Mar 9, 2020, 1:31 PM The lunatic fringe (borderline schizotypal) can’t imagine anyone having guts enough to speak the truth in public and to rally men to political reformation. Their paranoia is a psychological attempt to hide behind their fear, and to gain some semblance of sense of self control. What it really means when people call you a ‘fed’ is that they are scared, powerless, cowards, who desperately want someone else to solve the problem they lack the courage, ability, and agency to solve.
Theme: Truth
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Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT
Mar 9, 2020, 1:44 PM Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT
—“”The theological systems are a false promise to create a social construction that denies some aspect of reality in exchange for a false promise and organize a resistance movement against truth, and markets.”—” —“Can somebody reword this? Feel it’s a great point but difficult for me to understand. It’s in reference to how the usual suspects destroy our countries.”—
Shannon Constantine Logan Leftism is an ideology or a secular religion, so we can use them as an example. Leftism offers the false promise of equality, and creates social constructs that deny basic biology and natural law, in order to steal resources and redistribute them arbitrarily. This is in effect, an organized resistance movement against truth, reciprocity, meritocracy, competition (markets) etc. John Mark Our enemies (people who instinctively react against truth and meritocracy, the western strategy) use 2 techniques to lie as an excuse to violate reciprocity (be parasites). Those 2 techniques are 1) lying about humanity by saying people/groups are equal, and 2) making supernatural claims
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Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT
Mar 9, 2020, 1:44 PM Shannon Constantine and John Mark REWORD IT
—“”The theological systems are a false promise to create a social construction that denies some aspect of reality in exchange for a false promise and organize a resistance movement against truth, and markets.”—” —“Can somebody reword this? Feel it’s a great point but difficult for me to understand. It’s in reference to how the usual suspects destroy our countries.”—
Shannon Constantine Logan Leftism is an ideology or a secular religion, so we can use them as an example. Leftism offers the false promise of equality, and creates social constructs that deny basic biology and natural law, in order to steal resources and redistribute them arbitrarily. This is in effect, an organized resistance movement against truth, reciprocity, meritocracy, competition (markets) etc. John Mark Our enemies (people who instinctively react against truth and meritocracy, the western strategy) use 2 techniques to lie as an excuse to violate reciprocity (be parasites). Those 2 techniques are 1) lying about humanity by saying people/groups are equal, and 2) making supernatural claims
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Demarcation Between the Abrahamic Method and The Christian Method.
Mar 9, 2020, 2:15 PM I think I am simply failing at demarcation between the abrahamic method and the christian method. Gods are good, religion is good, a church is a good thing, jesus said good things, but the bible is evil as hell compared to our founding literatures: the matter of greece and rome, the matter of france, the matter of germany, the matter of england, and the matter of america. These are heroic. But they are for the aristocracy (those with agency). There is no caretaker, no submission, no femininity to the western aristocratic religion. There is just TRAGEDY. Christians attempted to appropriate the western method of tragedy of achilles(upper class, masculine, hero) with jesus (underclass feminine victim) The process worked. It’s compatible. What’s not compatible is abrahamic method of ‘selling’ it. Why is it hard to say ‘jesus was right’. Instead of all the nonsense surrounding it?
- Stories of Gods (Parents) are the most-native(lowest cost, biologically available) language (grammar and logic ) usable by the intuition (pre-conscious), for assistance in decision making (choice) within the group strategy (method of organizing), such that frictions (threats, violations) are minimized, and retaliations are minimized, and opportunities for cooperation are maximized.
There are no gods other than as narrative information, serving as a system of measurement, in our minds. There are hundreds of dead gods and dozens of living gods currently in the minds of men.
There is no life after death other than as information in our minds, and the information we leave behind as conscious and preconscious effects on those around us, and the artifacts in the world around us – but these things do persist after death, and do continue to influence others – and in some cases for thousands of years.
There is no heaven other than as in formation in our minds, it is merely the means by which we release the frustration of bearing the psychological costs of compromise and loss in competition, cooperation, and cohabitation, with others.
The western tradition of ethnocentrism and heroism, sovereignty and reciprocity, truth and duty is the optimum adaptive order for human beings.(The optimum evolutionary strategy)
Christian exhaustion of extension of kinship love to kith with forgiveness before retaliation, dispossession, or extermination, is the optimum means of increasing that adaptive velocity (the optimum prisoner’s dilemma strategy)
Aristotelian realism, naturalism, operationalism, empiricism, logicism, and anglo-cooperativism-and-economicism is the optimum conceptual framework for rapid adaptation (optimum knowledge evolutionary strategy).
