Theme: Religion

  • Excellent example of Pilpul (Sophism). You want to restore the right to kill fet

    Excellent example of Pilpul (Sophism). You want to restore the right to kill fetuses, just as women have killed newborns, and young children for thousands of years by exposure, suffocation, and strangulation. Women have murdered more children then all the wars of men combined.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-17 18:42:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1174030835361755136

    Reply addressees: @JaneCaro

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173816850548805633


    IN REPLY TO:

    @JaneCaro

    I have been fighting for reproductive rights for over 40 years, yet some forced birthers still appear to think that their justifications (exclusively religiously based) are so persuasive they will magically change my mind. Save your emails people, I’ve heard ‘em all.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173816850548805633

  • Everyone wants to defend the malinvestment in their frame no matter how ridiculo

    Everyone wants to defend the malinvestment in their frame no matter how ridiculous, art, literature, religion, philosophy, utilitarianism, marxism – whatever – when science is gradually producing the most unambiguous frame. So what is it that you want to produce and why?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-16 21:01:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173703367794810881

    Reply addressees: @Semiogogue

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173703101716606977


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @Semiogogue So I would have to understand WHY you’re trying to do what you’re doing. To undrestand why your approach suits it. Most people want discounted references by increasing homogeneity of narratives required for symbolism to provide discounts on cognition and trust extension.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1173703101716606977


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @Semiogogue So I would have to understand WHY you’re trying to do what you’re doing. To undrestand why your approach suits it. Most people want discounted references by increasing homogeneity of narratives required for symbolism to provide discounts on cognition and trust extension.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1173703101716606977

  • Hayek and Poincare were right: the 20th will be remembered as a repeat of christ

    Hayek and Poincare were right: the 20th will be remembered as a repeat of christianization and islamization of the ancient world – this time with sophism, pseudoscience and denial,instead of sophism, supernaturalism and denial:false promise of reversing the consequences of genes.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-16 14:42:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173608151041675264

    Reply addressees: @GrkStav @karlbykarlsmith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173607629882634241


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @GrkStav @karlbykarlsmith The industrialization of lying by sophism and pseudoscience, denialism, and deceit using new media in the 19th 20th, and the capture of ‘preaching’ in school, academy, and media by profiting from use of this technique has left the 20th a repeat of the first-second century.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1173607629882634241


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @GrkStav @karlbykarlsmith The industrialization of lying by sophism and pseudoscience, denialism, and deceit using new media in the 19th 20th, and the capture of ‘preaching’ in school, academy, and media by profiting from use of this technique has left the 20th a repeat of the first-second century.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1173607629882634241

  • Learn the technique of false promise, baiting into moral hazard, pilpul (via pos

    Learn the technique of false promise, baiting into moral hazard, pilpul (via positiva), critique (via negativa), and its common thread in the three monotheistic religions, marxism, pomo, feminism, and political correctness – but insightfully, the female strategy of undermining.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-16 14:24:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173603444822806528

    Reply addressees: @GrkStav @karlbykarlsmith

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173583317918085125


    IN REPLY TO:

    @GrkStav

    @curtdoolittle @karlbykarlsmith The “destruction of the family” as a *policy* goal?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173583317918085125

  • by Daniel Gurpide I previously posted that –“Plato‘s philosophy was for ‘the in

    by Daniel Gurpide

    I previously posted that –“Plato‘s philosophy was for ‘the intellectuals’; the ethics of Plato are tied to his whole system of knowledge, including politics. The doctrines of Epicurus appealed chiefly to the middle classes, the bourgeoisie; the ethics of Epicurus are separated from politics and joined only with physics (and Aristotle). The teachings of Jesus were for the very poor, the lost sheep. The ethics of Jesus are isolated from both physics and politics and fitted into a development scheme of salvation.”—

    Curt and I were trying to figure out why Epicurean philosophy was wiped out so easily after the fall of the Roman Empire. There were never strong Epicurean communities. Epicureans prioritized their small groups and chose not to engage in politics (a consequence of the civil wars that used to plague the ancient world).

    I was recently reading “Liberalism: Ancient & Modern” by Leo Strauss. The central chapter and the longest chapter is his “Notes on Lucretius”. He identifies one of the main tenets of Epicurean teaching–that the world that we love is not eternal, because every world is mortal within the eternal universe of atoms in motion–as “the most terrible truth”.

    Philosophers can live with this truth with a tranquil mind. But most human beings cannot. And consequently most human beings can find peace of mind only through the “pleasing delusion” of a religious belief that the world of human concern is supported by a loving intelligent designer.

