Theme: Religion

  • WORLD RELIGIONS AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES —“Curt Doolittle: in comparison between

    WORLD RELIGIONS AND THEIR CONSEQUENCES

    —“Curt Doolittle: in comparison between Orthodoxy and evangelical Christianity in making states more or less better or first world or third world?”—Ibrahim Abd El Shihead

    Narrow Point:

    The fact that the orthodox church didn’t or couldn’t compete with the state on one hand, and didn’t try, as catholicism, to compete with science, reason, commerce, and law, (competition) and remained a specialist in family affairs (unity, community, love) is why it is still regarded as sacred to the people. This is why I don’t ever seem to have a problem with the orthodox community “church is for church, law is for disputes to be avoided at all costs, state is for state to protect us, and we all get along fine if we do our f-king jobs”.

    The problem i have with xianity is that western christians haven’t given up on fantasy of monopoly – theocratic rule, and can’t seem (like russians and traditional americans) to practice the natural trichotomy of state, law, and faith., Under the rather (insane) presumption that the church, having failed so drastically wouldn’t do so again.

    So to in this sense while evangelical christianity is closest to jesus’ teaching, the orthodox church is closest to the institutional church we need, and the catholic church and the protestant churches to that sought to limit the parasitism of the church, were failures. In other words, orthodoxy seems to have avoided both the catholic attempt to rule, the protestant attempt to undermine the church’s corruption, the necessity of catholic and protestant churches to attract members of the aristocracy as local administrators, and best preserved the role of the church in society. Another example of the value of intolerant monarchies.

    Broader Point:

    Aristotelianism seems to produce scientific and technical potential.

    Christianity seems to produce political and commercial potential but it wasn’t enough in russia probably because they missed the renaissance, reformation, and enlightenment.

    Islam seems to resist political, commercial and scientific potential, but produces underclass harmony.

    Judaism produces organized crime families that prey on the commons, which is extremely profitable for them at the cost of the host people. Judaism hasn’t been nearly as destructive as islam – but it’s certainly been bad for germany, russia, america, and now all of western europe.

    Hinduism is some kind of absolutely beautiful madness that I still struggle to get my arms around, but their problem seems to be demographic and without division into sub-states politically impossible to overcome.

    buddhism produces an equally kind harmony at the cost of stagnation. china is trivially easy to understand because they escaped religion. japan and korea easiest to understand.

    Without christianity (enforced) scandinavia, and without buddhism (enforced) japan/korea, would have come provided a pattern we needed. the optimum ‘religion’ was rule of law, militia, monarchy (imperialism), paganism (aristocracy), stoicism(middle) epicureanism (lower middle) heathenism (family), and a priesthood of any kind to take responsibility for the peasantry.

    This competition serves better than monopoly but it needs strong rule of law to prevent any usurping the rest. The problem is, markets are susceptible to intolerant monopolies and monotheism is intolerant and intolerance wins, so the only ‘total intolerance’ we need is defense of those markets.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 12:09:00 UTC

  • Probably not obvious, but the eastern orthodox church has succeeded by knowing i

    Probably not obvious, but the eastern orthodox church has succeeded by knowing its place and function, having smaller numbers, and so being less diverse, being a state religion and by proximity to hostiles (islam, turkey, the stans.).

    Catholic church doubled down on (a) rule, (b) bureaucracy, and (c) dogma, and (d) they failed at both rule at home and colonial rule abroad, and (e) the dogma which while elegant could not reform.

    The protestant churches couldn’t reform.

    The evangelicals reformed and restored christianity to it’s origins as folk religion not a political religion.

    Islam can’t reform.

    judaism needs pressure to reform.

    Buddhism hardly needs reform.

    Shintoism is perfect as it is, and a lesson for us all.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 09:47:00 UTC

  • THERE IS ONLY ONE CHRISTIAN: JESUS. AND THE CHURCH WAS AN INVASION AND CONQUEST

    THERE IS ONLY ONE CHRISTIAN: JESUS. AND THE CHURCH WAS AN INVASION AND CONQUEST OF OUR PEOPLE TO TURN WARRIORS INTO SLAVES.

    —“If all the religions were so similar and provided the same product they would have produced similar results. “—

    The point is that group strategy, military, and law influence adults, who are capable of and exercise agency (action) – and religion influences women and children, the weak and the poor who lack agency.

