Theme: Subsidy

  • False: Krugman Gets It Wrong On Purpose Again. 🙂

    FALSEConservatives and Sewars – The NYT 1) It doesn’t follow that a one time expense, followed by fees for use is the same as redistribution that creates dependencies. the first requires action, the second does not. THe free-rider problem is different from the progressive-fees problem. Free riding is a negative signal that says free riding is a ‘right’, progressive fees illustrate that this is not a ‘right’, but a ‘charity’. This sends ‘truthful’ signals to both parties. And truthful signals are necessary to prohibit involuntary transfers. 2) It doesn’t follow that investment in a commons is the same as state-mandated redistribution. If that was true, there wouldn’t be factories, universities, churches and roads. 3) It doesn’t follow that investment in a universal commons is not conservative. Only that to do so out of charity at a cost, is different than to do so out of opportunity for profit. 4) it doesn’t follow that taxes must be levied other than fees. (They don’t need to be.) 5) It doesn’t follow that taxes should be put into a general pool and open to use OTHER than the purpose levied. (they shouldn’t) 6) It doesn’t follow that the monopolistic state is more efficient than competitive private administration (it’s not) 7) It doesn’t follow that funding the bureaucracy doesn’t produce externalities that are of intolerable cost. (it does – one of which is forcing us to spend time defending ourselves against other people’s political movements, as they seek to control the predatory state) [C]onservatism is a metaphorical language. Conservatives have one ‘curse word’ with multiple meanings: “Socialism” – state control of property and production and b) “Democratic redistributive socialism” – state ownership of the proceeds from limited private control of property. This ‘curse word’ is a catch-all for ‘those people that use the state to destroy aristocratic individualism and the status signals that I get from individualism regardless of my rank. And this is important. Conservatives do not feel victims because they obtain positive status signals from other conservatives regardless of their economic rank. This is obtainable in human societies only through religious conformity and it’s consequences, or economic conformity and its consequences. Conservatives do not object to investment in the commons. Conservatism places higher value on delaying gratification than immediate gratification – the formation of moral capital – which is an inarticulate expression meaning training human beings to enforce a prohibition on involuntary transfers of all kinds. Conservatism is the argument that we should not fund the expansionary bureaucratic state that out of deterministic necessity subverts our property rights and therefore our freedom, and therefore our ‘character’ – a euphemism for the prohibition on involuntary transfers of all kinds – because it is our universal prohibition on involuntary transfers both within our families and tribes and without, that is the source of western exceptionalism: the high trust society. Our high trust society is unique because we CAN trust others to avoid involuntary transfers, because of the pervasive prohibition on involuntary transfer that we developed under Manorailism by demonstrating fitness needed to obtain land to rent. Partly as a rebellion against the Catholic Church, partly because the church forbid cousin marriage and granted women property rights, in order to break up the tribes and large land holding families. Partly as an ancient indo-european tradition of personal sovereignty in the nobility, which became a status signal, and, thankfully remains a status signal in conservatives. Small homogenous polities are redistributive. Large heterogeneous polities are not. This is because trust DECLINES in heterogeneous polities. And trust DECLINES in heterogeneous polities because of the different signals used by different groups, and the fact that signals in-group are ‘cheaper’ (discounted) that signals across groups with differing signals. A strong state in a small homogenous polity that functions as an extended family and therefore with high redistribution, is entirely possible. But by creating a powerful state in a heterogeneous polity, it becomes necessary and useful for people to compete via extra-market means using the state by seeking redistributions and limited monopoly (legal) rights in order to advance their signaling strategy. (Which is what Dr. Krugman does, daily – advance an alternative strategy. A strategy that he does not recognize is from the Ghetto. And would cause a return to the low trust society. And **IS*** right now, causing a return to the low trust society. Because the low trust society is natural to man. Thats why it exists everywhere but the aristocratic west.

  • STOPPING THE BIG DOMINOS Of course, we would argue that the problem is actually

    http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2013/06/keeping-big-dominoes-from-falling.html#.UbCbZitp4w0INTERVENTION: STOPPING THE BIG DOMINOS

    Of course, we would argue that the problem is actually allowing the small dominos to constantly fall. Government creates big dominos. The market works constantly to destroy them.

