Theme: Truth

  • Views are irrelevant vs the truth, and the true and the reciprocal (moral) aren’

    Views are irrelevant vs the truth, and the true and the reciprocal (moral) aren’t opinions.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-15 09:13:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658037827177676804

    Reply addressees: @ReeSven @jialaowai @KeithWoodsYT

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658032189878018050

  • Quick answer (middle of the night): Increases pattern recognition. Limits contem

    Quick answer (middle of the night):
    Increases pattern recognition. Limits contemplation. Harms attention.
    Not clear YET this is bad IF information is true.
    Probably is bad if informaiton is false or open to bias selection and interpretation.
    Might require education about human differences to correcly interpret the patterns rather than moralize (reductive) them from instincts.
    IOW I’m not sure that ‘scanning’ isn’t an evolutionary advancement for processing more information by reliance on less faulty pattern recognition than faulty reason.
    I am sure that we are more fulnerable to propaganda suggestion and confusion this way.
    So the problem is ‘truth ai’ to limit it.

    Reply addressees: @thedualMan


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-15 08:37:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658028761680433153

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658002374177308672

  • Argument to experience, not evidence. πŸ™

    Argument to experience, not evidence. πŸ™


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-14 22:27:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657875361189724161

    Reply addressees: @GenJones1964 @TheAutistocrat @elonmusk @krassenstein @mattyglesias

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657874893826932744

  • I am not arguing against free speech whatsoever. I’m arguing that people are not

    I am not arguing against free speech whatsoever.
    I’m arguing that people are not honest and moral and that most speech consists of either manipulation or deception or fraud – we simply justify it.

    So, I’m explaining that there are rational incentives. for both the state and the population. The state could act immorally – but so can the people, or at least some segment of them.

    The most common examples are:
    (a) Popular Lying by saying “they’re shooting people” or “there is a bomb threat at x locations” where x locations favor one party or candidate or another.
    or
    (b) State Lying by denying they’re oppressing voters, closing voting stations, rigging votes or election places.

    The question isn’t free speech. It’s free truthful speech. And when both the people and the state lie (Turkey is a low trust country), then we can either choose to risk by leaving the channel for mass communication open for all or closed for all, given that both the state and the people are incentivized to lie.

    For all practical purposes, elections are not restitutable (reversible) except through revolt or civil war. As such all peoples must make a deliberate choice which risk to take given that both sides lie.

    FWIW: your virtue signaling that we call ‘getting on your high horse’ is just lying that your side’s incentives to lie cheat and steal elections are any different from the other sides. This is a wonderful privilege each moral bias happily grants itself despite the evidence.

    Cheers
    Curt Doolittle
    The Natural Law Institute.

    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @zeyburay @TheSilentOG @elonmusk @krassenstein @mattyglesias


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-14 18:35:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657816993536278529

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657803680626638851

  • “Q: Curt: What are your objections to Jesus (and Christianity)?”– Great Questio

    –“Q: Curt: What are your objections to Jesus (and Christianity)?”–

    Great Question

    1. I’m a jeffersonian christian, of the jeffersonian bible, who treats jesus as philosopher of the lower classes or ‘the common people’. That means just the new testament, and just what jesus said, not what others said about him, so no miracles etc. It means I’m a deist (the universe is god) and the natural laws (laws of nature) are gods laws. And the natural law (sovereignty and reciprocity) is gods law of man.

    2. Christianity is a trivially simple strategy for overcoming the hard problem of trust at scale – the solution to the prisoner’s dilimma. This treats everyone as a customer so to speak and prepares people for majority middle class civilzation and the subsequent wealth and prosperity that results. “The extension of kinship love (forgivness, care) to all.”

    3. European civ is aristocratic and even rule of law of natural law with democratic (markets) for the production of commons. Christianity made virtue possible for common people, solving the problem of making aristocratic civilization less divisive, and hierarchy tolerable, by loyalty via christianty between the classes.

    4. While christianity was destructive and ignorance-producing compared to greek and roman literacy and philosophy, it was captured by the aristocracy, and the martial aristocracy preserved our traditions and most importantly our law of soverignty and empiricism in the law, so it could never achieve islamic degrees of cultural destruction. Why? The first principle of european civilization is reciprocal insurance of the soveriegnty of those who demonstrate responsibility for the commons. In other words a prohibition on authoritarianism and the preservation of our 5000 year old law of soverigns from which all western civ evolved.

    5. I generally complain about the following:

    (a) the semitization of christianity that undermined how jesus explained how to tolerate the ‘modernity’ brought about by the greeks, romans, and persians, and the immorality of jews (middle easterners in general) compared to their indo european rulers. This converted jesus as a method of tolerating indo european modernization into a vehicle for resisting that modernization.

    (b) churchianity instead of christianity – the corruption of the church through history: the attempt at rule of the people through superstition and deceit rather than by rule of law, with religion (christianity) making life tolerable for the hard work of agrarian peoples. (we aren’t agrarian any longer).

    (c) the church’s destruction of the ancent world and the subsequent dark ages of superstition.

    (d) the negative consequences of providing mindfulness (what religion does) by superstition instead of more costly discipline (stoicism) and education (truth).

    (e) the evil of fundamentalism: that the abrahamic method of justifying the faith teaches christians how to lie. And they do so endlessly and it’s exasperating and destructive. The marxist-to-woke series of pseudoscientific religions is just a reformation of abrahamic religions, using the same like the same false promises, but in the living world rather than after death: “Salvation after white people” (indo europeans) is the promies of both old and new abrahamic religon.

