Theme: Religion

  • point one is non logical. You can’t testify to it then you can’t claim it’s true

    point one is non logical. You can’t testify to it then you can’t claim it’s true. You can only claim faith or belief in it, you can’t testify to it.

    Symbolism provokes a subconscious response that provokes a set of associative emotions. There are approximately zero cases where we cannot convert them to causality. Though, like all qualia, the description of a thing may be unambiguous but it is not the same as fully experiencing a thing. However, qualia is marginally indifferent across humans which is the reason we can communicate once we establish agreement on terms that define the spectrum of experience we refer to.

    I am not sure I either understand or agree with your statement on straightness since we are fully aware that physical measurements whether a plumb’s string, a chain’s length, a laser’s distance all measure a world within the limits of marginal indifference for the purpose at hand. The fact that we must compensate for context when discussing ‘lines’ and ‘straight’ is merely degree. In the plumb as the ancients did, it’s context is different from the curvature of earth when measuring landscapes as the medievals did, and is different from the movement of objects in space and time vs the speed of light as moderns do.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-24 17:12:31 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937559473159307772

  • I am a scientist not a primitive. Sorry. 😉 Operationalism … Science … … E

    I am a scientist not a primitive. Sorry. 😉

    Operationalism
    … Science
    … … Empiricism
    … … … Natural Philosophy
    … … … … Literary Philosophy
    … … … … … Theology
    … … … … … … Mythology
    … … … … … … … Anthropomorphism
    … … … … … … … … Embodiment


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-18 15:01:59 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935352298076852457

  • Well, given that the narrative of the brothers Jacob and Esau relies on african

    Well, given that the narrative of the brothers Jacob and Esau relies on african ethics from an afro-asiatic people, and that both sons are immoral trash, I don’t suppose there is much to be learned from them. Conversely, see Castor and Pollux, and Romulus and Remus. The ancient world was a violent and barbaric one, but the difference between afro-asiatic underclasses and european upper classes is obvious.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-18 03:17:53 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935175104192741717

  • Well, their ethnically persian (in the main) even if arabized (with a lower iq).

    Well, their ethnically persian (in the main) even if arabized (with a lower iq). They have had a developed civ as recently as the 70s (I remember it). In islamic religion they are the equivalent of the protestants (reformation to secularism).
    So they have some things going for them. Just like they have others against them.
    Imagine what happens if the Israelis get hold of the intel data that shows all the contacts and relations with the Houthis, et al.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-18 02:32:14 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935163618297037214

  • RE: US PARTICIPATION IN THE ISRAELI WAR AGAINST IRAN’S ISLAMIST I should have st

    RE: US PARTICIPATION IN THE ISRAELI WAR AGAINST IRAN’S ISLAMIST

    I should have stated this yesterday, but for those who are still thinking about it:

    1) Trump is adamant about ending the Iranian nuclear program. It’s well insulated underground. Israel does not have bunker busters. I am almost positive that the USA will a ‘augment’ the Israeli effort with the use of bunker busters.

    2) The USA will then expand attacks on military facilities until achieving unconditional surrender.

    3) The remaining problem will be the lack of a regime in Iran, and a lack of legitimacy of both Israelis and the USA in any attempt to produce the equivalent of a Marshall Plan of Iranian recovery.

    4) I have no read on King Pahlavi, though it would create international legitimacy, solve the leadership issue quickly, and quicken the formation of a government, without some anti-islamist forces in Iran, building them will be a risk, and risk will persist as it has elsewhere.

    We can easily create another catastrophe like Iraq. Unless the Iranian people can form a government quickly, and purge the remaining islamists.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-18 01:40:57 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935150710498492717

  • MEANING: Religiosity=>caused by trait Empathizing. In other words those who enjo

    MEANING: Religiosity=>caused by trait Empathizing. In other words those who enjoy the company of others, and the emotional life of others, are more likely to invest in the manufacture of that experience through children, family, and others of the same familial organization. It is amplified by low neuroticism and high conscientiousness.
    We have known for decades that religiosity is a derivation of those personality traits MORE than IQ.
    -CD


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-17 23:53:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935123668331544685

  • My good friend Rudyard is as biased in favor of religion and subjective experien

