Theme: Science

  • I REALLY DON’T LIKE THIS SUBJECT BUT…. There is a very great difference betwee

    I REALLY DON’T LIKE THIS SUBJECT BUT….

    There is a very great difference between:

    1 – Climate varies due to fairly predictable cycles which vary intensity largely by the distribution of water created by the organization of the land masses, the degree of volcanic activity, and the life cycle – and collision with random bodies.

    2 – We are affecting the climate because we are affecting the life cycle.

    3 – We might actually be able to affect it by a degree or two for a short time, but it’s hard to affect it for a long time.

    4 – We can get a few degrees out of this and the consequences might not be offset by the planet for a long time, but we can reverse it or stop it by nuclear power and of all things… planting freaking trees.

    5 – We’re all gonna die!!!

    I”m somewhere between 3 and 4.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 18:49:00 UTC

  • The State of The Argument in Climate Science and Pseudoscience

    October 27th, 2018 10:19 AM THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE (worth repeating) https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/

  • Forcing the Cathedral to Do Penance for The Crime of Yelling Wolf

    October 27th, 2018 9:49 AM CLIMATE: FORCING THE CATHEDRAL TO DO PENANCE FOR THE CRIME OF YELLING WOLF FOR FUN AND PROFIT(for newbs: Cathedral = Academy, Media, State Complex: the new ‘church’.) [I] was directly involved and know the political end of the AGW movement (and lost a lot of money), and I think (as usual) Harrari’s argument (his book) is typical pilpul (his usual articulate bullshit). The people (skeptics) are punishing the academy and state for their handling of the issue. That’s what’s going on. They are forcing the academy and state to do penance for suppressing the counter-research, doing shoddy research, pursuing grant money by fraud, and trying to move to the left in by seizing the opportunity. And my opinion is that it should be criminal to act as the academy and state did in this matter, and people should be in jail for it. That said, we are getting fairly close to an understanding of what is actually going on in the climate, and it’s not clear that other than converting to nuclear power, and cutting the population to 1/6th, that we can (or should) do anything about it. NONE of the predictions, either in the 1970’s with global cooling, or in the 2000’s with AGW, or in the 2010’s with “Climate Change” have played out. Every single period in history, usually created by volcanic activity, has created much higher heat retention, which is rapidly corrected. We are nowhere close to it. Current variations in the climate are within normal ‘noise’, and the statistical analysis of the temperature readings follows the same errors of the statistical analysis of the stock market (shown by mandelbrot) and that this is just noise not signal. All evidence is that very little is going to happen and that all we need to do, if anything, is move to nuclear power, electric vehicles, and cut the population back to 1-3B. Worse, we are entering another cooling period. We have to because of the various perturbations of the orbit and axis. And the recent warming period is nearly over. I think everyone is largely attention seeking, and that as usually, the scientific community is seeking research dollars, the press attention, the state power, and the people who pay for it the truth. The truth is we are affecting the heat retention of the planet. And we have no freaking clue what is going to happen because of it – and we have no freaking clue how the planet will respond to it. But one thing is sure given the history of human thought: what’s being said is hyperbole. Follow Judith Curry’s web site which is the most accurate (scientific) analysis of the movement and its current status. Harrari is just another (((populist))) author selling abrahamic fantasy literature to the weak. STATE OF CLIMATE DATA If y’all can’t understand this report and how ‘moderate’ any change in the climate will be, then y’all are too ignorant and possibly too stupid to open your collective mouths on the subject. https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/

  • The State of The Argument in Climate Science and Pseudoscience

    October 27th, 2018 10:19 AM THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE (worth repeating) https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/

  • Forcing the Cathedral to Do Penance for The Crime of Yelling Wolf

    October 27th, 2018 9:49 AM CLIMATE: FORCING THE CATHEDRAL TO DO PENANCE FOR THE CRIME OF YELLING WOLF FOR FUN AND PROFIT(for newbs: Cathedral = Academy, Media, State Complex: the new ‘church’.) [I] was directly involved and know the political end of the AGW movement (and lost a lot of money), and I think (as usual) Harrari’s argument (his book) is typical pilpul (his usual articulate bullshit). The people (skeptics) are punishing the academy and state for their handling of the issue. That’s what’s going on. They are forcing the academy and state to do penance for suppressing the counter-research, doing shoddy research, pursuing grant money by fraud, and trying to move to the left in by seizing the opportunity. And my opinion is that it should be criminal to act as the academy and state did in this matter, and people should be in jail for it. That said, we are getting fairly close to an understanding of what is actually going on in the climate, and it’s not clear that other than converting to nuclear power, and cutting the population to 1/6th, that we can (or should) do anything about it. NONE of the predictions, either in the 1970’s with global cooling, or in the 2000’s with AGW, or in the 2010’s with “Climate Change” have played out. Every single period in history, usually created by volcanic activity, has created much higher heat retention, which is rapidly corrected. We are nowhere close to it. Current variations in the climate are within normal ‘noise’, and the statistical analysis of the temperature readings follows the same errors of the statistical analysis of the stock market (shown by mandelbrot) and that this is just noise not signal. All evidence is that very little is going to happen and that all we need to do, if anything, is move to nuclear power, electric vehicles, and cut the population back to 1-3B. Worse, we are entering another cooling period. We have to because of the various perturbations of the orbit and axis. And the recent warming period is nearly over. I think everyone is largely attention seeking, and that as usually, the scientific community is seeking research dollars, the press attention, the state power, and the people who pay for it the truth. The truth is we are affecting the heat retention of the planet. And we have no freaking clue what is going to happen because of it – and we have no freaking clue how the planet will respond to it. But one thing is sure given the history of human thought: what’s being said is hyperbole. Follow Judith Curry’s web site which is the most accurate (scientific) analysis of the movement and its current status. Harrari is just another (((populist))) author selling abrahamic fantasy literature to the weak. STATE OF CLIMATE DATA If y’all can’t understand this report and how ‘moderate’ any change in the climate will be, then y’all are too ignorant and possibly too stupid to open your collective mouths on the subject. https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/

