Theme: Truth

  • No, Morality Isn’t Subjective per Se – Just Minor Variation in It Is.

    Mar 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

    —“…JFG claimed that morality is subjective entirely…”—

    Well, I corrected him. Personal moral bias is subjective. We compete with others in a market of moral biases. We converge to reciprocity within our local geographic, demographic, familial, social, economic, and political organizations, and we absolutely converge on reciprocity in international affairs where there is no means of enforcement other than boycott, trade war, or war. Personal Moral Bias > Local Market Moral Bias > World Market Moral bias. We rarely if ever find people who do not engage in reciprocity within the limits of proportionality who are not outcast or imprisoned or worse. So it’s false that we do not practice reciprocity. We just limit the scope of reciprocity that we take to market to avoid others, cooperate with others, or prey upon others. But the differences in our scopes of reciprocity narrow as we approach the global Because the utility of of our choice declines with scale. Sociopaths often practice reciprocity just fine. Because it’s useful. Empathics practice reciprocity just fine, because they intuit it. the difference is that the first is by experience and reason, the second is by biological intuition. A cooperative species – meaning one that can select whether to cooperate or not – cannot survive without moral intuition.

  • No, Morality Isn’t Subjective per Se – Just Minor Variation in It Is.

    Mar 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

    —“…JFG claimed that morality is subjective entirely…”—

    Well, I corrected him. Personal moral bias is subjective. We compete with others in a market of moral biases. We converge to reciprocity within our local geographic, demographic, familial, social, economic, and political organizations, and we absolutely converge on reciprocity in international affairs where there is no means of enforcement other than boycott, trade war, or war. Personal Moral Bias > Local Market Moral Bias > World Market Moral bias. We rarely if ever find people who do not engage in reciprocity within the limits of proportionality who are not outcast or imprisoned or worse. So it’s false that we do not practice reciprocity. We just limit the scope of reciprocity that we take to market to avoid others, cooperate with others, or prey upon others. But the differences in our scopes of reciprocity narrow as we approach the global Because the utility of of our choice declines with scale. Sociopaths often practice reciprocity just fine. Because it’s useful. Empathics practice reciprocity just fine, because they intuit it. the difference is that the first is by experience and reason, the second is by biological intuition. A cooperative species – meaning one that can select whether to cooperate or not – cannot survive without moral intuition.

  • Righteousness is a moral claim. I simply specialize in reciprocity, and in parti

    Righteousness is a moral claim. I simply specialize in reciprocity, and in particular verbal reciprocity that we call testimony: satisfaction of demand for infallibility given the question at hand, given means, motive, and opportunity.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-23 12:24:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1264170263320633344

    Reply addressees: @hugo909 @TheRealFMCH @Maroeladalx10DB @laurenboebert @austere1717

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1264165863801978880

  • RECIPROCITY (FULL VERSION)

    The natural law is (+)Sovereignty and (-)Reciprocity, in display word and deed, including reciprocity in speech (truthful speech) regardless of cost to the status(dominance, competence hierarch), within the limits of proportionality (in group defection) within the limits of the utility of cooperation (out groups). “Within the limits of the utility of cooperation.” There is no ideal. There are no ideals. There is only what satisfies demand for infallibility. FULL VERSION Limiting our display word and deed to: – Fully informed (truthful and complete); – Regardless of cost to the status, competence, or dominance hierarchy. – Productive and; – Voluntary transfer (or exchange, or imposition of costs upon); – The Demonstrated interests of Others; – Either directly or indirectly (by externality) – Within the limit of incentive for in-group defection; – Within The Limit of the Utility of future out-group Cooperation; – And liable and warrantied, within the limits of restitutability; – Eliminating the incentive of retaliation and retaliation cycles, – And imposition of costs upon the commons of trust by which others cooperate.

  • RECIPROCITY (FULL VERSION)

    The natural law is (+)Sovereignty and (-)Reciprocity, in display word and deed, including reciprocity in speech (truthful speech) regardless of cost to the status(dominance, competence hierarch), within the limits of proportionality (in group defection) within the limits of the utility of cooperation (out groups). “Within the limits of the utility of cooperation.” There is no ideal. There are no ideals. There is only what satisfies demand for infallibility. FULL VERSION Limiting our display word and deed to: – Fully informed (truthful and complete); – Regardless of cost to the status, competence, or dominance hierarchy. – Productive and; – Voluntary transfer (or exchange, or imposition of costs upon); – The Demonstrated interests of Others; – Either directly or indirectly (by externality) – Within the limit of incentive for in-group defection; – Within The Limit of the Utility of future out-group Cooperation; – And liable and warrantied, within the limits of restitutability; – Eliminating the incentive of retaliation and retaliation cycles, – And imposition of costs upon the commons of trust by which others cooperate.

  • The Difficult Idea to Get Across: From Idealism to Realism

    Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM (important) When I say “the big problem is switching people from idealism (homogenous bias) under which each person seeks whatever bias fits his, to realism (heterogeneous bias) that is aware of the market competition. In other words, monopoly is endemic in western moral thinking bcause we’ve been homogenous since our beginnings. So we have no means of defense against the LIE of the value of diversity. This is yet another example of the f—king stupidity of libertarian tropes (sophistry). If you build high trust high value commons, then diversity increases transaction costs that all ancestors worked to reduce. So the reason we seek SOME diversity is to increase novelty because we seek to hyper-consume cheap novelty (consumption that destroys commons) rather than expensive novelty (innovation, continued capitalization of commons). I don’t know how to explain this more simply. I would appreciate anyone who could. Leftists spend down inheritance to feed herd instinct for numbers.

