Theme: Sovereignty

  • CONVERSATION ON IMMIGRATION (just for record purposes) SAUL: But it’s advantageo

    CONVERSATION ON IMMIGRATION

    (just for record purposes)

    SAUL: But it’s advantageous for a state to have a process that is fast and efficient

    CURT: I think it is an advantage to have the most difficult process possible, with the only expediency education in a technical subject, and experience in the field.

    SAUL:If you have a system under which you can move around goods freely and cheaply while at the same time create great difficulties for moving around labor advanced countries will end up with what they are today: cheap goods and expensive labor. $5k dental visits. Great cars needing a minor repair junk yards. Outsourcing. Curt Doolittle living in Ukraine. And other undesirable consequences.

    CURT: Move capital and institutions to labor and thereby construct norms and institutions, do not move labor to capital and institutions and pay a cost in norms and institutions.

    SAUL: And this is where I think you got it wrong. Moving capital to labor does not create institutions, while moving labor to capital can assimilate labor according to the rules of the culture.

    CURT: That is only true if and only if one does not understand the content of those norms. All that is necessary to transform any country are 10,000 lawyers and an equal number of police. Why are we not exporing both instead of importing underclass dependent labor?

    SAUL: Don’t get me wrong, I wish more countries were like America. But it simply doesn’t work that way.

    CURT: (I kind of doubt that I am wrong since the evidence is overwhelmingly on my side. wink emoticon ) I don’t wish more countries were like america, Canada and Australia: land-privilege is not a particular bit of intelligence. It’s just luck

    (or conquest).

    SAUL: If you propose unachievable conditions for your argument to work it means it doesn’t work.

    CURT: It is not as important to achieve that end as it is to revise existing law such that costs are not born.

    SAUL: Yes 10000 lawyers and police and it would work. But you don’t have 10000 lawyers and police. And America has MILLIONS of immigrants EVERY YEAR. Most will assimilate seamlessly within our lifetime.

    CURT: Truth is truth in the sense that moral statements are objective. America has an overabundance of both and americans are natural judges and police. We have 1 lawyer for every 300 people and making lawyers since 1980 has become an industry. We can manufacture order-making on a grand scale. Because we DO IT ALREADY.

    SAUL: In the private sector. not so much in government

    CURT The probem is not sending 10000 lawyers to Ukraine. It’s Ukraine prohibiting 10000 lawyers and jusges. The single most advantagous thing a low trust country can invest in is american jurists and police.you want to radically change the world that’s how. And there is absolutely no reason why such things cannot be done. if others can send us MILLIONS of peasants, we can send the world THOUSANDS of jurists. You don’t build an airport or a judiciary by placing a help wanted ad, you hire a group of specialists to sytematically do it.

    SAUL: Low trust countries are poor. They don’t invest much, especially in American lawyers. America has a built-in magnet that brings peasants. Ukraine has no magnets to bring American lawyers. Lawyers are human beings, and highly paid ones. You can’t just push them around like cart wagons wherever you want.

    CURT: If ukraine set up a program to do that most developed nations would support it, and we could easily get 10k people here. Easily. We send millions of troops, americans overwhelmingly evangelize care around the world, and a law degree in america is no longer a key to an upper middle class lifestyle.

    SAUL: Besides, we tried it before. It’s called colonization. Not just lawyers but exporting all levels of government. Didn’t really work except that the colonized were a bit less fucked up than they are today.

    CURT: So yes, you can push whomever you want, because 10K legal people is about 1.5-6 billion. a year for 10 years to transform a nation from low trust to high trust. that is a trivial amount of money. Imagine the return on that investment in the establishment of consumer credit alone. They are already replacing all the police. They will soon replace the bureaucracy. Hell, for that amount of money I bet they could get credit since the people could even be paid by external entities. Colonization by common law WORKED EVERYWHERE. Even india.

    SAUL: “If Ukraine set up a program” do you realize that Ukraine will never set up such a program?

    CURT: So now we are to the crux of the matter.

    CURT: OK. Well now we are down to your subjective optionon, not a statement of whether such a program if instituted would be both a cheap (good) investment and would work to transform the country.

    We can import any technology we want.

    SAUL: of course it would work. in principle. provided that conditions that are next to impossible to meet are met

    CURT: OK. Well, then how do we raise the cost of NOT doing it?

    I mean, how could Ukraine refuse if with that came nearly unlimited banking and credit?


    Source date (UTC): 2015-09-05 08:49:00 UTC

  • FREE KOENIGSBERG, FREE UKRAINE !!!!! 😉

    FREE KOENIGSBERG, FREE UKRAINE !!!!!

    😉


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-25 02:50:00 UTC

  • Should We Stop ‘Dumb’ People from Voting?

