Theme: Responsibility

  • Iran is a country with boundaries and govt that can be held accountable. Islam i

    Iran is a country with boundaries and govt that can be held accountable. Islam is a political system that can’t.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-12-08 17:47:27 UTC

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  • RETALIATION IS THE TEST OF LYING, NOT INTENT. Retaliation is the test of whether

    RETALIATION IS THE TEST OF LYING, NOT INTENT.

    Retaliation is the test of whether you’ve stated a white vs grey or black lie. If someone will retaliate, or feel the need to retaliate, or be negatively disposed to you for your lie, then it’s not to be done. If the person will thank you for it, then it should be. If I am ever again in an ambulance, please tell me I will be fine because I need it. I will thank you for it.

    Paternal Lying: I lie to children – we all do to some degree – because they can’t understand the truth at times. I notice that I ‘lie’ pretty often by giving people partial information just so that I don’t have to give them a full explanation – for the simple purpose of saving time, energy, and patience. I notice that if people are treating me dishonestly, or stupidly, i let them believe what they want, rather than correct them or challenge them – to save effort and stress. When I was young in business during the Yuppie era I engaged in misdirection. When I negotiate I engage in misdirection to gain access to information. But in general I try to avoid immoral OUTCOMES, and to produce moral outcomes. This is a form of paternalism that is in fact, dishonest. Yet I am not sure it is immoral. I have very few things I regret in life and many of them are before I made a rather dramatic change in my own outlook and decided to invest in teaching people instead of outwitting them. I have a few regrets in business not because I was dishonest, but because I was simply wrong and it appeared I was dishonest. Usually I do the opposite: hold the moral high ground at all costs, even to my detriment. But that does not prevent one from engaging in outcome ethics rather than rule or virtue ethics. Hence, paternal lying: when there exists and asymmetry of understanding, knowledge and ability, such that higher moral purpose is preserved by use of knowledge than by adherence to virtue or deontological rules.

    (Interesting. first draft. I haven’t worked through that idea before.)


    Source date (UTC): 2015-12-08 04:53:00 UTC

  • #NRx If one cannot warranty the truthfulness of one’s speech, then why should su

    #NRx If one cannot warranty the truthfulness of one’s speech, then why should such a person be permitted to speak?


    Source date (UTC): 2015-12-07 11:55:35 UTC

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    @Outsideness Physical Science as practiced is merely incomplete. Science is a moral discipline laundering imagination from free association.

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    @Outsideness Physical Science as practiced is merely incomplete. Science is a moral discipline laundering imagination from free association.

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  • NATURAL RIGHTS Natural “rights” are those legal rights of appeal for defense or

    NATURAL RIGHTS

    Natural “rights” are those legal rights of appeal for defense or restitution with which productive men must warranty they insure one another in order to resist the natural ‘wrongs’ that man demonstrates when unproductive.

    Rights are those actions we insure one another against by collective action when they are violated. But the means of violation is always the same: the imposition of costs upon others, rather than engaging in productive activities.

    This lack of including the requirement for productivity, which was obvious to men of property, was an obvious requirement of nature, and therefore a natural law not needing insurance, but one insured by nature herself. An unproductive man in the company of productive men need not be judged by men unless he imposes a cost upon them. His failure of productivity is a judgement passed against him by nature.

    Women circumvented this principle and with it destroyed aristocratic, egalitarian, western civilization.

    The Russians and Chinese bought the Great Lie of Communism. Americans bought the Great Lie of Neo Puritanism. These were the great lies.

    The answer was very simple: just keep on with what we were doing and create new houses for women and the working classes, and preserve our ancient monarchies, and our ancient rule of law.

    Napoleon was the first catastrophe. He started the ball rolling. He was the first plunderer of Europe since the Muslims Sacked Rome. And he broke our relative peace.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-12-07 09:15:00 UTC

  • DR HAIDT Relying upon a subjective frame of reference hinders further insight in

    DR HAIDT

    Relying upon a subjective frame of reference hinders further insight into the causes of behavior. So, instead of:

    —“Conflict occurs when someone defines another’s behavior as deviant – as immoral or otherwise objectionable”—

    I’m going to reframe this statement so that it provides a bit more explanatory power without engaging in the suggestion endemic to empathic experience and value judgement.

