Theme: Responsibility

  • Holding Status Issuers Liable

    HOLD THE NOBEL PRIZE COMMITTEE LIABLE FOR THEIR RATING SERVICE? Do you suppose we could make the Nobel Prize committee liable for the certification of pseudoscience? I think we could. Why not? I mean, for all intents and purposes, how is the Nobel Committee any different from the Mortgage Rating Services? Privatizing commons while socializing losses into the commons?  

  • How To Prosecute Rather Than Convince

    HOW TO PROSECUTE RATHER THAN CONVINCE We have moral cause (genocide). We have moral authority (a century of lies). We have sufficient violence. We have opportunity (loss of any credibility in the honesty of our opponents.)

    So, we have means, motive and opportunity. PROSECUTION 1) Prosecute people to demonstrate that they are liars and thieves. 2) Ask why they will not trade with you instead of lie, cheat and steal. 3) Tell them that if we disagree and they force no costs upon us, our kin, and our civilization, then that is merely an agreement to disagree. If they wish to trade what we wish for what they wish then that is merely an agreement to cooperate on means, even though we seek different ends. But if they will not respect what is ours and leave us in peace, will not compromise by trade, and instead seek to impose costs upon us, our kin, and our civilizations, by proxy via the force of government, or by deceit, or by conversion, or by invasion, or by violence, then it is only rational that we will resort ourselves to violence, displacement, deportation, enslavement, and truthfulness. We are left with no choice but to prosecute enemies by punishment, expulsion, enslavement, or death. This is what I mean by prosecution. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine.
  • How To Prosecute Rather Than Convince

    HOW TO PROSECUTE RATHER THAN CONVINCE We have moral cause (genocide). We have moral authority (a century of lies). We have sufficient violence. We have opportunity (loss of any credibility in the honesty of our opponents.)

    So, we have means, motive and opportunity. PROSECUTION 1) Prosecute people to demonstrate that they are liars and thieves. 2) Ask why they will not trade with you instead of lie, cheat and steal. 3) Tell them that if we disagree and they force no costs upon us, our kin, and our civilization, then that is merely an agreement to disagree. If they wish to trade what we wish for what they wish then that is merely an agreement to cooperate on means, even though we seek different ends. But if they will not respect what is ours and leave us in peace, will not compromise by trade, and instead seek to impose costs upon us, our kin, and our civilizations, by proxy via the force of government, or by deceit, or by conversion, or by invasion, or by violence, then it is only rational that we will resort ourselves to violence, displacement, deportation, enslavement, and truthfulness. We are left with no choice but to prosecute enemies by punishment, expulsion, enslavement, or death. This is what I mean by prosecution. Curt Doolittle The Propertarian Institute Kiev, Ukraine.
  • So, as far as I know, you are always a slave as long as you are dependent upon o

    So, as far as I know, you are always a slave as long as you are dependent upon other people’s efforts to survive.

    1 – Undomesticated animal

    2 – Slave (no rights)

    3 – Serf (rights to some of the proceeds of labor)

    4 – Employee/Freeman (rights to property, rights to the proceeds of labor, responsibility for contribution to commons) – Rule of Law

    5 – Manager ( rights to property, rights to proceeds of labor, responsibility for contribution to commons, responsibility for the organization of others in their production )

    6 – Investor (rights to property, rights to the proceeds of labor, responsibility for contribution to commons, responsibility to determine the utilization of scarce resources among various managers )

    7 – Ruler (rights to property, rights to the proceeds of labor, responsibility for contribution to commons,responsibility to create some combination of voluntary or involuntary organizations of defense, production, distribution, and trade, that make investment, management, employment, serfdom, slavery possible.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-22 14:55:00 UTC

  • HOLD THE NOBEL PRIZE COMMITTEE LIABLE FOR THEIR RATING SERVICE? Do you suppose w

    HOLD THE NOBEL PRIZE COMMITTEE LIABLE FOR THEIR RATING SERVICE?

    Do you suppose we could make the Nobel Prize committee liable for the certification of pseudoscience? I think we could. Why not? I mean, for all intents and purposes, how is the Nobel Committee any different from the Mortgage Rating Services? Privatizing commons while socializing losses into the commons?


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-20 12:38:00 UTC

  • YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPREAD IGNORANCE ( Nick Heywood and Curt Doolittle )

    YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPREAD IGNORANCE

    ( Nick Heywood and Curt Doolittle )

    Why do you have the right to ignorance?

    Well, there is a difference between enjoying the luxury of ignorance at other’s expense, and distributing ignorance by your words and deeds.

    And there is a difference between general knowledge that allows us to escape our ignorance, and the means of testing information against error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, overloading, pseudoscience and deceit, that allows us to increase our knowledge and decrease our ignorance, and to speak truthfully and avoid speaking untruthfully.