    I guess that the temptation for the Platonist “intellectuals” to lead the “lost sheep” and at the same time sandwich the middle classes has always been there.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-16 12:03:00 UTC

  • RT @Outsideness: … “The more religious practice recedes, the more we abandon o

    RT @Outsideness: … “The more religious practice recedes, the more we abandon ourselves to a kind of goodwill that is as ardent as it is w…


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-16 06:48:14 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173488749273128961

  • Religions: Addiction to Emotional Self Indulgence

    Religions: Addiction to Emotional Self Indulgence https://propertarianism.com/2019/09/15/religions-addiction-to-emotional-self-indulgence/


    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-15 16:07:04 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173266995263000577

  • Religions: Addiction to Emotional Self Indulgence

    RELIGIONS: ADDICTION TO EMOTIONAL SELF INDULGENCE The purpose of most religions is not mindfulness but it supplanting it with addiction to emotional self indulgence. The purpose of buddha’s teaching was, originally, submissive mindfulness. The purpose of stoicism’s teaching was dominant mindfulness – action. The purpose of Epicureanism was evidentiary mindfulness: supplying the human with real demands instead of status competition. And while the stoic METHOD – today’s cognitive behavioral therapy (training) – is superior to all others, the Epicurean objective is superior to all others. And this is in part why the anatolian, syrian, middle eastern fought so hard to destroy western heroism and it’s status competition by demonstrated action, sacrifice to earn the franchise, truth and duty to preserve the franchise: because all of these demands force us to obtain status through contribution to the commons (farmers and men ), rather than hyperconsumption of any available commons (shepherds and women), and emotional self indulgence. Why? Because while the division of labor provides discounts on production, status provides a discount on opportunity. So if can construct high status (sexual, social, economic, political, or military market value) we obtain more and better opportunities with more and better people. The innovation in abrahamic religion was to provide competition against aristocratic stoicism, truth, duty, and contribution to the commons, with self indulgence, justification of cowardice, and elimination of contribution to the commons – which is what we see in communism, neo-liberalism, and libertarianism: how to consume the commons rather than contribute to them. The structure of this religion is dependent upon your learning to lie in the face of reality in exchange for denial of that reality, denial of truth, duty, commons. It is a narrative structure that recreates the nepotism and insularity of the wandering shepherds who have no land, but live off common lands, and preserve insularity and non-defection in a condition of permanent competition against others of the same ilk, rather than the forces of nature. Our gradual domestication of this religion the purpose of which was to undermine the aristocracy, by converting it’s women and underclasses, who could not obtain status in the meritocratic order in that era where industrialization and gunpowder had not yet produced multiples of force, and all was still dependent upon military participation and fighting. The demand for mindfulness is largely a demand for means of training our demand for status. As the division of labor increases, the classes diverge in ability, productivity, and interest, and as power distance between bottom and top increases, we find those with the least agency seeking status by alternative means, and a caste of ‘talkers’ providing status (success) by alternative means – where are alternative does not refer to production contribution to the commons, or defense of the private and common. Gods provide a means of obtaining approval without competing in the sexual, social, political, economic, and military markets for status and therefore opportunity. Mythical Archetypes, heroes (masculine pagan markets), gods and saints (feminine abrahamic monopoly), provide a diversity of heroies and interests as suits those with agency in a division of knowledge and labor. The monotheistic archetype creates an anti-hero, in which the victim who suffers for his lack of ability and agency is somehow heroic. But the purpose of this anti-hero is the undermining of those who demonstrate innovation, excellence, competitiveness, production, and contribution to the commons, that increases the division of knowledge and labor, increases competitiveness, increases power distance, and decreases opportunity for status in those lacking ability, training, and agency. The jesus hero is a contribution to the heathen (ancestors, nature) pagan (heroes, archetypes) when one of many. But a disaster, like mohammed, and the jews when a monopoly – for we are only equal in ignorance, lack of agency and poverty. We are always unequal in knowledge agency, and wealth. It is not that we didn’t need the jesus hero, since there is no equivalent of the feminine archetype in the european pantheon. and the teaching of forgiveness and love in christianity is commercially optimum for all peoples. Unless it is applied (as do christians) beyond our kith and kin. There is no better method of training our emotions and intuitions other than the stoic method. There is nothing better to seek in life than the epicurean. And just as we domesticated christianity into a germanic folk religion, and just as we manufactured chivalry to direct aryan men to christian ends. These are the needs of the many ordinary men, while nietzsche, aristotle, alexander, jefferson, and frederick are examples for those of us who are not ordinary men. And it is only aristotelianism, heathenism, paganism , and christianity together that produce a religion for all the classes. We have always been an aristotelian (natural law), heathen (nature and ancestor) and pagan (heroes and tribes) people. With competition between the martial, magical,literary, and rational in competition. (Note: I have made a mistake by not putting time, opportunity, and status, at the top of the demonstrated property hierarchy. life is just time. time opportunity. opportunity experience.)