The universe works by predictable rules we will continue to discover as the only possible organization of energy that will produce the three dimensions of mass and massless, gravity and pressure, space and time.
But to tolerate all this adaptation, all of which requires stress on our thoughts, emotions, and bodies, we need mindfulness at the psychological (personal), sociological(interpersonal), and political (organizational) levels.
Mindfulness can be provided through ritual which provides a calming effect on our computation, by a continuous positive feedback loop (tea ceremony, sacrifice); it can be provided by social construction of a narrative whether a truth or falsehood (mythology); it can be provided through harmonious group activity (oath, prayer, ritual, dance, sport, festival, feast).It can be provided through discipline ( the rituals of yoga, or of buddhist meditation, and withdrawal)….
… Or mindfulness can be provided through deliberate training (the ritual of the stoic method of continuous self improvement or what we call ‘cognitive behavioral therapy’); it can be provided through epicurean knowledge and living, and aristotelian knowledge of the universe, and aristotelian history of man – a story more heroic than any envisioned in our myths. A story that Includes heroes such as Jesus and Achilles(Alexander).The reason for prohibiting a monotheistic religion is to prevent the use of retaliation by religious fundamentalists against the group – thereby undermining the civilization from within. Likewise the reason for a pagan religion – a pantheon of heroes, scientists, artists, and saints, is to prevent undermining a civilization from within.
The truth is always simple. It’s the lies that make the world complicated. Edit
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Why Does the Left Have to Lie and Deny Differences?
Mar 10, 2020, 10:54 PM The Left= Female Conflict Strategy: Deny, Avoid, Substitute Approval for Truth, Justify, Use Sophistry, Ad Hominem(gsrrm), Rally, Undermine, Strawman, Bait Into Conflict, Bait Into Hazard, Free Ride, Rent Seek, Hyperconsumption, Hypergamy, “Unconscious: The Men Will Take Care of It” The left has to lie. WHY? The suite of programs we have seen in marxism, communism, socialism, Neo-Marxism(cultural marxism), postmodernism, feminism, hbd-denialism(political correctness) are an attempt to undermine every single system of class and gender harmony in tripartite western civilization from within by the false promise of freedom from evolutionary pressures (Darwin), under the pretense that admittedly meritocratic and eugenic western civlization oppressed rather than incrementally domesticated ourselves. And that this strategy – the cause of our successes – is antithetical to the female reproductive strategy, female cognition, and the female group strategy of intellectuals behind marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and HBD-Denialism. We enfranchised this hostile intellectual group, and women at roughly the same time, and gave elites at practicing the female group strategy, and an audience of easily deceived newly enfranchised females, on top of our traditional underclasses, a market to ply with 51% of the vote, 70% of consumption of government services, and 70% of consumer spending. And we did not give them time to integrate into the franchise, rule of law, meritocracy, and to absorb the shock, before the postwar campaign to undermine western civlization through them. Marxism, postmodernism, feminism together are just a repeated of judaism, christianity islam to undermine the aristocratic empires of the ancient world. And we saw the loss of the arts, letters, culture, civilization and genomes of five great civilizations civilization reduced to dysgenia, decline, regression, ignorance, and superstition. The female group conflict strategy? ie: bait others into conflict. 1. Feminine Undermining: Interpersonal and Social Superpredators 2. Female advocacy strategy: “heaping undue praise”, give everyone a prize, giving false compliments. 3. Female Conflict Strategy: disapproval, shaming, ridicule, rallying, gossiping, straw manning, and reputation destruction without end (destruction). 4. Female anti-social behavior: promiscuity, impulsivity, drugs, alcohol, lying, needling, conflict generation, attention seeking, shrilling, outraging. 5. Female Technique: Seduction: False Promise, Baiting Into Hazard. —“Using False Promise, Baiting Into Hazard, Advocated by Pilpul, Defended by Critique, Escaping Liability and Warranty; By Pretense of Plausible Deniability; Despite Deliberate Avoidance of Due Diligence, And Deliberate Evasion of Warranty, Deliberate Escape From Liability, Given the Asymmetry of Knowledge, the Presence of Malincentives by both Agent(s) and Victim(s); And Pursued for the Purpose of Attention, Reward (profit), Influence(power), And Undermining (Power), of the Trust and Cooperation, of a Population in Normal Distribution, Thereby Generating accelerating Cycles of Internal Conflict, And Generating Demand for Authority to Control by the Hazard Maker.”— False promise of freedom from low status and agency. False promise of ability to rule and develop agency. Destruction of civlization culture, arts, knowledge, traditions. The repeat of the christian destruction of the ancient world. Through women and slaves in the old world. Through women and immigrants in the new world. If not for immigrants we would have defeated them. Democracy by 92 Intelligence differences by 99 Gender differences by 12 Group differences in 19 Science would have won. They won by the immigration act. Not by ideas. The romans were too tolerant. So are we. The only way to defeat a social superpredator is with a physical superpredator.