    Religion provides mindfulness as the first group drags the second group through time. Religions don’t lead – they create mindfulness that prevents defection so that the people may be led, despite the insecurity alienation and anonymity that arises as families, clans, and tribes scale and consolidate into polities.

    —“the faith was built on the natural laws (Gods Laws)”—

    We have discovered THREE sets of god’s laws:

    1. The physical laws of nature (action)

    … 2. The logical laws of consistency (thought)

    … … 3. The grammatical laws of paradigms (speech)

    4. The natural law of reciprocity (cooperation)

    … 5. The christian law of love (seduction into cooperation)

    … … 6. The political law of homogeneity (incentive to insure)

    7. The evolutionary law of transcendence (defeat the red queen).

    … … 8. The … law of self domestication

    … … … 9. The …. law of competition..

    Of this set of God’s laws, what does Christianity DENY?

    1. physical laws of nature.

    6. the political law of homogeneity

    7. the evolutionary law of transcendence

    8. the … law of self domestication

    9. the … law of competition.

    What does this mean? Christianity is a feminine religion, because it uses the counter-evolutionary strategy of females. And all female societies die without host males. Just as christians only survive with host Aryans, jews can only survive with host male populations, and Muslims hyper-violate these laws by consuming and destroying those host populations.

    —” looking at historical performance “—

    A monopoly takes credit for the good that would occur in any civilization but not credit for the bad – in economics we learn that we must judge by full accounting, not cherry picking, and account for the seen and unseen, and measure by opportunity cost – the difference between possible choices.

    Looking at historical performance of the church and christian rome vs aristocracy and literate rome, we have to ask, why did the church choose subjugation supernaturalism, and spreading ignorance rather than militarization, engineering, and spreading literacy as did the roman aristocracy? THe dark ages exist just as much because of the church and religion as it did because of the migration period invasions,made possible by the roman holocaust against the celts.

    While european aristocracy, military, law, and mythology survived, It took the restoration of (a) viking military, (b) aristotelian reason, (c) north sea trade by first vikings then the hansa (c) literacy (d) then the

    In the difference between possible choices, there was obvious and necessary utility of an heroic underclass religion to integrate the middle eastern peasantry (tribes, slaves, women) into the pagan pantheon and therefore raise their status to equality in contribution to civilization, and therefore worthy of respect non-existent in the pagan hierarchy that treated them as undomesticated animals, and therefore would no longer be treated as barbarians.

    The use of this religion as an institution of warfare with which to keep the peasantry ignorant and subservient on one h and, but to undermine the aristocracy through social construction, resistance, and usurpation of power by numbers, just as the marxists-neo-marxists-postmodernists-feminists (jews in this age as in the last) have used immigration, and undermining the aristocratic civilization of the west for the SECOND TIME.

    So no I don’t give the church credit for the scraps of good that would take place even under the most horridly backward, ignorance producing, and parasitic means of government over the people, trying to reduce them to middle eastern barbarism as a good.

    Instead i compare what could have been without the church and that means the industrial revolution and a thousand years of ignorance poverty starvation disease and suffering would have been avoided if not for the ignorance-production of the semitic church, and instead, the continuation of the stoic and epicurean and philosophical, and mathematical, and legal, and commercial institutions of the europeans.

    Myth, Ritual, Oath, Feast, Celebration by Festival, Sport, Theater, Story) (the animal celebration of the rewards of the hunt around the fire) organized into Religion, and some kind of

    The church destroyed jesus’ message of love and the opportunity of the ancient world to create harmony by the jewish conversion of it into a political weapon of despotic rule, not harmonious like the egyptians, or justificationary like the babylonians, but despotic and hostile and undermining like the jews and arabs.

    So no. Jesus was the feminine alternative to Achilles – a hero of the poor. And Paul and the rest of the jews turned it into a religion of rebellion and destruction against rome, just as the muslims exacerbated the problem by converting it to a religion of conquest, destruction, and devolution into feminine barbarism – reversing gods law of transcendence of man.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 09:18:00 UTC

  • “Maybe we need to get rid of priestesses and instill Roman patriarchy throughout

    —“Maybe we need to get rid of priestesses and instill Roman patriarchy throughout society. Oh wait, pagans always moan that was a bad thing.”—Rik Storey

    I don’t know what that means but if you mean every man a student and teacher, son and father, laborer and craftsman, soldier and warrior, sheriff and judge, legislator and sovereign, then (a) that’s pagan, and (b) that’s a good thing. 😉

    The difference is the means by which we organize into those roles: Familial, Religious, Educational, Legal, or Military.