    GOVERNMENT CREATES BIG DOMINOS – AND THE BIGGEST IS ITSELF.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-06-07 04:25:00 UTC

  • THE MARKET PUNISHES IRRESPONSIBILITY. THE GOVERNMENT REWARDS IT

    THE MARKET PUNISHES IRRESPONSIBILITY. THE GOVERNMENT REWARDS IT.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-05-30 23:30:00 UTC

  • The other, less vainglorious argument, is that the public views expansion of tax

    The other, less vainglorious argument, is that the public views expansion of taxation and redistribution, whether between cultures in the USA, or between cultures in Europe, as having passed a tipping point, and that the politicians in both countries understand which is more dangerous to them.

    I think your argument is correct but irrelevant. I think my argument is also correct, and the one answer that is relevant.

    If you want democracy, you’re going to get democratic results. This is one of them.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-04-17 10:43:00 UTC

  • Values And Principles: Should The Us Government Have The Power To Tax One Group In Order To Help Another?

    all commons are redistribution. The question is whether the comons that we contribute to create either hazards, perverse incentives, and free-riding. 

    There has been an organized effort for the beter part of a century, to support rather than avoid free riding, and penalize the middle class to fund reproduction by the lower classes.

    Redistribution is probably EARNED if you adhere to manners, ethics, morals and laws – albiet the argument is too complex for this post.    If you do not adhere of manners, ethics morals and laws, it is very hard to argue that you have earned any form of redistribution.

    https://www.quora.com/Values-and-Principles-Should-the-US-government-have-the-power-to-tax-one-group-in-order-to-help-another

  • CICERO 55bc?) “The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, p

    CICERO 55bc?)

    “The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed – lest rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”

    Not legit at all:

    The quote actually originated in A Pillar of Iron (1965), Taylor Caldwell’s fictionalized account of the life of the senator, on page 483.

    But I love this nonsense anyway. 🙂


    Source date (UTC): 2013-04-01 14:32:00 UTC

  • 1) It doesn’t follow that a one time expense, followed by fees for use is the sa

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/15/conservatives-and-sewers/?smid=fb-shareFALSE

    1) It doesn’t follow that a one time expense, followed by fees for use is the same as redistribution that creates dependencies. the first requires action, the second does not. THe free-rider problem is different from the progressive-fees problem. Free riding is a negative signal that says free riding is a ‘right’, progressive fees illustrate that this is not a ‘right’, but a ‘charity’. This sends ‘truthful’ signals to both parties. And truthful signals are necessary to prohibit involuntary transfers.

    2) It doesn’t follow that investment in a commons is the same as state-mandated redistribution. If that was true, there wouldn’t be factories, universities, churches and roads.

    3) It doesn’t follow that investment in a universal commons is not conservative. Only that to do so out of charity at a cost, is different than to do so out of opportunity for profit.

    4) it doesn’t follow that taxes must be levied other than fees. (They don’t need to be.)

    5) It doesn’t follow that taxes should be put into a general pool and open to use OTHER than the purpose levied. (they shouldn’t)

    6) It doesn’t follow that the monopolistic state is more efficient than competitive private administration (it’s not)

    7) It doesn’t follow that funding the bureaucracy doesn’t produce externalities that are of intolerable cost. (it does – one of which is forcing us to spend time defending ourselves against other people’s political movements, as they seek to control the predatory state)

    Conservatism is a metaphorical language. Conservatives have one ‘curse word’ with multiple meanings: “Socialism” – state control of property and production and b) “Democratic redistributive socialism” – state ownership of the proceeds from limited private control of property. This ‘curse word’ is a catch-all for ‘those people that use the state to destroy aristocratic individualism and the status signals that I get from individualism regardless of my rank. And this is important. Conservatives do not feel victims because they obtain positive status signals from other conservatives regardless of their economic rank. This is obtainable in human societies only through religious conformity and it’s consequences, or economic conformity and its consequences.

    Conservatives do not object to investment in the commons. Conservatism places higher value on delaying gratification than immediate gratification – the formation of moral capital – which is an inarticulate expression meaning training human beings to enforce a prohibition on involuntary transfers of all kinds.

    Conservatism is the argument that we should not fund the expansionary bureaucratic state that out of deterministic necessity subverts our property rights and therefore our freedom, and therefore our ‘character’ – a euphemism for the prohibition on involuntary transfers of all kinds – because it is our universal prohibition on involuntary transfers both within our families and tribes and without, that is the source of western exceptionalism: the high trust society.

    Our high trust society is unique because we CAN trust others to avoid involuntary transfers, because of the pervasive prohibition on involuntary transfer that we developed under Manorailism by demonstrating fitness needed to obtain land to rent. Partly as a rebellion against the Catholic Church, partly because the church forbid cousin marriage and granted women property rights, in order to break up the tribes and large land holding families. Partly as an ancient indo-european tradition of personal sovereignty in the nobility, which became a status signal, and, thankfully remains a status signal in conservatives.