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Why Does the Left Have to Lie and Deny Differences?
Mar 10, 2020, 10:54 PM The Left= Female Conflict Strategy: Deny, Avoid, Substitute Approval for Truth, Justify, Use Sophistry, Ad Hominem(gsrrm), Rally, Undermine, Strawman, Bait Into Conflict, Bait Into Hazard, Free Ride, Rent Seek, Hyperconsumption, Hypergamy, “Unconscious: The Men Will Take Care of It” The left has to lie. WHY? The suite of programs we have seen in marxism, communism, socialism, Neo-Marxism(cultural marxism), postmodernism, feminism, hbd-denialism(political correctness) are an attempt to undermine every single system of class and gender harmony in tripartite western civilization from within by the false promise of freedom from evolutionary pressures (Darwin), under the pretense that admittedly meritocratic and eugenic western civlization oppressed rather than incrementally domesticated ourselves. And that this strategy – the cause of our successes – is antithetical to the female reproductive strategy, female cognition, and the female group strategy of intellectuals behind marxism, postmodernism, feminism, and HBD-Denialism. We enfranchised this hostile intellectual group, and women at roughly the same time, and gave elites at practicing the female group strategy, and an audience of easily deceived newly enfranchised females, on top of our traditional underclasses, a market to ply with 51% of the vote, 70% of consumption of government services, and 70% of consumer spending. And we did not give them time to integrate into the franchise, rule of law, meritocracy, and to absorb the shock, before the postwar campaign to undermine western civlization through them. Marxism, postmodernism, feminism together are just a repeated of judaism, christianity islam to undermine the aristocratic empires of the ancient world. And we saw the loss of the arts, letters, culture, civilization and genomes of five great civilizations civilization reduced to dysgenia, decline, regression, ignorance, and superstition. The female group conflict strategy? ie: bait others into conflict. 1. Feminine Undermining: Interpersonal and Social Superpredators 2. Female advocacy strategy: “heaping undue praise”, give everyone a prize, giving false compliments. 3. Female Conflict Strategy: disapproval, shaming, ridicule, rallying, gossiping, straw manning, and reputation destruction without end (destruction). 4. Female anti-social behavior: promiscuity, impulsivity, drugs, alcohol, lying, needling, conflict generation, attention seeking, shrilling, outraging. 5. Female Technique: Seduction: False Promise, Baiting Into Hazard. —“Using False Promise, Baiting Into Hazard, Advocated by Pilpul, Defended by Critique, Escaping Liability and Warranty; By Pretense of Plausible Deniability; Despite Deliberate Avoidance of Due Diligence, And Deliberate Evasion of Warranty, Deliberate Escape From Liability, Given the Asymmetry of Knowledge, the Presence of Malincentives by both Agent(s) and Victim(s); And Pursued for the Purpose of Attention, Reward (profit), Influence(power), And Undermining (Power), of the Trust and Cooperation, of a Population in Normal Distribution, Thereby Generating accelerating Cycles of Internal Conflict, And Generating Demand for Authority to Control by the Hazard Maker.”— False promise of freedom from low status and agency. False promise of ability to rule and develop agency. Destruction of civlization culture, arts, knowledge, traditions. The repeat of the christian destruction of the ancient world. Through women and slaves in the old world. Through women and immigrants in the new world. If not for immigrants we would have defeated them. Democracy by 92 Intelligence differences by 99 Gender differences by 12 Group differences in 19 Science would have won. They won by the immigration act. Not by ideas. The romans were too tolerant. So are we. The only way to defeat a social superpredator is with a physical superpredator.
