sophism
COUNSEL: PHILOSOPHY VS SOPHISM [G]iven any term, always use a series of at least 3 to 5 when analyzing propositions. I prefer 8 to 12 whenever I can get them, and english because it has so vast a vocabulary of working, governing, intellectual, logical, and scientific origins is extremely useful for creating constellations of constant relations whether in one series, or a competition between series we call ‘supply and demand curves’. Using series – which is what I teach – disambiguates and prevents errors of conflation when using ideal types and fallacies of construction such as ‘principles’. Example: Good < Moral < Ethical < Amoral > Unethical > Immoral > Evil constant relations: 1… change in capital whether positive, neutral, or negative 2… degree of intent, accidental, self interest, other interest 3… degree of informational distance between actors and victims (ethical interpersonal, moral inter social, evil both.) Most sophistry in philosophy consists of: 1… using ideal rather than serialized (enumerated) definitions; 2… using the verb to be (is are was were, be, being) rather than the means of existence; 3… conflating points of view between the observer, actor, and acted upon; 4… and failing to construct complete sentences in testimonial (promissory) grammar, using operational terms. You will find that this is one of the points of demarcation between pseudoscience, theology, philosophy, moralizing, and testimony (what we call science): disambiguation and operationalization into complete promissory sentences will rapidly demonstrate that almost all philosophical questions are sophisms. Witticisms. Nonsense. Puzzles. Riddles. But nothing more. ORIGINS Mathematics has only one constant relation (position) consisting of a single ratio, which provides scale independence, and cost independence which produces fully deterministic and testable descriptions. Yet philosophers since the time of the greeks have be trying to imitate it’s utility to no avail, and instead, have created textual and verbal interpretation under the premise the the triviality of one-dimensional positional logic can provide the same utility in deduction and prediction (induction) as the constant relations of mathematics. Animism > Readings (Divination) > Astrology > Scriptural interpretation > Textual interpretation > legal interpretation > numerology > postmodern linguistic divination all constitute the same: finding what is not there as an appeal to an non-existent authority. The only peer to mathematics in language is serialization: lines that test the constant relations between points (terms), and supply demand curves that test the relationship between lines ( propositions.).
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Counsel: Philosophy vs Sophism
COUNSEL: PHILOSOPHY VS SOPHISM [G]iven any term, always use a series of at least 3 to 5 when analyzing propositions. I prefer 8 to 12 whenever I can get them, and english because it has so vast a vocabulary of working, governing, intellectual, logical, and scientific origins is extremely useful for creating constellations of constant relations whether in one series, or a competition between series we call ‘supply and demand curves’. Using series – which is what I teach – disambiguates and prevents errors of conflation when using ideal types and fallacies of construction such as ‘principles’. Example: Good < Moral < Ethical < Amoral > Unethical > Immoral > Evil constant relations: 1… change in capital whether positive, neutral, or negative 2… degree of intent, accidental, self interest, other interest 3… degree of informational distance between actors and victims (ethical interpersonal, moral inter social, evil both.) Most sophistry in philosophy consists of: 1… using ideal rather than serialized (enumerated) definitions; 2… using the verb to be (is are was were, be, being) rather than the means of existence; 3… conflating points of view between the observer, actor, and acted upon; 4… and failing to construct complete sentences in testimonial (promissory) grammar, using operational terms. You will find that this is one of the points of demarcation between pseudoscience, theology, philosophy, moralizing, and testimony (what we call science): disambiguation and operationalization into complete promissory sentences will rapidly demonstrate that almost all philosophical questions are sophisms. Witticisms. Nonsense. Puzzles. Riddles. But nothing more. ORIGINS Mathematics has only one constant relation (position) consisting of a single ratio, which provides scale independence, and cost independence which produces fully deterministic and testable descriptions. Yet philosophers since the time of the greeks have be trying to imitate it’s utility to no avail, and instead, have created textual and verbal interpretation under the premise the the triviality of one-dimensional positional logic can provide the same utility in deduction and prediction (induction) as the constant relations of mathematics. Animism > Readings (Divination) > Astrology > Scriptural interpretation > Textual interpretation > legal interpretation > numerology > postmodern linguistic divination all constitute the same: finding what is not there as an appeal to an non-existent authority. The only peer to mathematics in language is serialization: lines that test the constant relations between points (terms), and supply demand curves that test the relationship between lines ( propositions.).
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Render faith unto god, and truth unto Caesar. I don’t do faith. I do testimony.
Render faith unto god, and truth unto Caesar.
I don’t do faith. I do testimony.