    We forge the individual using the furnace of the group.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-10 08:29:00 UTC

  • THE PROBLEM The problem for Christianity is that it only has one thing to trade

    THE PROBLEM

    The problem for Christianity is that it only has one thing to trade -psychological comfort – or what we call mindfulness – and only half or less of the population is buying it. It doesn’t have ENOUGH to trade for the rest of the population to buy it. Yet christians are desperately trying to sell to a saturated market and in doing so losing market share. Instead what Christians, pagans, heathens, traditionalists, constitutionalists and seculars have to trade is unity against the enemy that would destroy our civilization – christian, pagan, heathen, traditional, constitutionalist, and secular.

    So sell the the only thing the market will buy:

    Unity in self defense.

    Unity in Offense.

    And Unity in Victory.

    Because selling monopoly is failing everyone.

    You can’t have control.

    You can only preserve our trifunctionalism: the equilibrium of military, legal, and religious -each in defense of the other.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-09 20:29:00 UTC

  • should hear the heathen ones… lolz

    should hear the heathen ones… lolz


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-09 20:25:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1248346393384816646

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    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1248344598361133061

  • WHAT IS IT THAT CHRISTIANITY – OR ANY RELIGION – PROVIDES? (it’s really simple)(

    WHAT IS IT THAT CHRISTIANITY – OR ANY RELIGION – PROVIDES?

    (it’s really simple)(understangind all religion)

    —“Christianity doesn’t provide comfort. It, like Buddhism and some other religions, is existentially terrifying. You need to grapple with a good Christian scholar like Edward Feser.”— Rik Storey

    That is counter to the evidence.

    The monster under the bed is terrifying if you are a child. Most of us grow out of it. Not all of us. But, most. The only thing most of us are terrified by is our irrelevance, inadequacy and smallness in the face of a universe we appear to be the only seed so far to plant in it.

    Stoicism provides insulation from signaling. Buddhism provides insulation from signaling. Christianity provides insulation from signaling. Judaism provides insulation from signaling. Islam provides insulation from signaling. Hindu castes provide insulation from signaling. The reason all organized religions emerged at the same time was the increase in trade, division of labor, power distance, and the emergence of classes, and the all-too-human need, exponentially exacerbated by the feminine mind, for ‘not being left behind’.

    Each of these techniques provides psychological insulation from status signals of inferiority which cause humans emotional anxiety or panic, that interferes with thought, reason, and action, and instead trains the practitioner to develop varying degrees of mindfulness at the risk of addiction to the euphoria from manufacturing a mental state (the opposite of rage), that prevents him or her from productive participation with others in the division of labor that makes his religion necessary but provides his existence.

    The christian religion begins with a false debt, a false threat of not repaying it with debt servitude, and a feminine figure of love to encourage you to keep paying, in exchange for insulation from status signals, and the continuous stress of continuous adaptation to those opportunities and threats. Unfortunately just as lying and crime are cheaper means of discounting than truth and productivity, the cheap equivalent of status deception is materialism, alienation, undermining, gossiping, rallying, shaming, moralizing, psychologizing, and the rest of the feminine techniques.

    The Jewish and Islamic are far worse versions – if I had the energy I’d equally enumerate them here. The Buddhist, and Hindu are far less worse, and the stoic and Epicurean entirely truthful and good, with the family cult of hearth, and the burgher cult of law, and the aristocratic cult (the one I internalize) of ancestral pagans (war, heroism, achievement), available to those fearless of status competition, material or otherwise – playing th greatest status gam of all: the power to change the world, leave a mark upon it, and to be remembered.

    As for idle threats of debating ‘scholars’. The only people that try to debate me are people too stupid not to.

    I would crush any theological scholar. And it would be trivial because my argument always comes down to true, operational, and empirical, whereas the faithful are stuck with the sophomoric supernatural and presumed good. And stuck with agreement on consequence. I’m certain that they would avoid debating me at all costs.

