Theme: Truth

  • The Function of Propertarian Grammar

    THE FUNCTION OF PROPERTARIAN GRAMMAR by James Augustus With out factoring in IQ, most humans cannot (or struggle to) separate/deflate intuited self-interest (the elephant) from their perception (solipsism) โ€”which is to say that the average human struggles to launder imaginary content from cognition and so they approach truthfulness as a function of rationalizing intuition. Those with masculinized, autistic brains benefit from the decreased cost of laundering imagination & emotional content from our perception, and reporting/testimony thereof. And (we) see the flaws (cognitive biases) in our thinking and especially in the testimony of others. And because of our ‘awareness’, we find it necessary to perform ‘test’/criticisms across multiple dimensions. Propertarian grammar boils down to just thatโ€”it limits us to constructing arguments that are open to criticism across multiple dimensions: terms/categories, logic, existential possibility, parsimony, full accounting, empirical correspondence, & reciprocity (natural law/social science). (Note: A person’s/group epistemological methodology [literary, hermeneutic, mythological, occultist, theological, rationalist, pseudo scientific, asymmetrical empiricism] is most often derivative of the lies they seek to tell.)

  • Your Method Tells Us Your Strategy

    YOUR METHODOLOGY TELLS US YOUR IQ AND EVOLUTIONARY STRATEGY by James Augustus —“A person’s/group epistemological methodology [literary, hermeneutic, mythological, occultist, theological, rationalist, pseudo scientific, asymmetrical empiricism] is most often derivative of the lies they seek to tell.”— James Augustus

  • Your Method Tells Us Your Strategy

    YOUR METHODOLOGY TELLS US YOUR IQ AND EVOLUTIONARY STRATEGY by James Augustus —“A person’s/group epistemological methodology [literary, hermeneutic, mythological, occultist, theological, rationalist, pseudo scientific, asymmetrical empiricism] is most often derivative of the lies they seek to tell.”— James Augustus

  • YOUR METHODOLOGY TELLS US YOUR IQ AND EVOLUTIONARY STRATEGY by James Augustus —

    YOUR METHODOLOGY TELLS US YOUR IQ AND EVOLUTIONARY STRATEGY

    by James Augustus

    —“A person’s/group epistemological methodology [literary, hermeneutic, mythological, occultist, theological, rationalist, pseudo scientific, asymmetrical empiricism] is most often derivative of the lies they seek to tell.”— James Augustus


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-16 15:53:00 UTC

  • chinese are … different about the truth

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/778367/China-illrgal-law-insult-heroes-martyrs-Communist-PartyThe chinese are … different about the truth.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-13 23:21:00 UTC

  • SERIES: “COHERENCE, JUDGEMENT, TRUTH” Bill, (All), I had to think about this ove

    SERIES: “COHERENCE, JUDGEMENT, TRUTH”

    Bill, (All),

    I had to think about this overnight, but I think you’ve given me a way to speak about the difference between:

    – internal coherence (decidability in pursuit of preferences)

    – and judgement (decidability in resolution of conflict).

    And I am going to have to incorporate the three factors somehow:

    1) competitive utility of personal and cooperative rallying to social opportunity (coherence)

    2) competitive utility of decidability in cross preference conflict (judgement)

    3) competitive utility of physical transformation (truth)

    Even if by ‘competitive utility’ i’m referring to the anything between the red queen (evolution-nature outside of present), Time(scarcity in the present), survival, reproductive success, social success, and economic success, and personal fulfillment.

    I have had a very hard time finding a way of expressing this and I think between your statement and my understanding of peterson’s ‘literary and platonic’ I think I’m getting closer. And I think these are the three categories in the series of decidability.

    THREE SERIES OF INCREASING PRECISION

    Coherence > Judgement > Truth

    Literature > Law > Science

    Ideation > Decision > Action

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-13 12:50:00 UTC

  • (from elsewhere) (Note: this fellow, is calling me a pompous, illiterate, autist

    (from elsewhere)

    (Note: this fellow, is calling me a pompous, illiterate, autist. -And I’m offended by the false accusation of illiteracy- But the truthful criticism of my ‘research through prosecution’ is that it’s a violation of reciprocity that we currently assume in our culture of discourse and debate. I use people to conduct tests. Usually against their will. And the reason is that it’s the only way to get demonstrated behavior rather than reported behavior. Anyway, my immorality in pursuit of moral ends aside, and the continued success of this admittedly duplicitous investigatory technique aside, this serves as a record of my technique:

    1 – Look for opportunity to test arguments

    2 – Construct a ‘truthful’ criticism that will bait an argument.

