THE GREEK UNDERSTANDING OF GODS
—“Homer and Hesiod have attributed to the gods
all sorts of things which are matters of reproach and censure among men: theft, adultery and mutual deceit.
But if horses or oxen or lions had hands or could draw with their hands and accomplish such works as men,
horses would draw the figures of the gods as similar to horses, and the oxen as similar to oxen,
and they would make the bodies
of the sort which each of them had. (frag. 15)”—Xenophanes
Theme: Religion
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
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Curt Doolittle updated his status.
THE GODS GAVE US FIRE, BUT WE MAD OURSELVES GODS WITH METAL. As far as I know (and I may be wrong) gods gave us fire via Prometheus, but man invented metal. And while Hephaestus is a god of Smiths (and I am not sure how many civilizations have such a thing other than Thor and Hephaestus) the gods did not give man metal. We made our solves gods by discovering it, and bending it to our will. 😉
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Abrahamism: –“What’s Pilpul?”–
–“What’s Pilpul?”–
Sophism: ‘readings'(tea leaves, entrails, anything), numerology, astrology, scriptural interpretation, textual interpretation, legal interpretation – the art of making excuses to justify a prior, using loading, framing, suggestion obscurantism, overloading, fictionalism, and deceit. Abrahamism: consists of False Promise, Pilpul (positive), Critique (negative), straw manning, and heaping of undue praise, to force you to appeal to your intuition rather than reason and evidence. November 7th, 2018 2:17 PM
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Abrahamism: –“What’s Pilpul?”–
–“What’s Pilpul?”–
Sophism: ‘readings'(tea leaves, entrails, anything), numerology, astrology, scriptural interpretation, textual interpretation, legal interpretation – the art of making excuses to justify a prior, using loading, framing, suggestion obscurantism, overloading, fictionalism, and deceit. Abrahamism: consists of False Promise, Pilpul (positive), Critique (negative), straw manning, and heaping of undue praise, to force you to appeal to your intuition rather than reason and evidence. November 7th, 2018 2:17 PM
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DECISION| Religion <-> Philosophy <-> History <-> Law <-> Science <-> Mathematic
|DECISION| Religion <-> Philosophy <-> History <-> Law <-> Science <-> Mathematics. Graceful Failure to religion under ignorance, Graceful Success to mathematics under knowledge.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-07 15:03:40 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1060186025438445568
Reply addressees: @nntaleb
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009740238053412864
IN REPLY TO:
@nntaleb
1) Religious statements are not epistemic (scientific, literal) claims, but risk-survival heuristics under incomplete understanding. Populations with the right risk heuristics survive. Others perish.
2) Christianity has a built-in separation church/state.
#SkinintheGame https://t.co/Fd9sEPdRsfOriginal post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009740238053412864
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“What’s Pilpul?”– Sophism: numerology, astrology, scriptural interpretation, te
–“What’s Pilpul?”–
Sophism: numerology, astrology, scriptural interpretation, textual interpretation, legal interpretation – the art of making excuses to justify a prior, using loading, framing, suggestion obscurantism, overloading, fictionalism, and deceit.
Abrahamism consists of False Promise, Pilpul (positive), Critique (negative), straw manning, and heaping of undue praise, to force you to appeal to your intuition rather than reason and evidence.
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-07 14:17:00 UTC
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Parents follow rituals for the sake of their children. Statesmen follow religion
Parents follow rituals for the sake of their children. Statesmen follow religions for the sake of their working and underclasses. This ‘sacrifice’ on behalf of those less able in exchange for signals (status) preserves reciprocity (respect for one another).
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 18:46:04 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059879607233585157
Reply addressees: @jollyswagmenpod @nntaleb
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009740843010351104
IN REPLY TO:
@joewalkerpod
@nntaleb Does that mean you also believe religion’s ontological claims while participating in its rituals/heuristics? Can the two be separated?
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1009740843010351104
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RT @nntaleb: Christianity is not *only* 2000 y old. It is a mutation of >4K y of
RT @nntaleb: Christianity is not *only* 2000 y old. It is a mutation of >4K y of Mediterranean-Anatolian creeds, mysteries, and mythologies…
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 18:43:34 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059878977995710466
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RT @nntaleb: 1) Religious statements are not epistemic (scientific, literal) cla
RT @nntaleb: 1) Religious statements are not epistemic (scientific, literal) claims, but risk-survival heuristics under incomplete understa…
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 18:32:49 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1059876272409640960
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DEEP MEANING —“Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, r
DEEP MEANING
—“Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy.”— Bill Joslin
“WOTAN IS TO HELP THE MATURING MAN ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE DETAILS AND NUANCE WITHIN THE MYRIAD OF DEGREES FOUND WITHIN THE SPECTRUM BETWEEN THOSE LIMITS.”
—“One of the beauties of operational thought is to exhume oneself from arguments of dichotomies to identifying spectra (the range of possibilities within limits).
Eating the fruit of the tree of “good and evil”, a dichotomy, resulted in the fall of man… Perhaps the fall of man isn’t so much due to acquisition of knowledge but rather shifting the foundation of knowledge from spectra to dichotomy.
There isn’t a good Wotan and an evil Wotan – there is only Wotan whose range of action and experience occurs within a spectra…. Like the rest of us – able to be ultimate asses and wise old silver backs with in one life, body and personality….
And that’s kind of the point. Dichotomies of perfectly good and perfectly bad are only useful to teach children about the tails of a spectrum… To distinguish the tails.
Wotan is to help the maturing man about identifying the details and nuance within the myriad of degrees found within those limits.” —- Bill Joslin
(from the “stuff I wish I’d said” department)
Source date (UTC): 2018-11-06 17:37:00 UTC