    There is nothing good in our religions that cannot be explained in adult terms. But again, the difference between truth and experience exists. The temperature and frequency of red is not the same as the experience of red. There is a consequential experience from the perception of red. There is a consequential experience from the understanding of spectrum, frequency, and temperature. It is our knowledge via competition between experience and cause that prevents errors in either. All knowledge is gained by adversarial means. It must be.

    But, even such, there is little value in crushing others. My goal, which is visible in the most recent podcast (#0003) is unification via-negativa. And this effort requires continuous research. Which is what I do here: continuous improvement by trial and error, over and over again, for greater and greater precision and parsimony.

    This is not to say I consent to religious attempts at dominating others by social construction of mysticism. I won’t and can’t buy into the social construction of the illusion. It is by explaining why Jesus was correct and an innovator on one hand; why christianity was not his invention but others;. That those others had political intentions; that this ‘churchianity’ was for the purpose of destruction; and why the abrahamic dogmas compete by denial of one of gods laws – laws that explain the failure of these religions to achieve their false promises.

    Truths:

    1. The evidence of the hand of god: The Laws of nature, the natural law of sovereignty and reciprocity, the christian law of love and charity(seduction by forgiveness), and the evolutionary law of transcendence.

    2. The Group strategy of the european peoples

    (explanation of adaptive, innovative, maneuver, in time.)

    3. The political Strategy of the European Peoples

    (explanation of Trifunctionalism: military, law, faith)

    4. The social strategy of the european peoples

    (explanation of self determination: sovereignty, reciprocity, … … markets in everything)

    5. The Personal Strategy of the european peoples:

    (heroism, excellence, beauty, truth, duty, productivity, and leaving the world transformed for the better for having lived in it – seek to be remembered.)

    6. The price of the european peoples strategy.

    (explanation of the prevention of the reproduction of the unproductive so that resources can be devoted to the production of commons)

    7. The industry of the european people

    (profiting from the continuous domestication then transcendence (evolution) of man from animal to semi domesticated animal, to fully human, to the gods we imagine.)

    This is the law of the masculine european aristocracy, whether military or legal. The church is for women, children, the old, and the weak.

    Frederik was right.

    —“”Christianity … is an old metaphysical fiction, stuffed with fables, contradictions and absurdities: it was spawned in the fevered imagination of the Orientals, and then spread to our Europe, where some fanatics espoused it, where some intriguers pretended to be convinced by it and where some imbeciles actually believed it”.”—Frederick to Voltaire (June 1738).

    That said, it does WORK as a source of mindfulness, and the faithful make an exceptional citizenry for the aristocracy, and work force for the burghers, and are extremely honest in their participation in the law; and can be called to war with fervor without caution. And are the least-vulnerable to the second semitic destruction of western civilization by marxism, neo-marxism (cultural marxism), postmodernism, feminism and denialism.

    The question is – how to save it in an era where with each passing generation only the fundamentalists survive, and those who are not fundamentalists abandon both the faith, the institutions, the traditions, and loyalty and defense of the faithful.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-09 19:37:00 UTC

  • The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, an

    The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, and Natural Law. https://propertarianism.com/2020/04/09/the-choice-episode-0003-qa-catholicism-christianity-trifunctionalism-and-natural-law/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-04-09 18:23:02 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1248315498229641219

  • The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, and Natural Law.

    The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, and Natural Law.

    (Audio: download) ( Script: +E0003 )

    Contents

    By answering these questions i try to illustrate the relationship between natural law, christianity and our people. Indirectly, you’ll gain insight into the theology that I’ve been working on, and how it promotes christianity via negativa. And it provides insight on how to update christianity so that it is re-masculinized, and sustainable. I don’t know if including the questions here is valuable. They are just vehicles for explaining the ideas, so – enjoy. There is a lot of food for thought in here. -cheers.      

  • The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, and Natural Law.

    The Choice – Episode 0003 – Q&A: Catholicism, Christianity, Trifunctionalism, and Natural Law.

    (Audio: download) ( Script: +E0003 )

    Contents

    By answering these questions i try to illustrate the relationship between natural law, christianity and our people. Indirectly, you’ll gain insight into the theology that I’ve been working on, and how it promotes christianity via negativa. And it provides insight on how to update christianity so that it is re-masculinized, and sustainable. I don’t know if including the questions here is valuable. They are just vehicles for explaining the ideas, so – enjoy. There is a lot of food for thought in here. -cheers.