    3 – If you get an engagement in the argument you have found someone intellectually honest enough to continue investigation with.

    4 – Most commonly you will be subject to attacks rather than the argument. Most people are not intellectually honest. Nor do they possess sufficient agency to question their own frames.

    5 – Prosecute the individual’s argument by attempting to force the other person to draw his own honest, correct, and position-changing conclusion. (This is the hard part. Don’t tell them the answer. Get them to draw it themselves.)

    5a – Answer any ridicule with (truthful) accusation of his incentives. The purpose here is to neutralize the adhom’s, and exhaust the emotion.

    5b – Return to the central question by repeating it. We succeed and inform through repetition in ways that even the most well reasoned statements cannot. In addition, the argument doesn’t get lost or distracted from. And moreover, those following the argument are educated through repetition. You will find that repetition succeeds where no other method can. I suggest reprahsing the central argument very slightly each time if you can do so creatively. (which is an art in itself).

    5c – Try to connect it with the moral responsibility for preservation of the informational commons. Insinuate his immorality and if possible, ask why the individual is immoral for not doing due diligence in preservation of the informational commons. OR Try to connect it with why he needs to appeal to false authority rathe than simply providing institutional means for voluntary exchanges.

    6 – just keep iterating (5) above until the emotion is exhausted and his attempts at avoidance are exhausted. It does not matter what conclusion he comes to in the moment. What matters is whether you have influence him a little – or the audience. People are just vehicles for educating the audience, and discovering candidates who themselves might be able to conduct operational arguments.

    )

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    ….Interesting that you would call me illiterate.

    Pompous (actually it’s arrogant), Autism (actually it’s the practice of deflationary truth), and Parasitic (taking advantage of other’s conversations to run experiments) are all true.

    The theory remains: book choices (like cites) function as ability, personality, moral, and evolutionary strategy surveys in ways that self reporting does not. (it is hard to argue with this as evidence of demonstrated preference)

    The central argument remains: of all the books one would choose why does one choose a higher proportion of those that justify postwar moralizing, rather than prewar struggle? (demonstrated preference, paradigm adherence)

    If you want to attack the argument that’s very different from attacking the arguer. If attacking the argument is beyond you (this is how I taunt the persistence of the argument) then thats moral, but by attacking the arguer, that’s immoral.

    If your philosophical position (mine) seeks to test the costs of and means of policing the commons against error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, propaganda, and deceit; and if your effort in developing your philosophical position requires testing..

    You see, while debate consists of reciprocal exchanges in pursuit of reciprocal meaning, I do not pursue the act of *prosecution* under the assumption of equality or reciprocity, but instead as a social scientist conducting experiments. In other words, I *use* people like you to run tests (which I’ve been stating openly since 2012 and where my first public experiment was against Kinsella, in which he failed gloriously ). Like fighting, like mathematics, like programming the only way to develop the skill is to practice it.

    I teach people this technique as a means of defeating error, bias, and deceit. For example: https://www.facebook.com/curt.doolittle/posts/10155118766937264

    So by retaining your position of attacking the person rather than the argument you learn nothing, and merely demonstrate that I am correct: that reason is insufficient and therefore the informational commons CAN ONLY be defended from pollution (harm) by the demand for warranty of due diligence.

    You see, what you consider ‘autistic’ is an attempt to create a formal logic that can be incorporated into law, and that will survive constant challenges from critics during legal conflicts.

    So there is no ‘room’ per se, for conflationary experience and analogy that we seek in ‘meaning’, in the demand for deflationary truth that we seek to provide means of decidability (dispute resolution) across networks of meaning.

    There is a very deliberate method to my ‘madness’. And strangely, the fact that I’m open about it, does nothing to change the reaction to it.

    Compare this current ‘educational’ post (comment), with previous ‘prosecutorial’ comments. In this post I’m explaining to you what I am doing and why. In the previous posts I was prosecuting you. This is because in previous posts you were attacking me rather than the argument, and doing so without asking WHY?