    And since the animal man evolved to negotiate and deceive as well as describe and inform, and since we evolved to act rationally – meaning morally when in our interests and immorally when in our interests – the reason it has taken us thousands of years to develop the technology of truth telling that we call ‘science’, is because it is unnatural to us. We evolved to negotiate, not testify.

    So just as we must learn manners, ethics, morals, and laws to obtain access to and participate in the benefits of that market for cooperation that we call the ‘social order’, we must learn the ethics of knowledge: how to eliminate error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, loading and framing, overloading, pseudoscience, and deceit.

    And we must teach one another manners, ethics, morals, laws – not only defensively: to limit the ill-mannered, unethical, immoral, and illegal – but also as investment: to increase the number of people with whom we have an option to cooperate at ever lower costs, in the production of private and common goods, services, and information, for mutual benefit.

    So defensive and investment reasons we must invest constantly in the teaching of manners, ethics, morals, and laws, including the ethical science of interpreting and giving testimony: truth telling.

    And conversely we must punish those who cause harm to manners, ethics morals and law; cause harm to the production of private and common goods, services, and information.

    But how do we punish? By the incremental suppression of ill-mannered, unethical, immoral, illegal, speech:

    DEPRIVATION OF OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

    1st with ridicule & shame

    (Ya f’n idiot! What are ya thinkin’? Or ya not thinkin’?!?)

    DEPRIVATION OF OPPORTUNITY TO COOPERATE:

    2nd with ostracism

    (I’m afraid I can’t associate with you. You’re deceitful and just repeat lies you’ve been convinced of as true in order to influence)

    DEPRIVATION OF GOODS, SERVICES AND INFORMATION

    3rd loss of privilege

    (I can’t trade with you or offer service, ya on ya own!)

    DEPRIVATION OF CHOICE

    4th loss of liberty

    (You’re a danger. You lose the ability to make your own decisions. You demonstrate a high risk to other’s welfare)

    DEPRIVATION OF ACTION

    5th loss of freedom!

    (Off to Jail ya go ya f’er! Or war in the case of the state 😉 )

    DEPRIVATION OF EXISTENCE

    6th loss of life

    (hanging)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-18 07:40:00 UTC

  • @nntaleb uses the vernacular ‘skin in the game’,and I use the legal ‘warranty’ a

    @nntaleb uses the vernacular ‘skin in the game’,and I use the legal ‘warranty’ and ‘warranty of due diligence’.But the argument is the same.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-17 18:26:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/799317697800585216

  • SCHOOLING A WELL MEANING FOOL IN THE SCIENCE OF MORALITY —“You draw a strong d

    SCHOOLING A WELL MEANING FOOL IN THE SCIENCE OF MORALITY

    —“You draw a strong distinction between the moral validity of ostracism and the moral validity of using violence. I reject your framework. I think both social and political control require justification. I also think that most people are with me and not with you. …. You’re quite mad, you know.”— Kevin Vallier

    Perhaps, but madmen can construct non-feeble attempts at arguments, and mere fools appear not able to.

    So I can’t afford to eviscerate anyone who engages in this many errors, but I’ll take a moment and invest it in your intellectual future.

    1) justification, validity, moral justification are pseudoscientific terms, since all justificationism is pseudoscientific. We can ‘justify’ a court’s decision, or we can justify adherence to norms, or justify our reason, but this says nothing about whether the premises of the legislation, the premises of the norms, the premises of our reasoning are true. We merely explain the route we took.

    2) assuming our initial premise is true, and each of our subsequent operations (reasonings) is true, then there is at least some chance of truthful content in the eventual deduction. In this case you have not specified what defines moral but seek circularly to depend upon that definition through intuition rather than axiomatic declaration. Thereby proving the first ridicule of amateur philosophy: that all discourse devolves into a debate over norms not truths – thereby ‘justifying’ anything we can imagine. So perhaps to you, you questions in this post seem insightful, but to a professional or skilled amateur, they are merely verbal parlor games – full of syllables saying nothing.

    3) Polylogism can’t be true. There exist only more erroneous and less erroneous, more biased and less biased, more wishful thinking and less wishful thinking, more suggestive and less suggestive, more obscurant and less obscurant, more deceitful and less deceitful arguments, just as there are only more moral and less moral arguments. So you are not making a ‘differen’t argument, by practicing ‘different’ philosophy, but you are merely engaging in multiple layers of verbal excuses by which to rely upon intuition (taste) and conflate it with truth (testimonial parsimony) as a means by which to justify your priors, in order to either signal others or yourself.