    My good friend Rudyard is as biased in favor of religion and subjective experience of the empathic as I am of science, philosophy, objective secularism. I do not see a repetition of the supernatural reformation of the bronze age. I see a secularization more along the lines of natural religion of nationalism and ancestor worship on one hand and the ongoing secular humanism and related philosophical positions on the other.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-06-16 02:31:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934438542803087534

  • “We’re done talking philosophy, now it’s time for action”– Well, I would argue

    –“We’re done talking philosophy, now it’s time for action”–
    Well, I would argue the problem for the right as well as the left is Overdeterminism of religion (right supernatural, left pseuoscientific), bad if not entirely childish philosophy (feminine destructive left, masculine constrictive right), but worse a near total lack of understanding and knowledge of the distribution of human abilities, nature, and competence; A total ignorance of what made us successful vs others; a total ignorance of engineering society via-negativa by law and institutions. In other words childish simplicity.

    The reason the right fails is the same the left fails. A failure to propose operational means of running a polity to prevent assymetry of returns between the masculine capitalizing (conservative) and the feminine hyperconsuming (progressive).

    The right is as dumb, ignorant, impulsive, and childish as the left. It’s just that the right is correct in diagnosis of those problems of decadence and hyperconsumption the left finds pleasure in.

    As for modes of thinking, operations (engineering) human behavior such that we maximize the suppression of the consumptive and the expansion of capitalization.

    Science and operationalism tell us only what is true independent of our want or preference. What is good and within our want or preference will forever be the domain of philosophy and rational choice.

    The problem then is the false attribution of wisdom to philosophy instead of theology and mythology, the attribution of truth instead of preference and good to philosophy and reason, and the attribution of truth to empirical and correlative science instead of as true as we can testify to at present, when the only truth we can ever know in total is causality (operationalism), which is, at least at the scale of elements comprehensible, even if at present the quantum background and what if anything lies beneath it are beyond our present capacity observe and measure.


    Source date (UTC): 2025-05-30 15:25:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1928472814958608589

  • Comparison of European Supernormal and Semitic Supernatural Gods –“This analysi

    Comparison of European Supernormal and Semitic Supernatural Gods

    –“This analysis compares the “supernormal” gods of Indo-European traditions (Rigveda, Norse, Celtic) with the “supernatural” gods of Semitic traditions (Mesopotamian, Canaanite, and early Jewish), focusing on their theological roles, characteristics, and cultural implications. The Indo-European gods, rooted in steppe pastoralist culture, are relatable, human-like figures tied to natural forces and heroic ideals. In contrast, Semitic gods are often transcendent, authoritative, and linked to urban hierarchies, as emphasized in Mesopotamian myths like the Enuma Elish. This comparison challenges David Livingstone’s thesis in The Dying God that Mesopotamian “dying god” myths are the primary drivers of Western civilization.

    European Supernormal Gods (Indo-European: Rigveda, Norse, Celtic)

    1. Human-Like and Relatable Qualities

    Rigveda: Gods like Indra, the thunder-wielding warrior, are depicted as anthropomorphic, with human traits like bravery, cunning, and even flaws (RV 1.32). Indra drinks soma, battles Vritra, and aids humans, acting as a heroic ally rather than an aloof ruler. The Ashvins, divine horsemen, intervene directly in human affairs (RV 1.116), reflecting accessibility.

    Norse: Thor, the thunder god, is a relatable figure with a hammer (Mjölnir) and a temper, fighting giants to protect humans (Poetic Edda, Þrymskviða). Odin, despite his wisdom, is a wanderer who sacrifices himself for knowledge (Hávamál), showing human-like ambition and struggle.

    Celtic: Lugh, the Irish warrior-god, is multi-skilled and approachable, leading battles and aiding heroes (Cath Maige Tuired). Taranis, the thunder god, is tied to natural phenomena, with human-like vigor. Celtic gods often interact closely with humans, as seen in tales of divine aid in Táin Bó Cúailnge.

    Supernormal Trait: Indo-European gods are “supernormal” in their exaggerated human qualities—strength, courage, or cunning—making them relatable figures who embody the steppe’s warrior ethos and clan-based cooperation. They are not distant but part of the natural and social world.