    So, now that I have been forthcoming with my experiment upon you, in closing, we are left with a few questions:

    1) Why didn’t you take the original post, labeled in all caps with the word ‘criticism’, as simply information? And ask WHY?

    2) Why did you fall prey to the common criticism of me rather than investigate the tactics?

    4) Who is more pompous illiterate and myopically attached to priors?

    (And, humorously, why would you fail to categorize your book list by theory of man’s nature, and theory of western civilization as I’d proposed – which would demonstrate that I’d been correct in the original post?)

    Thanks for letting me play in your sandbox, and use your involuntarily given test results for the education of myself and others.

    We are all victims of cognitive bias.

    Cheers.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-13 10:05:00 UTC

  • William Butchman (et all), This claim of Peterson’s is where he’s going wrong by

    William Butchman (et all),

    This claim of Peterson’s is where he’s going wrong by trying to justify his priors.

    Yes, we can imagine and experience the world consisting of various combinations of objects, properties, relations, transformations, and values.

    Yes we can develop our own mental models out of those arrangements (philosophies). Yes we can seek or create an existence in which we comfortably role play with others. Yes we can seek to produce social environments that achieve these ends.

    Yes we can attempt to accomplish this “private construction of personal reality”, “interpersonal construction of interpersonal reality”, and “Social Construction of social reality”, and even political and institutional construction of political reality.

    Yes we can construct these sets of objects, properties, relations, transformations, and values out of dream state experiences, supernatural, mythical, literary, extra-rational (pseudorational, pseudoscientific), historical(existential analogical), and various minimalist (scientific) narratives by which we construct explanations of causal relations making use of our objects, properties, relations, transformations (actions), and values.

    Yes we can perform ideation (envision possibilities for additional desirable experiences) using each of these methods, and navigate through life by these different narratives.

    Yes, the ‘cost’ of more parsimonious (minimalist, and deflationary) is higher in rational (autistic) terms and provides lower experiential (solipsistic) returns.

    Yes, the most able can choose ANY of these methods by which to obtain satisfaction, and yes, the less able require increasingly experiential means, and yes the better able are more able to obtain by less experiential means. And yes, while the most expensive, the most demanding, and perhaps the most rewarding is a portfolio : a combination of solipsistic (rich) experiences, along with autistic (parsimonious) understanding of them.

    And Yes the negative consequences of those narratives consisting of the Dream state, occult, supernatural, mythic, literary, pseudorational, pseudoscientific, socially constructed, can be mitigated by sufficient historical (scientific), narratives (explanations).

    BUT…

    1) the material opportunities that arise from them empirically demonstrate that increasing precision, increasing correspondence, therefore increasingly deflationary and minimalist, and therefore more historical narratives, are far higher than all other methods combined.

    2) that in matters of conflict people will grant priority to physical safety, opportunity, and comfort; kin safety, opportunity, and comfort; material safety, opportunity and comfort; psychological safety, opportunity, and comfort, normative safety, opportunity and comfort, and institutional safety, opportunity, and comfort in precisely that order. And therefore they demonstrate the superiority of the material in fact as far as they can, then demonstrate status and reputation and self worth, then demonstrate the psychological as far as they can. And all seeming exceptions, under scrutiny will eventually fall to this explanation: costs to them.

    3) the function of the darwinian (historical, scientific, minimalist) model is to provide decidability ACROSS those narratives when we need them, and WITHIN those narratives if we choose to need them. In other words, darwinian (scientific) world-views, just like religion in the past, allow us to cooperate at larger scales across those narratives, making use of the range of people and range of experiences that those narratives can provide us with, while at the same time providing decidability across and between people making use of such narratives.

    Group Strategy > Religion > Literature > Philosophy > Science > Law.

    It is in the resolution of our disputes in law and war, and the preservation of non-retaliatory peace post-conflict that we define what is true. It is in the resolution of our disputes in all narrative structures that funnels down, over time, into every greater precision, leaving science (the most parsimonious, deflationary truth) that we ever-drive ourselves toward correspondence with reality no matter how undesirable. Because while we may seek cheap comforts of the mind, we will always fight expensively for material reality that allows us to preserve those fantasies.

    4) since those narratives are profoundly easy to use to conduct frauds, deceits, manipulations, defeats, and conquests, we can use the parsimonious, minimalist, scientific, historical to analyze (criticize) propositions within and across these models.