    Conflict occurs when someone seeks to impose a cost on another person, consisting of :

    1) loss of opportunity for experience – paying the cost of lost opportunity;

    2) increased demand for discipline – paying the cost of behavioral modification;

    3) loss of status or imaginary status – again resulting in opportunity for reward.

    4) loss of normative investment

    5) loss of material investment

    6) loss of offspring, mates, kin, or friends.

    All moral justifications for the imposition of cost on others depend upon the actor’s and subject’s perception of the terms of cooperation. In other words, moral arguments do not bother one’s enemies. Only those whom we ether cooperate with or seek opportunities to cooperate with.

    We most commonly call demand for the payment of these costs ‘shaming’, and the population we shame the person with ‘rallying’. The purpose of rallying and shaming is to deprive the subject of the cooperation – meaning opportunities for entertainment, friendship, production, or mating. The degree of rallying increases the scope of opportunities the subject will lose.

    Why then is rallying and shaming possible to employ as a means of coercion in some circumstances and not others? Well, have you ever heard the adage “academia is petty because the stakes are so low”? It’s not just academia where the stakes are low. In contemporary urban life, the stakes for almost every social relations are low because opportunity costs of association are near zero, and marginal difference in value when opportunity costs are near zero are also near zero. Hence the emphasis on signaling in dress, hobby, and possessions in urban areas.

    Rallying, Gossiping and Shaming can be successfully employed where the participants have limited value internally to one another, and externally to non-group members, and because of individual lack of value the only obtainable value members have , is collective action expressed as deprivation of opportunity of others outside the group – ie Boycott.

    Therefore:

    (a) students compose a revenue source for universities.

    (b) students individually have little (if any) value other than as a revenue source.

    (c) boycott by students causes externalities – potential loss of future revenue, but also loss of status signaling by the administration, staff, and faculty, all of whom depend upon signaling precisely because of marginal indifference of administration faculty and staff at other than at the extremes.

    Furthermore, students are for the first time finding power in collective action and find stimulation for the first (and perhaps last) times in their lives where their collective action is substantial enough to cause a change in the course of events. In other words, power is both unifying and exciting.

    Victimhood then is vehicle by the privileged and valueless to obtain stimulation as a consequence of exercising power as a group. It’s another exercise of parental rebellion and an attempt at new stimulation – greater sovereignty – and therefore maturity.

    Now, the question why this generation can rely upon rallying and shaming, and the question why the 60’s generation can rely upon rallying and shaming to threaten deprivation of opportunity to collect revenues and to maintain status signal (and to gain signals for some), is one of economics, class and genetics. Conversely why could some other generations not make use of rallying and shaming?

    I’m not a terribly big fan of Nietzsche, but this is an example of Will To Power and little else.

    We have little public record of some groups – we didn’t notice the German immigrants right – despite that they’re larger in number than the British? The catholics caused the prohibition movement and a good deal of the consequences of the depression, and a weakening of rule of law, but they even built their own schools and universities. But we noticed other groups as silent but beneficial such as Ukrainians in Canada, Hindus in the entrepreneurial sector, and East Asians in technical sectors in America. And we noticed other groups not silent – relying upon their traditional economic, class, and genetic strategies: shaming.

    Our genes are pretty effective puppet masters. And for many of us we are not even aware of the strings – despite the fact that nearly all we say and do in every circumstance is at their direction.

    Heterogeneity breeds signaling conflict, breeds normative conflict, breeds economic conflict, breeds residential and workplace conflict, and culminates in polarizing political conflict. Conflict increases demand for authority to resolve difference. Rule of law consisting of universal rules is sacrificed in favor of human discretion. Rule of law cannot resolve incommensurable differences. The more heterogeneous a polity the lower the trust the more demand for authority the more discretion the more corruption.