  • The Difficult Idea to Get Across: From Idealism to Realism

    Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM (important) When I say “the big problem is switching people from idealism (homogenous bias) under which each person seeks whatever bias fits his, to realism (heterogeneous bias) that is aware of the market competition. In other words, monopoly is endemic in western moral thinking bcause we’ve been homogenous since our beginnings. So we have no means of defense against the LIE of the value of diversity. This is yet another example of the f—king stupidity of libertarian tropes (sophistry). If you build high trust high value commons, then diversity increases transaction costs that all ancestors worked to reduce. So the reason we seek SOME diversity is to increase novelty because we seek to hyper-consume cheap novelty (consumption that destroys commons) rather than expensive novelty (innovation, continued capitalization of commons). I don’t know how to explain this more simply. I would appreciate anyone who could. Leftists spend down inheritance to feed herd instinct for numbers.

  • Half Truths Are Sources of Ignorance

    Yes I know of the seven laws of Noah. 😉 They are too primitive. They start with god (submission) rather than sovereignty ( responsibility). They don’t include truthful speech regardless of cost. They don’t prevent the great crimes of history (sophistry, false promise, baiting into hazard, fraud) Instead they are the origin of the license for the great crimes of history. They aren’t the source of good. They are the source of evil. Why? Because any half truth spreads ignorance.

  • Half Truths Are Sources of Ignorance

    Yes I know of the seven laws of Noah. 😉 They are too primitive. They start with god (submission) rather than sovereignty ( responsibility). They don’t include truthful speech regardless of cost. They don’t prevent the great crimes of history (sophistry, false promise, baiting into hazard, fraud) Instead they are the origin of the license for the great crimes of history. They aren’t the source of good. They are the source of evil. Why? Because any half truth spreads ignorance.

  • Summary of JFG/Doolittle on The Molyneux Debate

    Apr 1, 2020, 2:57 PM SUMMARY OF JFG/DOOLITTLE ON THE MOLYNEUX DEBATE That was fun. I always enjoy JF. The public isn’t used to seeing how philosophy, law, science and math are done between practitioners – tediously precisely. I realize this kind of thing is difficult for the audience. And JF has to keep the audience engaged. Between my long expositions and jf’s audience representation it required a little cat herding on my part. That said, I think we got there. SUMMARY: (a) we are born with a distribution of moral preferences (Demand for treatment from others, and resistance to demands from other)s, (b) we exercise our moral preferences in a market competition for cooperation wherein we discover cooperation (sexual, social, economic, political, military) with people that satisfy our moral preferences, (c) groups of people increase in a division of labor and as they do so converge on moral norms (requirements for cooperation) that allow them to cooperatively succeed in their geographic, demographic, economic, institutional, and military conditions – and some of these they institute as laws (punishments for violations) (d) across human groups we converge on the same underlying rule within each of those different markets (e) that rule is reciprocity that preserves cooperation and prevents retaliation, within the limits of proportionality that cause members to defect. (e) but moral rules are only useful in creating and preserving cooperation and the outsized returns on cooperation, (f) and cooperation must be more beneficial than parasitism(free riding, black markets, rent seeking, corruption etc), and predation (conquest). (g) all human organizations of all kinds seek the minimum morality, maximum free riding, rent seeking, and corruption until there is insufficient free capital to incentivize adjustment to shocks, and the civilization collapses (h) so there is no moral rule outside of the utility of cooperation because ‘moral’ can only mean ‘within the limits of reciprocity and proportionality among those of us cooperating’. There is no morality in war. (i) the only universal moral rule is reciprocity – do not impose costs, including risks, directly or indirectly upon the demonstrated interests of others in your group. (j) there are no possible via positiva universal moral statements. Anything that is not immoral (reciprocal) is moral. People who claim otherwise are engaging in an act of fraud by claiming their preference must be paid for by others irreciprocally. They claim debts or injustice when there is none. CLOSING As such, JF was correct at the personal level in that all individuals demonstrate variation in moral demand of others;; And SM was half right at the socio-political level, and half right at the universal level, but stated the via positiva preference for a good instead of via negativa prohibition on the bad. In this sense both parties, adopting ideal types, rather than the use of series, talked past each other. P-law makes use of disambiguation through “operationalism, competition, and serialization’, and relies on the logic of incentives, supply and demand. We convert psychological , social, legal and political concepts into economic terms to take advantage of the minimization of error that results, at the expense of more reasoning and less intuiting. -Cheers LEARN SOMETHING: DOOLITTLE on the JFG/MOLYNEUX Debate

    from 0:00 to 1:12:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GRzHdA3lio& ( Stefan Molyneux ) NOTES PRIOR TO SHOW: WHY IS CURT DOOLITTLE SO HOSTILE IN REFORMING LIBERTARIANISM INTO SOVEREIGNTARIANISM? https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle.personal/posts/242127430518751 NOTES FOR GOING ON JFG’S SHOW https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle.personal/posts/241938667204294 (against gariepy) 1 – STEFAN MOLYNEUX AND AND J F GARIEPY DEBATE WAS FKING EMBARASSING https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=594803234449904&id=100017606988153 2 – JFG CLEARLY DOESN’T UNDERSTAND SUPERPOSITION https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=594829684447259&id=100017606988153 (against molyneux) 3 – MORE MOLYNEUX VS JFG AND A SHORT CRITICISM OF UPB https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=594894601107434&id=100017606988153 (against libertarian and right in general) 4 – THE REST OF THE RIGHT IS INTELLECTUALLY EMBARASSING https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=594817174448510&id=100017606988153