    [T]he Monarchy (Hereditary self interest), The Nobility (Military Men Who Defend Territory), The Bourgeoisie/House (Business and Finance who produce Goods and Services), The Church/Proletarians (Dependents who require support). If each of these houses exists, those with related interests can vote for the advocacy of their interests (cultural persistence, military service and security, money and property, a need for commons), but regardless of the size of any constituency, all of them must agree; or at least none of them need object, to the provision of any contract between all (legislation). The error we made in voting was to dismantle the separation of houses in the belief we could construct an aristocracy of everyone, rather than adding a house for the proletarians upon the collapse of the church under darwin, and the consequential enfranchisement of women. We went from a system of TRADE between the classes (church, commons and lords) to a system of majoritarian tyranny. Today, single women and minorities rule, despite the fact that if married couples only voted, we would have remained a high trust homogenous society. All left movement, the destruction of the family, political correctness, the great society failure and the opening of our borders has been accomplished by the aggressive left, media and academy as an attack on western civilizations five thousand year tradition of incrementally suppressing parasitism and free riding, and the constant pressure of eugenic reproduction.

  • Should We Stop ‘Dumb’ People from Voting?

    [T]he Monarchy (Hereditary self interest), The Nobility (Military Men Who Defend Territory), The Bourgeoisie/House (Business and Finance who produce Goods and Services), The Church/Proletarians (Dependents who require support). If each of these houses exists, those with related interests can vote for the advocacy of their interests (cultural persistence, military service and security, money and property, a need for commons), but regardless of the size of any constituency, all of them must agree; or at least none of them need object, to the provision of any contract between all (legislation). The error we made in voting was to dismantle the separation of houses in the belief we could construct an aristocracy of everyone, rather than adding a house for the proletarians upon the collapse of the church under darwin, and the consequential enfranchisement of women. We went from a system of TRADE between the classes (church, commons and lords) to a system of majoritarian tyranny. Today, single women and minorities rule, despite the fact that if married couples only voted, we would have remained a high trust homogenous society. All left movement, the destruction of the family, political correctness, the great society failure and the opening of our borders has been accomplished by the aggressive left, media and academy as an attack on western civilizations five thousand year tradition of incrementally suppressing parasitism and free riding, and the constant pressure of eugenic reproduction.

  • REFUGEES ARE EVIDENCE OF THE FAILURE OF A GOVERNMENT AND AN INVITATION TO US TO

    REFUGEES ARE EVIDENCE OF THE FAILURE OF A GOVERNMENT AND AN INVITATION TO US TO RULE THEM


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-24 04:10:00 UTC

  • WE STOP DUMB PEOPLE FROM VOTING? The Monarchy (Hereditary self interest), The No

    http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2015/08/should-we-stop-dumb-people-from-voting.htmlSHOULD WE STOP DUMB PEOPLE FROM VOTING?

    The Monarchy (Hereditary self interest), The Nobility (Military Men Who Defend Territory), The Bourgeoisie/House (Business and Finance who produce Goods and Services), The Church/Proletarians (Dependents who require support). If each of these houses exists, those with related interests can vote for the advocacy of their interests (cultural persistence, military service and security, money and property, a need for commons), but regardless of the size of any constituency, all of them must agree; or at least none of them need object, to the provision of any contract between all (legislation). The error we made in voting was to dismantle the separation of houses in the belief we could construct an aristocracy of everyone, rather than adding a house for the proletarians upon the collapse of the church under darwin, and the consequential enfranchisement of women. We went from a system of TRADE between the classes (church, commons and lords) to a system of majoritarian tyranny. Today, single women and minorities rule, despite the fact that if married couples only voted, we would have remained a high trust homogenous society. All left movement, the destruction of the family, political correctness, the great society failure and the opening of our borders has been accomplished by the aggressive left, media and academy as an attack on western civilizations five thousand year tradition of incrementally suppressing parasitism and free riding, and the constant pressure of eugenic reproduction.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-17 16:07:00 UTC

  • **Liberty: Every man a craftsman. Every man a merchant. Every man an investor. E

    **Liberty: Every man a craftsman. Every man a merchant. Every man an investor. Every man a sheriff. Every man a Judge. Every man a Legislator. Every man a warrior. This is the only known means of constructing liberty.**


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-10 16:36:00 UTC

  • CHOKED WITH NEWS (DEPENDENCE) AND STARVED OF HISTORY(SOVEREIGNTY) –“We are chok

    CHOKED WITH NEWS (DEPENDENCE) AND STARVED OF HISTORY(SOVEREIGNTY)

    –“We are choked with news, and starved of history. We know a thousand items about the day or yesterday, we learn the events and troubles and heartbreaks of a hundred peoples, the policies and pretensions of a dozen capitals, the victories and defeats of causes, armies, athletic teams. But how, without history, can we understand these events, discriminate their significance, sift out the large from the small, see the basic currents underlying surface movements and changes, and foresee the result sufficiently to guard against fatal error or the souring of unreasonable hopes?