    Small homogenous polities are redistributive. Large heterogeneous polities are not. This is because trust DECLINES in heterogeneous polities. And trust DECLINES in heterogeneous polities because of the different signals used by different groups, and the fact that signals in-group are ‘cheaper’ (discounted) that signals across groups with differing signals. A strong state in a small homogenous polity that functions as an extended family and therefore with high redistribution, is entirely possible. But by creating a powerful state in a heterogeneous polity, it becomes necessary and useful for people to compete via extra-market means using the state by seeking redistributions and limited monopoly (legal) rights in order to advance their signaling strategy. (Which is what Dr. Krugman does, daily – advance an alternative strategy. A strategy that he does not recognize is from the Ghetto. And would cause a return to the low trust society. And **IS*** right now, causing a return to the low trust society.

    Because the low trust society is natural to man. Thats why it exists everywhere but the aristocratic west.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-03-16 01:26:00 UTC

  • “The rich have a moral duty and obligation to help ‘the poor’ ‘better’ themselve

    “The rich have a moral duty and obligation to help ‘the poor’ ‘better’ themselves whether the poor want the help or not.”

    Um. Redistribution isn’t bettering anyone. “Better” is a description of behavior, not state.


    Source date (UTC): 2013-02-16 13:45:00 UTC

  • 47% OR IS IT 74%? I love that this issue is getting popularized. This article tr

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-47-percent/2012/09/21/57dc7bbe-0341-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_story.htmlTHE 47% OR IS IT 74%?

    I love that this issue is getting popularized. This article tries to debunk a few myths but misses out on a few important and related statistics:

    a) something close to 74% of people join the tax paying majority at some point in their lives. The young, immigrants and the old of course, are not. The people of productive age of course are. So, it’s true that at any given point less than half of americans pay taxes. But that’s not the same thing as saying that more than half of them will become, or have been, taxpayers.

    b) The 1% consists largely of people who are in that 1% for only one or two years – people who make windfalls.

    c) About 12% of americans actually qualify as ‘poor’. The rest are either recent immigrants, young or old, and the remainder are those who have made poor reproductive decisions, or have other problems that leave them to the left of the curve.

    d) Any statistic that makes use of ‘household’ rather than individual numbers means the author is lying. The composition of the family has eroded so significantly since the sixties that any statistical comparison of households is irrelevant. We humans choose spatial independence at all costs. This means more smaller poorer households.


    Source date (UTC): 2012-09-23 16:34:00 UTC

  • How Sound Is The Process Of Providing Government Stimulus Based On Keynesian Economics In A Country With A Large Fiscal Deficit?

    Bertil Hatt answers the question correctly. But I think I”ll try to add an answer to WHY that trust is necessary.

    I tend to criticize Keynesian advocates daily, Krugman included, for arguing under the pretense that people do not understand the Keynesian model and the value of Keynesian stimulus.  It’s not that they don’t understand.  Its that the act of providing such a stimulus rewards and expands the government and its influence.  And the citizens have become polarized, into the the masculine hierarchcal model (conservative aristocracy) and the feminine communal model (social democracy), and no longer trust the government to spend in favor of all, but in favor of their cultural constituency.

    Small homogenous cultures tend to be redistributive.  One of the sillly myths, is that 350M americans of various value systems can be governed as are 10M northern european protestant germanics.  Majority rule assists us in selecting fiscal priorities when our interests and values are the same.  But as the values of a country become heterogeneous through immigration, or the breakdown of the nuclear family that allows women to return to their communal state of bearing children but asking others to pay for them, we render majority rule impossible. Because now we are not selecting priorities for the use of scarce resources, and generating laws to prevent privatization of those investment ‘commons’, but we are instead, generating laws to advance one system of moral codes at the expense of another, and using money from one group to achieve what is amoral to them.

    This is why democratic government is limited to homogenous cultural entities.  And why the market serves us across heterogeneous entities.  Our institutions of majority rule are not competent to solve this problem of heterogeneous values.

    So in a heterogeneous state, the Keynesian stimulus only works if the government can spend on investments that do not favor one constituency or another. And that is impossible.

    https://www.quora.com/How-sound-is-the-process-of-providing-government-stimulus-based-on-Keynesian-economics-in-a-country-with-a-large-fiscal-deficit