    Eventually, why do groups ABC contribute to commons consumed by groups DEF. Why do groups ABC sacrifice retirement and reproduction to fund unemployment and reproduction by BCD.

    Universities are just a barometer of an incoming high pressure front.

    Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2015-12-02 12:21:00 UTC

  • Hang ’em Early and Often (Really)

    (In response to news that Duarte will reinstitute the death penalty and hold weekly hangings, I’ve reluctantly agreed that this is an important tradition) [T]he death penalty is probably one of the most positive influences of all traditional institutions when used aggressively against violent career criminals. Particularly if they are young and have not reproduced. Sterilisation of females is probably even better since their constant ‘invisible’ crimes are moral and indirect thefts rather than ethical and direct thefts. So whether we hang or sterilize we make the world a better place. And the way to prevent hanging and sterilizing is to control reproduction by upward redistribution of rates of reproduction, rather than the downward that we have been conducting for the past century and a half – thereby losing a standard deviation in IQ. Hang early and often.

    —“You’re psycho.”—Todd Saunders

    Actually I have been forced to change to and hold this opinion by the evidence. Sorry. I’m a scientist not a priest.

  • Hang ’em Early and Often (Really)

    (In response to news that Duarte will reinstitute the death penalty and hold weekly hangings, I’ve reluctantly agreed that this is an important tradition) [T]he death penalty is probably one of the most positive influences of all traditional institutions when used aggressively against violent career criminals. Particularly if they are young and have not reproduced. Sterilisation of females is probably even better since their constant ‘invisible’ crimes are moral and indirect thefts rather than ethical and direct thefts. So whether we hang or sterilize we make the world a better place. And the way to prevent hanging and sterilizing is to control reproduction by upward redistribution of rates of reproduction, rather than the downward that we have been conducting for the past century and a half – thereby losing a standard deviation in IQ. Hang early and often.

    —“You’re psycho.”—Todd Saunders

    Actually I have been forced to change to and hold this opinion by the evidence. Sorry. I’m a scientist not a priest.

  • There is a great deal in statist law that exists to justify the courts ignorance

    There is a great deal in statist law that exists to justify the courts ignorance.

    Much of which is a burden on moral men simply because judges do not specialise.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-11-27 10:28:00 UTC

  • Felt like I made a female friend uncomfortable tonight. She has little interest

    Felt like I made a female friend uncomfortable tonight. She has little interest in children. Just as most men have little interest in military service. But these are the taxes we pay for our quality of life without parasitism upon other today in the past or future.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-11-26 16:20:00 UTC

  • DUELS (worth repeating) You aren’t honor bound to accept one. You’re threatened

    DUELS

    (worth repeating)

    You aren’t honor bound to accept one. You’re threatened that if you impugn the honor of another you will apologize, or fight to prove the truth of your statement, or die by murder for doing neither.

    While positioned as trial by combat, the principle is ancient: “put up or shut up.”

    My position on dueling is that the court is one weapon that is available to us in such matters, and that reputation is in fact, a critical asset in one’s inventory.

    The reason dueling was outlawed was that men hired substitutes (mercenaries) and it became a means of murder rather than suppression of gossip or test of truth telling.

    The reason it was originally promoted, was the equivalent of ‘take it outside’. It allowed men to ‘cool off’ before getting in a fight, and hopefully allow cooler heads to prevail. Also it was quite heavily regulated, with the intention to harm not so much to kill.

    Challenging a man to a duel ends a conversation very quickly since it can escalate in to a very risky life or death proposition. Also, today’s guns are very dangerous by comparison. If we can fight, use sticks and bats, use knives, use swords, use guns, or use courts, then I suspect there would be a lot more truth telling, and a lot less gossip, and a lot more civility in this world.

    And those who ‘cheat’ us, would be put to death in vast numbers.


    Source date (UTC): 2015-11-24 16:53:00 UTC