    Thanks for asking
    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @neilmurrayBCE


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-14 10:11:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657690177303724032

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657669853841444864

  • Its just putting truth first, then only aferward choosing from the moral and pre

    Its just putting truth first, then only aferward choosing from the moral and preferable options that remain. Whereas most people lack the skill, discipline, and intellectual honest – and so simplistically try to solve them simultaneously. The principle fault through all of human history.

    So its Martial stocism, order, and duty, Aristocratic aesthetics of truth, exellence, and beauty. Anglo judicial reasoning, and science that evolved from it. Noblesse oblige as responsibilty for those less able. And respect of as equal regardless of rank for those who do their duty within their ability.

    In other words, good old fashioned germanic aristocracy.

    Reply addressees: @FernandoGLV1212


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-14 03:36:45 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657590746596220929

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657587321309478912

  • SRC: Still hope to meet you at some point because you had such a significant inf

    SRC: Still hope to meet you at some point because you had such a significant influence on me.

    I know philosophy is your subject, discipline, and career. But in retrospect, with present knowledge, I might be less forgiving than Durant, et al, but I find it’s as hard to view many of history’s philosophers (other than natural philosophers) as much less harmful than many of history’s theologians. Plato thru the Continentals particular.

    But I’d love to recieve an ‘adjustment’ of that opinion if possible πŸ˜‰

    Reply addressees: @SRCHicks


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-13 22:48:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657518095336964103

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657385240430800896

  • I have to be careful because I can’t tell the diffrence between someone posing n

    I have to be careful because I can’t tell the diffrence between someone posing nonsense and someone that knows what he’s talking about. πŸ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-13 19:40:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657470768958124032

    Reply addressees: @peanutweanut666

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657470210750963712

  • Q: WHY IS LEARNING P-LAW HARD – OR AT LEAST TIME CONSUMING? (Putting Learning Ou

    Q: WHY IS LEARNING P-LAW HARD – OR AT LEAST TIME CONSUMING?
    (Putting Learning Our Work in P-Law Into Context.)

    “You follow @Whatifalthist to learn and identify the What. You follow us to learn how the How, and to prove he is right, and so are we.”

    Imagine that you’re trying to learn the whole series of formal logic, programming, basic physics, basic cognitive science, linguistics, the series of behavioral, micro, macro economics, comparative law, and comparative civilization.

    We identify the common pattern across all those disciiplines which makes each of them easier to undrstand. But you need at least a basic understanding of all of them to know what the terms mean.

    You learn it by doing it. It takes a couple of years of effort. Some people naturally understand it faster and some slower. More life experience in a broader range of contexts helps. More knowledge of at least one science helps. And a predisposition to prefer the truth regardless of how we feel about it matters at least as much. But with work, most people can do some or all of it.

    In fact, our evidence is that almost anyone can memorize and learn and apply the ethics and morality with relative ease, and with a little more effort learn the sex differences in cognition, and the sex differences in lying – and between ethics and sex differences that’s much of what most people want to know to understand the social and political world we live in.

    So we are creating a set of posters that contain the ‘laws of nature’ so to speak. And once you are familiar with the material, these posters, show how everything is incrementally constructed from physics to behavior to culture to language (to lying and cheating and stealing). So we are in process of producing what we call the “Pamphlet” that reduces everything to that shorthand. Until we show people that outline we won’t know how muc more detail is necessary since the logic in that outline is pretty obvious.

    The underlying methodology is trivially simple: continuous recursive disambiguation of terms into a series of ordinal measurements. Continuous recursive disambiguation of all disciplines into a hierarchy of first principles of causality. At every level of emergence of new possibiliteis – meaning each discipline – we list the new properties and operations that are avilable. Each is a grammatical, and vocabular ‘paradigm’. We organize these paradigms from most precise (deflated) to most imprecise (inflated). This produces a higerarchy of grammatical (ordinal) logic just like the mathematical hierarcy of complexity. We call this system of logic the grammars. Then we compose proofs of construction from those first principles, and described by those terms, in the context of those paradgms. In other words we UNIFIY ALL THE SCIENCES AND LOGICS INTO ONE.

    These underlying rules of logic of what we do can be memorized. Why? There are only so many principles involved. Twenty something principles in ternary logic of evolutionary computation from physics to civilizational differences, and then and sex differences, behavioral acquisitionism, demonstrated interests, the logic of cooperation, or reciprocity, of truth, the european (natural) group evolutionary strategy, and perfect (scientific) government.

    So it might be easier to describe what we do as a ‘new math’ that uses terms as constrained variables, and that describes all behavior across all disciplines. As such it’s a bit like studying mathematics from arithmetic to analysis – except we use terms that are meaningful rather than abstract.

    And if you watch what our people write, it’s essentially equations using terms (ordinal) instead of numbers (cardinal).

    So while it’s technically computation, in the end it’s is much more like math and physics than philosophy

    Cheers.

    Reply addressees: @BlakeAn77455669


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-13 17:59:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657445426293817346

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657401692738953216

  • RT @anderstegn: @LukeWeinhagen @curtdoolittle What they mean is: “What is your a

    RT @anderstegn: @LukeWeinhagen @curtdoolittle What they mean is: “What is your authority to back it up?”. The question they should receive…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-13 17:15:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657434331571167234