Cheers,
Caesar
Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 23:00:41 UTC
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Yes We Need Order Rather than Chaos
(from Gab)
—“Jefferson? We don’t need freedom, we need order”– @alternative_right
[Y]es, but what order?
- Order of Truth, Science, Law and productive cooperation? (Rule of Law – Competition between men under the law of reciprocity.)
Or order of Lies, Supernaturalism, Scripture and Parasitism – Rule by men? (Rule by Church Men – Priests)
Or order of Fraud, Pseudoscience, Sophism and Parasitism – rule by men? (Rule by Dishonest Men – “You Know Who”)
Or order of Force, Command, Whim, and Parasitism – rule by man? (Rule by Forceful Men – Military )
Let me explain Jefferson’s context. 1. The Aristocratic order (taxation force), 2. The Priestly Order(lies, obedience and Tithes) and 3. The Commercial order (truth, tort, and trade). His understanding was natural law Natural law by rule of law. Rule of law producing a commercial order. A commercial order is a voluntary order. An order of meritocracy. Meritocracy meaning Natural Aristocracy. We haven’t replaced it with socializing. We’ve replaced it with DISORDER. We can have our order but we cannot have it by the simple means you intuit. Rules must exist, and rules free of human ‘discretion’ because in the end all human discretion ‘swims left’. Jefferson was (correctly) trying to create a THIRD WAY, free of the parasitism of the state and church – who were both tremendous parasites that kept our people in ignorance and poverty. The Enemy can bed defeated by law and prosecution without planting the seeds of another enemy. The natural law is the best civic religion ever invented by man. The natural law, the stoic method, and the Epicurean goals are the optimum personal religion. The Five Rules of Christianity, if limited to Kin, are the optimum method of producing harmony. The only cost one bears under the natural law is christian forgiveness. And Aryan Intolerance. Every Man a Sheriff.
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Yes We Need Order Rather than Chaos
(from Gab)
—“Jefferson? We don’t need freedom, we need order”– @alternative_right
[Y]es, but what order?
- Order of Truth, Science, Law and productive cooperation? (Rule of Law – Competition between men under the law of reciprocity.)
Or order of Lies, Supernaturalism, Scripture and Parasitism – Rule by men? (Rule by Church Men – Priests)
Or order of Fraud, Pseudoscience, Sophism and Parasitism – rule by men? (Rule by Dishonest Men – “You Know Who”)
Or order of Force, Command, Whim, and Parasitism – rule by man? (Rule by Forceful Men – Military )
Let me explain Jefferson’s context. 1. The Aristocratic order (taxation force), 2. The Priestly Order(lies, obedience and Tithes) and 3. The Commercial order (truth, tort, and trade). His understanding was natural law Natural law by rule of law. Rule of law producing a commercial order. A commercial order is a voluntary order. An order of meritocracy. Meritocracy meaning Natural Aristocracy. We haven’t replaced it with socializing. We’ve replaced it with DISORDER. We can have our order but we cannot have it by the simple means you intuit. Rules must exist, and rules free of human ‘discretion’ because in the end all human discretion ‘swims left’. Jefferson was (correctly) trying to create a THIRD WAY, free of the parasitism of the state and church – who were both tremendous parasites that kept our people in ignorance and poverty. The Enemy can bed defeated by law and prosecution without planting the seeds of another enemy. The natural law is the best civic religion ever invented by man. The natural law, the stoic method, and the Epicurean goals are the optimum personal religion. The Five Rules of Christianity, if limited to Kin, are the optimum method of producing harmony. The only cost one bears under the natural law is christian forgiveness. And Aryan Intolerance. Every Man a Sheriff.
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Ahmed Reda Says It Best
AHMED REDA SAYS IT BEST
—“A Propertarian is expected to (and must) use Mathematics (as a universal language of measurement), Science (as a universal language of testimony), Law and Economics (as a universal language of decidability), Natural history (as a universal language of evidence), Literature (as a universal language of meaning) and Mindfulness (as the means of preventing addictions). And a Propertarian is expected to (and must) demonstrate Agency in pursuit of political power, instead of fantasizing about it.”—Ahmed Reda
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Ahmed Reda Says It Best
AHMED REDA SAYS IT BEST
—“A Propertarian is expected to (and must) use Mathematics (as a universal language of measurement), Science (as a universal language of testimony), Law and Economics (as a universal language of decidability), Natural history (as a universal language of evidence), Literature (as a universal language of meaning) and Mindfulness (as the means of preventing addictions). And a Propertarian is expected to (and must) demonstrate Agency in pursuit of political power, instead of fantasizing about it.”—Ahmed Reda