    And since the great challenges of our ancient world (monotheistic deceit), and the great challenges of the present world ( cosmopolitan pseudoscience, and pseudorationalism, and puritan pseudo moralism, and outright lying ) stem from our failure to develop both the methods of providing decidability (truth) across those new more advanced deceits (pseudorationalism, pseudoscience, and propaganda), and the institutional means of preventing such deceits (law), then we are in greater demand for deflationary, minmalist, historical (evidentiary, existential) means of decidability – that which Peterson calls “Darwinian”.

    Ergo as the diversity of narrative, diversity of developmental range, role in group, class, trades, and specialization increases, the demand for decidability across them increases.

    5) Darwinian judgement in particular tells us of the long term, unintended consequences of accumulated short term actions. It does not tell us our limitations. It explains why we engage in error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, obscurantism, pseudorationalism, pseudosicence, literary loading, framing, and overloading; propaganda, and outright deceit – for darwinian ends.

    CLOSING

    We generate opportunities with richly conflated narration, and we generate decidability with minimalist, deflationary truth.

    That is the difference between the good (desirable) within any context and the true (decidable) across any and all contexts.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-12 22:35:00 UTC

  • THE STRATEGY FOR OPPOSING FRAUDS IS A COSTLY INVESTMENT IN THE PRESERVATION OF T

    THE STRATEGY FOR OPPOSING FRAUDS IS A COSTLY INVESTMENT IN THE PRESERVATION OF THE INFORMATIONAL COMMONS.

    I teach everyone the same strategy:

    1) return ridicule or criticism,

    2) restate the central argument

    3) pose why the deception is necessary if one is correct.

    4) repeat until the audience is numb to the rallying shaming and other emotional distractions, and has absorbed the central argument through repetition.

    Ergo, (in response to ad hom)

    1) you’re a poser, and a liar, and a fraud, and can’t address the central argument.

    2) The central argument that heterodox views are disproportionately expensive if not impossible to obtain citations in orthodox distribution channels. And that this problem is endemic to all market-driven (customer seeking) platforms.

    3) That you have been engaging in distraction and shaming rather than addressing the central question (despite the variety of forms I’ve presented it in) and that you’re demonstrating exactly the infantilized behavior I accuse you of as a means of avoiding the fact that if you DID address that question you would lose face.

    4) I am happy to continue to demonstrate how you and other libertarians use marxist and feminist argument (rallying, shaming, and avoidance) as a means of defending your pseudoscientific contra-rational malinvestment in a failed cult. It’s for the good of mankind.

    See how that works? See?

    Feminine rallying and shaming is predicated on the cheapness of those arguments, the expense of repeating the central argument, and the intuitionistic emotional reaction of infantilized audiences.

    However, through repetition we achieve what we cannot achieve through a single reasoned argument.

    And this is why it is so valuable to play losers like you as suckers.

    To demonstrate the success of the technique if you are willing to pay the cost of pursuing it – just as we pay high costs of altruistic punishment in all OTHER walks of life.

    The informational commons must be protected just as all other commons are protected, if we are to crush the criminal left, and the infantile regardless of affiliation.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-12 11:04:00 UTC

  • ) While there are certainly good books on this list, the vast majority are produ

    http://propertarianism.com/reading-list/CRITICISM ๐Ÿ˜‰

    While there are certainly good books on this list, the vast majority are produced under Critical Theory (“Critique”) rather than the reason by which the west dragged mankind kicking and screaming out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, starvation, disease, and tyranny – we did it for fun and profit.

    If I cross the dependence upon Critical Theory off the list, and preserve the dependence upon the Domestication of Man, we will have a much smaller list.

    I won’t get into the Personal Signaling involved or the Group Evolutionary Strategies involved, but I am not sure why any group of intellectuals would embrace critical theory except for signaling (status seeking) purposes under the pretense of intelligence and insight.

    We did not drag man kicking and screaming into modernity for moral reasons. We did it for profit. And it just so happens that our method of profit produced moral ends.

    We domesticated mankind by aggressively killing off the underclass just as did the east asians, and doing so by manorialism, aggressive hanging, ostracization, disease, and war.

    The west evolved faster than the rest by cultural biases we barely understand, and the culling of the terrible drag underclasses place on civilizations.