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A Little Debate
Mar 11, 2020, 8:35 AM
—“Morality is objective, reciprocity is not. Truth has no bearing on morality, reciprocity totally depends on truth”—Robert Danis
i cant understand that
—“that’s okay. I only believe in truth.”—Robert Danis
i think you’re lying by pretense
—“One person’s moral compass is different than another person’s moral compass. But the truth is a constant. example I believe abortion is wrong. Why? It not for a moral reason, it’s because in truth you’re stealing the future of someone else. My lens is different than yours I’m an American “I hold these truths to be self-evident” good morals are based on beliefs not truths. Reciprocity in my opinion deals with truth not the beliefs and not feelings. All of this comes from my background, look at what I did for employment.”—
I can’t tell if you’re unskilled or dishonest. You are conflating moral(decidable, reciprocal), moral norm, and moral preference(choice).
“…good morals are based on beliefs not truths…”
Belief = Preference (arbitrary). Your preference of moral preference is based on beliefs and beliefs are arbitrary.
“Reciprocity in my opinion deals with truth not the beliefs and not feelings”
Correct. Morality = Reciprocity. Moral norms may or may not be in fact moral. Moral preferences are arbitrary and may or may not be in fact moral. But… disputes over moral norms and moral preferences may be decidable [by test of reciprocity].
—“I will make it simple for you I don’t think morals have anything to do with reciprocity. I believe reciprocity is based on truth. You can disagree if you want but I’m not going to change because I only believe in truth. You do a lot of writing and say nothing. one person’s morals another person morals are not the same but truth is always the same.”—
One person’s moral preference varies, just like one person’s interpretation opinion varies, morality like truth is decidable, which is why we have laws, and why laws express moral norms within group, and why reciprocity expresses morality across groups regardless of group preferences. Reciprocity is the structure of the world: personal bias reflects your reproductive strategy, normative bias reflects your group strategy, international uniformity of reciprocity in international law reflects evolutionary necessity. Not because we choose reciprocity. But because reciprocity is the only means of resolving conflicts. In other words, your opinion on the moral, your moral bias, or your moral preference, are just as likely to be false as your opinions on any other subject. The test of whether you are wrong is reciprocity. So: Moral (reciprocity) <- Moral Norm (group discovered reciprocity) <- Moral Preference-Bias (individual search for reciprocity) Give me an example of morality that is not decidable by reciprocity (other than abortion). I am very good at what I do. I am probably the best at what I do. I do not err. I am preventing you from making the false claim that morals are relative, rather than moral bias is simply a preference.
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A Little Debate
Mar 11, 2020, 8:35 AM
—“Morality is objective, reciprocity is not. Truth has no bearing on morality, reciprocity totally depends on truth”—Robert Danis
i cant understand that
—“that’s okay. I only believe in truth.”—Robert Danis
i think you’re lying by pretense
—“One person’s moral compass is different than another person’s moral compass. But the truth is a constant. example I believe abortion is wrong. Why? It not for a moral reason, it’s because in truth you’re stealing the future of someone else. My lens is different than yours I’m an American “I hold these truths to be self-evident” good morals are based on beliefs not truths. Reciprocity in my opinion deals with truth not the beliefs and not feelings. All of this comes from my background, look at what I did for employment.”—
I can’t tell if you’re unskilled or dishonest. You are conflating moral(decidable, reciprocal), moral norm, and moral preference(choice).
“…good morals are based on beliefs not truths…”
Belief = Preference (arbitrary). Your preference of moral preference is based on beliefs and beliefs are arbitrary.
“Reciprocity in my opinion deals with truth not the beliefs and not feelings”
Correct. Morality = Reciprocity. Moral norms may or may not be in fact moral. Moral preferences are arbitrary and may or may not be in fact moral. But… disputes over moral norms and moral preferences may be decidable [by test of reciprocity].