    4) As for the basis of morality, we know it: the value of cooperation is so disproportionately rewarding for a life form as expensive as a human being, that evolved from non-cooperating life forms, and retain the choice of cooperating or non cooperating or cheating, or preying upon one another, that we preserve the incentive to cooperate by paying disproportionately high costs to punish cheaters(exceptions), and pay many small costs to invest (buy options) on future cooperation and pay substantial costs (buy options) on reciprocal insurance in times of harm. But that since these costs could be infinite, our investments (of evolutionary necessity) decline with kin(genetic) distance.

    (As examples, The advent of Judaism was to prohibit external insurance and investment outside of the tribe as a resistance movement against competitors. The advent of Christianity was to extend investment beyond kin and tribe as a resistance movement against the aristocracy. Islam is a more aggressive form of Judaism. We all seek to increase our numbers. but we do so through various means. Christianity by extension of kinship trust, Islam by indoctrination and status-compensation(bribery), and Judaism by economic parasitism, and gypsies by predation.)

    Now, all human groups exist in various geographies imposing various costs and providing various benefits. All groups are faced with more diverse competitors or lack them. All groups have been more or less successful at paedomorphic evolution than others (domestication and civilization). All groups have been more or less successful at institutional and economic and intellectual development than other groups. All groups have evolved more productive or more parasitic group evolutionary strategies. And so different groups evolved different moral NORMS: rules by which to avoid impositions of costs on in-group members, as well as required investments in in-group members. Just as we developed legislative norms which require the observation of certain rules of investment and cost.

    So within a group’s evolutionary (survival) strategy, using the groups norms and legislation, it is possible for any given moral norm, or legislative rule, to be objectively moral or immoral, just as it is possible for any group’s evolutionary strategy to be objectively moral or immoral. And it is common for groups to LIE and state that their norms are moral truths, and legislation is in fact law as a means of imposing unquestioning authority on in-group members. But just as group evolutionary strategies, moral norms, and legislative rules are mere PRAGMATISMS, morality and law are mere truths – because they provide decidability ACROSS various pragmatisms-falsely claimed to be truths.

    5) So, first we are faced with the problem of falsifying this argument – and we can’t do so empirically or logically. (go ahead and try).

    Secondly, once we provide decidability in a domain the problem is providing other means of decidability that survive the tests of immorality themselves: attempted free riding, parasitism, and theft.

    And third, you might ask yourself why any attempt at moral argument would avoid accounting for costs except to perpetuate a fraud, just as any other failure to account for costs in any other domain of inquiry can only be explained by attempt to perpetuate a fraud.

    6) So you see, my ‘system’ requires only the process we call ‘science’: to eliminate error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, overloading, pseudorationalism, pseudoscience, and deceit from our arguments. And one of the necessary means of ensuring we are not engaging in any form of error, bias, or deceit, is the application existential consistency and full accounting, by the operational description of a sequence of actions in objective verse. property(or more accurately ‘investment’), is merely the unit of measure by which we test cooperation.

    7) Now if you know any (meaningful) professors of philosophy it is possible that you can use this post to learn something – although most philosophy departments are now categorized with literature, religion, or pseudoscience, depending upon the university, there remain people of calibre to speak with in at least logic and the philosophy of science. And if that person disagrees with me I’ll openly offer to debate him or her. Not that it’s likely since this is fairly simplistic reasoning at least as I have outlined it here.

    If your world is a comfortable lie that is ok. plenty of people disliked darwin or newton’s or galileo’s or machiavelli’s or aristotle’s or socrates’ arguments since each of them exposed the frauds of their eras hiding under the pretense of moral norms. And I do not expect you to enjoy the fact that I’m demonstrating that the (antique) argumentative technique you are using is one of those fraudulent moral norms evolved to use justification in order to make the fraudulent claim that a norm or legislative rule is either ‘true’ or ‘moral’. But that is what you are doing.

    Morality: the science of cooperation, is no different from any other science, other than it is dearer to us, and makes us more uncomfortable.

    Precisely because cooperation is so valuable to us – and so expensive to obtain. That we fabricate all sorts of lies to encourage it, as well as norms and legislation.

    What a lovely web of lies we weave.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine

    (PS: when did it ever matter how many people believed something? Last I knew, more people on earth believed it was flat. Truth isn’t a democratically determined property.)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-17 04:22:00 UTC

  • If the we regulated the informational commons by requiring we warranty our speec

    If the we regulated the informational commons by requiring we warranty our speech, then the NYT and Academy, would be organized crime orgs.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-16 12:14:00 UTC

  • (not that i like this idea, but under propertarian ethics, testimonial truth, an

    (not that i like this idea, but under propertarian ethics, testimonial truth, and natural law, the NYT, and a lot of the academy, are classifiable as organized crime.)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-11-16 11:40:00 UTC