    May I give you a few examples of how history illuminates the present? After the wars of Caesar and Pompey in the last century before Christ, Rome emerged the only strong power in the white man’s world. Through that unchallenged supremacy she was able to give two centuries of peace to her vast realm, a Roman Empire stretching from Scotland to the Euphrates, from Gibraltar to the Caucasus. This was the famous Pax Romana; or Roman Peace – the greatest achievement in the history of statesmanship. Anyone knowing the history of Rome could have foreseen – some of us definitely predicted – that international affairs after this war would be more unstable, less pacific, than after the First World War, for the obvious reason that from this war two rival powers were emerging – the English-speaking powers supreme on the seas, and the power of Russia supreme on the European continent; two powers so dangerously balanced, and in such irritating contact on a dozen frontiers, that peace would be more difficult to organize than ever before. Even the statesmanship of an Augustus would hesitate to promise a Shangri-La of international accord in this jungle of conflicting interests and distrustful power.

    Or consider the origin of the great peoples and civilizations of history; how nearly every one of them began with the slow mixture of varied racial stocks entering from any direction into some conquered or inviting region, mixing their blood in marriage or otherwise, gradually producing a homogeneous people, and thereby creating, so to speak, the biological basis of a new civilization. So the Egyptians were formed of Ethiopians, Lybians, Arabs, Syrians, Mesopotamians; so the ancient Hebrews were the composite of their own various stocks, and of Canaanites, Edomites, Ammonites, Moabites, Hittites, and a dozen other peoples that swirled around the Euphrates, the Jordan, and the Orontes. It is not clear, in the perspective, that we Americans are in the stage of racial mixture, that we are not caught in the downward flow of Europe’s civilization, and that – Spengler to the contrary notwithstanding – our future lies before us? But that is an excellent place for a future to be.

    Or consider the revolutions that have taken place in history, in the routes of trade, and see what a light they shed upon out time. Most civilizations and cities rise along trade routes. First along rivers, for these are the natural , easiest routes of trade; so great cultures rose along the Nile, the Tigris, the Ganges, the Yellow River, the Tiber, Rhone, Loire, Seine, Thames, Elbe, Oder, Vistula, Dnieper, Danube, Volga, Don. Then, as hearts grew bolder and ships grew large, men sailed into the Mediterranean and the Black Sea, and squatted noisily along their shores, as Plato said, “like frogs croaking on the edge of a pond.” What made Greece was the perception of the early Greeks, or Achaeans, that if they could conquer Troy they would control the Dardanelles or Hellespont, and be able to send their merchant vessels without toll or hindrance through the Aegean into the Black Sea, and down the rivers of the Caucasus into Central Asia; in this way they would possess a trade route to Asia far cheaper and safer than the land route of the caravans that bound Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, and Persia over weary routes of mountain and desert infested with brigands. That dream of commercial power, and not Helen’s fair face, “launched a thousand ships” on Ilium, and brought Hector and Priam to Achille’s feet. Persia, part of the land route, challenged the victorious Greeks; and note how both Darius in 490, and Xerxes in 480 B.C., in their wars against Greece, moved first to take possession of the Dardanelles – just as a British fleet hovers there now, clinging to strategic Greece, and fearful that the Straits may suddenly be pounced upon by Russian armies lying a few leagues inland in Bulgaria. When Greece defeated Persia at Marathon and Salamis, she was left in control of the eastern Mediterranean and its trade; she blossomed like a flower, while the river cultures, locked to the land, decayed; and for two thousand years the Mediterranean was the home of the white man’s highest civilization.

    Why did the Mediterranean cease, with Michelangelo, about 1560, to dominate the commerce and politics of the world? Because Columbus had stumbled upon America, and had unwittingly opened new routes of trade, and new sources of wealth. Soon the Atlantic nations rose to power – Spain, Portugal, France, England, Holland; each prospered on the exploitation of colonies in America and Asia overseas; each financed in this way its magnificent Renaissance; while Italy, mistress of civilization for fifteen centuries, almost disappeared from history.”—


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-09 03:06:00 UTC

  • Risking one’s life is the price of entry into the aristocratic franchise. It alw

    Risking one’s life is the price of entry into the aristocratic franchise. It always has been. Until women got the vote.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-08-05 07:07:53 UTC

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  • You’re Demonstrably Incapable of Self-Rule if Your People are Running to the West

    YOU’RE DEMONSTRABLY INCAPABLE OF SELF RULE IF YOUR PEOPLE ARE RUNNING TO THE WEST. [E]ither fix your problem at home, hire us to fix it for you (it’s quite easy if you’re honest to fix a society). And if you do neither, out of defense, we must start a new program of colonization and modernization out of our own self-defense. It’s not our burden. It’s our defense.

    You have no right to externalize your failures. And we have no right to externalize our failures (democracy and equality)