—“I will make it simple for you I don’t think morals have anything to do with reciprocity. I believe reciprocity is based on truth. You can disagree if you want but I’m not going to change because I only believe in truth. You do a lot of writing and say nothing. one person’s morals another person morals are not the same but truth is always the same.”—
One person’s moral preference varies, just like one person’s interpretation opinion varies, morality like truth is decidable, which is why we have laws, and why laws express moral norms within group, and why reciprocity expresses morality across groups regardless of group preferences. Reciprocity is the structure of the world: personal bias reflects your reproductive strategy, normative bias reflects your group strategy, international uniformity of reciprocity in international law reflects evolutionary necessity. Not because we choose reciprocity. But because reciprocity is the only means of resolving conflicts. In other words, your opinion on the moral, your moral bias, or your moral preference, are just as likely to be false as your opinions on any other subject. The test of whether you are wrong is reciprocity. So: Moral (reciprocity) <- Moral Norm (group discovered reciprocity) <- Moral Preference-Bias (individual search for reciprocity) Give me an example of morality that is not decidable by reciprocity (other than abortion). I am very good at what I do. I am probably the best at what I do. I do not err. I am preventing you from making the false claim that morals are relative, rather than moral bias is simply a preference.
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The Need for Three Grammars: Empathic, Rational, Scientific, United by Truth and
The Need for Three Grammars: Empathic, Rational, Scientific, United by Truth and Reciprocity https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/29/the-need-for-three-grammars-empathic-rational-scientific-united-by-truth-and-reciprocity/
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Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266172507717095424
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The Need for Three Grammars: Empathic, Rational, Scientific, United by Truth and Reciprocity
Mar 12, 2020, 12:35 PM THE NEED FOR THREE GRAMMARS: EMPATHIC, RATIONAL, SCIENTIFIC, UNITED BY TRUTH AND RECIPROCITY ( Rik Storey Yes, I understand the Distributist. I understand you.) I understand the search for supernatural theology in theological terms (submission). I understand the search for secular theology in philosophical (cooperation, exchange). I just also understand the search for transcendence in fact by scientific, technological, institutional, and informational means (dominance). I understand the desire for the feminine, for the libertarian, and for the masculine. And I understand that the behaviors of these three emotional(feminine), rational(compromise), and scientific(masculine) methods are reflections of our degrees of agency over emotion, reason, and action, of ourselves, those near us, and the polity. And I have, I think, understood that these three paradigms, vocabulary, logics (Grammars) reflect our interest, willingness and ability to take on increasing scope of material responsibility, and conversely, the reflection of our preference for, willingness, and ability to go along with the herd in peaceful (non-conflict, non adversarial, agreable ) to unpeaceful(conflict, adversarial, disagreeable) means. And I understand how this spectrum of feminine to masculine strategies is merely a reflection of differences in sexual dimorphism, brain structure, body chemistry, class, indoctrination, training, and skill. And I understand that all three are necessary to prevent the horrors of ignorance and dysgenics and decline under abrahamic or any other monopoly. And I understand the externalities of the feminine(submission, empathic), compromise(exchange,rational), and masculine(dominance, scientific). And I understand the market for elites in all three of these, and the change in the power of elites given changes in demographic composition, economic composition, and strategic and military composition. And I understand that preserving the market for elites and their grammars (paradigms, vocabularies, logics), provides both the most aggressive (male), most adaptive(compromise), and the most regressive (female), and that these three markets keep one another in check. And I understand that via positiva feminine (organize on the positive by emotional myth), via practica in the ascendent male (organize on compromise, cooperation, production by contract), and the via negativa masculine (organize limits by law and war) are not in disharmony or conflict as long as they are relegated (LIMITED) to their domains of CAPABILITY, share the natural law. And that indoctrination (emotional children), training (rational young), and education (scientific adults), just like the ethics of rules, of values, and of outcomes, and the family, society, and polity, all consist of rules of scale. And that all of us are evolved to divide the labor of generating demand for some portion of the temporal and scale spectrums between mothers and children in consumption, brothers in trade, and headmen polity and limits. And that the reason we have developed different grammars is to provide each of us with the most precise tools of calculating thought word and deed, in our spectrum of the division of temporal labor and scale. How do I eliminate the abrahamic method of deceit, and make possible a constant set of grammars from theological(non-conflict and consumption ) to philosophical(competition and contract and production) to scientific(conflcit law and war)? This is the issue. Religion is necessary. A submissive religion may be necessary for the agreeable and feminine brain structure, strategy, and class. A secular religion may suffice – which is what the distributist and the continentals are searching for. My understanding is that there are true religions and false. And that there is no need for a false religion. And that is what I am searching for. No falsehood.