  • Religions: Addiction to Emotional Self Indulgence

    RELIGIONS: ADDICTION TO EMOTIONAL SELF INDULGENCE The purpose of most religions is not mindfulness but it supplanting it with addiction to emotional self indulgence. The purpose of buddha’s teaching was, originally, submissive mindfulness. The purpose of stoicism’s teaching was dominant mindfulness – action. The purpose of Epicureanism was evidentiary mindfulness: supplying the human with real demands instead of status competition. And while the stoic METHOD – today’s cognitive behavioral therapy (training) – is superior to all others, the Epicurean objective is superior to all others. And this is in part why the anatolian, syrian, middle eastern fought so hard to destroy western heroism and it’s status competition by demonstrated action, sacrifice to earn the franchise, truth and duty to preserve the franchise: because all of these demands force us to obtain status through contribution to the commons (farmers and men ), rather than hyperconsumption of any available commons (shepherds and women), and emotional self indulgence. Why? Because while the division of labor provides discounts on production, status provides a discount on opportunity. So if can construct high status (sexual, social, economic, political, or military market value) we obtain more and better opportunities with more and better people. The innovation in abrahamic religion was to provide competition against aristocratic stoicism, truth, duty, and contribution to the commons, with self indulgence, justification of cowardice, and elimination of contribution to the commons – which is what we see in communism, neo-liberalism, and libertarianism: how to consume the commons rather than contribute to them. The structure of this religion is dependent upon your learning to lie in the face of reality in exchange for denial of that reality, denial of truth, duty, commons. It is a narrative structure that recreates the nepotism and insularity of the wandering shepherds who have no land, but live off common lands, and preserve insularity and non-defection in a condition of permanent competition against others of the same ilk, rather than the forces of nature. Our gradual domestication of this religion the purpose of which was to undermine the aristocracy, by converting it’s women and underclasses, who could not obtain status in the meritocratic order in that era where industrialization and gunpowder had not yet produced multiples of force, and all was still dependent upon military participation and fighting. The demand for mindfulness is largely a demand for means of training our demand for status. As the division of labor increases, the classes diverge in ability, productivity, and interest, and as power distance between bottom and top increases, we find those with the least agency seeking status by alternative means, and a caste of ‘talkers’ providing status (success) by alternative means – where are alternative does not refer to production contribution to the commons, or defense of the private and common. Gods provide a means of obtaining approval without competing in the sexual, social, political, economic, and military markets for status and therefore opportunity. Mythical Archetypes, heroes (masculine pagan markets), gods and saints (feminine abrahamic monopoly), provide a diversity of heroies and interests as suits those with agency in a division of knowledge and labor. The monotheistic archetype creates an anti-hero, in which the victim who suffers for his lack of ability and agency is somehow heroic. But the purpose of this anti-hero is the undermining of those who demonstrate innovation, excellence, competitiveness, production, and contribution to the commons, that increases the division of knowledge and labor, increases competitiveness, increases power distance, and decreases opportunity for status in those lacking ability, training, and agency. The jesus hero is a contribution to the heathen (ancestors, nature) pagan (heroes, archetypes) when one of many. But a disaster, like mohammed, and the jews when a monopoly – for we are only equal in ignorance, lack of agency and poverty. We are always unequal in knowledge agency, and wealth. It is not that we didn’t need the jesus hero, since there is no equivalent of the feminine archetype in the european pantheon. and the teaching of forgiveness and love in christianity is commercially optimum for all peoples. Unless it is applied (as do christians) beyond our kith and kin. There is no better method of training our emotions and intuitions other than the stoic method. There is nothing better to seek in life than the epicurean. And just as we domesticated christianity into a germanic folk religion, and just as we manufactured chivalry to direct aryan men to christian ends. These are the needs of the many ordinary men, while nietzsche, aristotle, alexander, jefferson, and frederick are examples for those of us who are not ordinary men. And it is only aristotelianism, heathenism, paganism , and christianity together that produce a religion for all the classes. We have always been an aristotelian (natural law), heathen (nature and ancestor) and pagan (heroes and tribes) people. With competition between the martial, magical,literary, and rational in competition. (Note: I have made a mistake by not putting time, opportunity, and status, at the top of the demonstrated property hierarchy. life is just time. time opportunity. opportunity experience.)

  • RELIGIONS: ADDICTION TO EMOTIONAL SELF INDULGENCE The purpose of most religions

    RELIGIONS: ADDICTION TO EMOTIONAL SELF INDULGENCE

    The purpose of most religions is not mindfulness but it supplanting it with addiction to emotional self indulgence.

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    Source date (UTC): 2019-09-15 16:03:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173266135304871937