    Conversely, the civilizations having the greatest trouble with modernity are those with undomesticated, un-culled, underclasses. The reason being quite simple: the benefit of people above average is about 1/6 the cost of each person below average. It’s not complicated. it’s just math.

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    The Romanist Contrarian Chronicle

    The Romanist Contrarian Chronicle What on earth did I just read, why does it have basically nothing to do with the actual list (most of the books are critical theory? Dafuq?) and since when does Curt Doolittle follow this page?

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    Curt Doolittle

    (I collect book lists, for use in comparison of underlying assumptions (biases, priors) and someone forwarded it to me, so I followed your page.)

    Critical theory rests on an extension of the assumption of the Rousseauian vision of man as oppressed, and offers a criticism of western civilization from that assumption. All works of historical reference can be divided by the assumptions of the authors notion of mans nature and the possibility of action.

    These assumptions can be categorized as the fallen angel vs risen beast; or dionysian vs apollonian; or Whig History vs Rousseauian; or Critical Theory vs Western Heroic Tradition; dysgenic advocacy vs Eugenic advocacy; or any other variation on the theme.

    In reviewing your list there are a disproportionate number of fallen angel, dionysian, rousseauian, critical theorist, dysgenicist works.

    From what I can gather, it appears that the sentimental bias of this group is optimistic and romantic in the literary continental enlightenment tradition, and preserving individualism.

    We can work with meaning, method of argument, persuasion or discourse, or the underlying assumptions that meaning and method rely upon. By weighing the choices in the book list it’s rather obvious that the assumtpions, meaning, and method, are what they are.

    This form of ‘survey’ is usually the most objective method of determining the political, moral, ethical, and personal biases of individuals and groups.

    You probably don’t care but if someone finds this level of discourse interesting, its always worth a few words.

    Why is it that of available books, one chooses the books one does?

    (Its fascinating actually. because we self report very differently than we demonstrate.)

    -Cheers

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    The Romanist Contrarian Chronicle

    The Romanist Contrarian Chronicle Like, you’re just so off the mark that its almost impossible to dispute your assumptions/interpretations because they feel like they’re being pulled out of thin air rather than an actual read through of the list. I’m just going to go ahead and assume you aren’t familiar with most of the books here if you think they’re mostly critical theory. Because objectively, that just isn’t true. Most of them don’t even deal with the question of oppression vs glorious rise or whatever your associate with critical theory.

    But its fascinating to have direct confirmation of everything I’ve ever heard about you. =)

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    Curt Doolittle

    So you mean you don’t understand the point I was making, right? Because you clearly didn’t reference anything I said other than the original anchor. So, It’s not that I’m off the mark. It’s that we lack sufficient common ground for the discussion.

    Easy experiment: take the first 16 books. For each book what is the statement it is making about western civilization? Given the number of positions and books written in that period, why would one choose those topics rather than the other topics that are available? Now, compare those with the books written prewar on the same subject. What’s the distribution of underlying theories?

    That requires a good bit more knowledge than you possess I’m quite certain, but you can at least take a shot at it.

    Here is my reading list. Look at the difference in the lists and the arguments.

    http://propertarianism.com/reading-list/

    Look at every faction’s reading list. Look at the form of arguments those books make.

    Learn something that isn’t in the books, but is only visible by looking at the assumptions, methods of arguments that they are made in each book in relation to other books.

    CLOSING

    I go hunting for people. I find them. They find me. That’s the reason I do these things.

    That’s why I collect the followers I do, and others the followers they do.

    if you cannot make a strictly constructed argument in operational language and grammar and demonstrate consistency in every dimension, then you can’t follow the work, just like some people can’t follow the calculus, or programming languages.

    It’s OK to go separate ways. But the only way for me to find people of that capacity is to ask questions in a structure that those people will understand and others wont.

    But I can’t just let you get away with demonstrated incomprehension as if it’s my fault. That’s allowing you to lie in order to cover up your incomprehension. ๐Ÿ˜‰ I”m not an apologist for the pretense of knowledge. That’s not my job. Truth is.

    And that right there is what truth is all about…. Decidability independent of frames of reference.

    Cheers. ๐Ÿ˜‰


    Source date (UTC): 2017-03-11 19:19:00 UTC