  • Criticism

    October 30th, 2018 8:58 AM

    —“Did you use your natural instinct for science for that [criticism of climate science]?]”—

    [N]ot sure what you’re getting at, but my particular ‘talent’ is purely mechanical – and a form of obsessive compulsion for order. I do not have autobiographical (perfect) memory but I have a very good memory, and a lot of general knowledge about many subjects. And so I ‘feel’ when ‘that doesn’t fit’- I just have to work at what I ‘feel/sense’ until the ‘urge to correct disorder’ goes away. (It never goes away otherwise and makes me crazy). Propertarianism is a universal language that helps everything ‘fit together’ into a single unified model. (That’s why I developed it.) And so I sort of specialize in identifying uses of argument that are various attempts at fraud. And I saw that in the climate data. Now, as for the climate science crew, I worked on the “Two Degrees” initiative (clinton foundation, microsoft, etc) until november 2009 when the evidence came out that they had be manipulating the data and suppressing competing research. At that point everyone walked away from it. And I lost the 200K invested in the program. So I have personal knowledge of these people, their organizations, their incentives, how they approach the data, and the political ambitions they had (and careerism) and tax revenue goals they had. So that’s where I come by my opinion. yes we are having some impact on the climate but it’s not clear it’s meaningful, or that it can’t be fairly easily corrected by (a) nuclear power, and (b) reducing underclass reproduction. SO: “Just ’cause most people with lots of life experience don’t engage in running a free classroom online doesn’t means some of us don’t. I don’t have a university classroom, access to a pool of grad students to do research, or a team to put grants together with. Instead, I use the equivalent: fb/websites as my classroom, the hard working people who wont or cant waste their time in universities, and my own an my followers resources to run my ‘class’ and ‘do my research’. Cheers.

  • Criticism

    October 30th, 2018 8:58 AM

    —“Did you use your natural instinct for science for that [criticism of climate science]?]”—

    [N]ot sure what you’re getting at, but my particular ‘talent’ is purely mechanical – and a form of obsessive compulsion for order. I do not have autobiographical (perfect) memory but I have a very good memory, and a lot of general knowledge about many subjects. And so I ‘feel’ when ‘that doesn’t fit’- I just have to work at what I ‘feel/sense’ until the ‘urge to correct disorder’ goes away. (It never goes away otherwise and makes me crazy). Propertarianism is a universal language that helps everything ‘fit together’ into a single unified model. (That’s why I developed it.) And so I sort of specialize in identifying uses of argument that are various attempts at fraud. And I saw that in the climate data. Now, as for the climate science crew, I worked on the “Two Degrees” initiative (clinton foundation, microsoft, etc) until november 2009 when the evidence came out that they had be manipulating the data and suppressing competing research. At that point everyone walked away from it. And I lost the 200K invested in the program. So I have personal knowledge of these people, their organizations, their incentives, how they approach the data, and the political ambitions they had (and careerism) and tax revenue goals they had. So that’s where I come by my opinion. yes we are having some impact on the climate but it’s not clear it’s meaningful, or that it can’t be fairly easily corrected by (a) nuclear power, and (b) reducing underclass reproduction. SO: “Just ’cause most people with lots of life experience don’t engage in running a free classroom online doesn’t means some of us don’t. I don’t have a university classroom, access to a pool of grad students to do research, or a team to put grants together with. Instead, I use the equivalent: fb/websites as my classroom, the hard working people who wont or cant waste their time in universities, and my own an my followers resources to run my ‘class’ and ‘do my research’. Cheers.

  • by Nick Heywood —“Co2 is at historically low and dangerous levels! At 300-400p

    by Nick Heywood

    —“Co2 is at historically low and dangerous levels!

    At 300-400ppm? It’s on the edge of vegetation survivability.

    For optimum “everything” survivability, including increased drought resistance, levels are ideal in a range above 500 ppm.

    Its dangerous for o2 breathers above 4000ppm. 5,000ppm being where submariners tend to set their alarms.

    ALSO! we have the physicists to deal with.

    Co2 cant do, thermodynamically, according to physicists, what climate witch priests claim.

    Once ya follow this rabbit down the alice in Wonderland hole?

    Ya soon realise climate science, and the scientist’s/priests doomsday scenarios?…

    Are just parting you from your money.

    Just priests, looking for tithing!”—

    (They switched from CO2 and Global Warming, to ‘climate change’ and Temperature. )


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 15:36:00 UTC

  • THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE (worth repeating)

    THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE
    (worth repeating)

    https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 14:19:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056188745353977856

  • THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE (worth repeating)

    THE STATE OF THE ARGUMENT IN CLIMATE SCIENCE AND PSEUDOSCIENCE

    (worth repeating)

    https://judithcurry.com/2018/10/11/climate-uncertainty-monster-whats-the-worst-case/


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 10:19:00 UTC