    2. Tied to Natural Forces and Cosmic Order

    Rigveda: Gods are linked to natural phenomena (Indra: thunder, Agni: fire, Soma: ritual drink) and uphold rita, the cosmic and moral order (RV 10.90, Purusha Sukta). Their power is tied to the natural world, not a transcendent realm.

    Norse: Thor’s storms and Odin’s winds (Völuspá) connect gods to nature. The cosmos, created from Ymir’s body, is organic, with gods maintaining balance through action, not divine decree.

    Celtic: Taranis’ thunder and the Dagda’s control over fertility (Cath Maige Tuired) tie gods to the earth and seasons. Druids’ rituals emphasize harmony with nature, not submission to a cosmic ruler.

    Supernormal Trait: Indo-European gods are immanent, embedded in the natural world, reflecting the steppe’s mobile, pastoralist lifestyle where nature and human action are intertwined.

    3. Heroic and Decentralized Authority

    Rigveda: Indra’s leadership is earned through heroic deeds, not divine mandate (RV 1.32). The pantheon lacks a rigid hierarchy, with gods like Varuna or Agni sharing roles cooperatively.

    Norse: Odin leads the Æsir but is challenged by other gods and giants (Poetic Edda). Thor’s authority stems from his strength, not absolute rule. The gods’ power is decentralized, mirroring clan-based societies.

    Celtic: Lugh’s leadership in battle (Cath Maige Tuired) is based on skill, not divine right. Celtic gods operate in loose alliances, reflecting tribal autonomy.

    Supernormal Trait: Indo-European gods reflect the steppe’s egalitarian ethos, where authority is earned through action, not imposed. This contrasts with the hierarchical divine kingship of Semitic traditions.

    Semitic Supernatural Gods (Mesopotamian, Canaanite, Jewish)

    1. Transcendent and Authoritative

    Mesopotamian: In the Enuma Elish (c. 18th–12th century BCE), Marduk ascends to supreme ruler by defeating Tiamat, establishing a divine kingship. Gods like Enlil or Inanna demand human submission, mediated by priests in urban temples.

    Canaanite: El, the head of the Canaanite pantheon (Ugaritic Texts, c. 14th century BCE), is a distant, supreme deity, with Baal as a storm god subordinate to him. Their authority is cosmic and absolute, detached from human relatability.

    Jewish: Yahweh, in early Jewish tradition (e.g., Exodus 20), is a transcendent, singular god who demands exclusive worship and obedience, far removed from human-like traits.

    Supernatural Trait: Semitic gods are “supernatural” in their transcendence, existing above the natural world and human experience, with absolute authority over creation.

    2. Tied to Urban Hierarchies and Divine Kingship

    Mesopotamian: Marduk’s victory in the Enuma Elish establishes Babylon’s primacy, with humans created to serve gods (Tablet VI). Temples and priestly classes reinforce divine-human separation, reflecting urban Mesopotamia’s centralized societies.

    Canaanite: Baal’s battles (Baal Cycle) reinforce his role within a divine hierarchy under El, tied to city-state politics in Ugarit. Worship is formalized through temples and rituals.

    Jewish: Yahweh’s covenant (Deuteronomy 6) establishes a divine law, with priests and prophets as intermediaries, reflecting a shift from polytheistic hierarchies to monotheistic authority.

    Supernatural Trait: Semitic gods are linked to urban, hierarchical societies, with divine authority mirroring kingship and requiring institutional mediation, unlike the direct, clan-based worship of Indo-European gods.

    3. Dying and Resurrecting Gods

    Mesopotamian: The “dying god” archetype, central to Livingstone’s thesis, is evident in Tammuz, who dies and resurrects seasonally, tied to agricultural cycles (Inanna’s Descent). This reflects Mesopotamia’s sedentary, fertility-focused culture.

    Canaanite: Baal’s death and revival in the Baal Cycle parallel Tammuz, emphasizing cyclical renewal for urban agricultural societies.

    Jewish: Early Jewish theology lacks a dying god, but later Christian influences (e.g., Jesus’ resurrection) adapt this motif, aligning with Semitic cyclical themes.

    Supernatural Trait: The dying-resurrecting god, absent in Indo-European traditions, underscores Semitic gods’ connection to agricultural cycles and divine transcendence, contrasting with the enduring, warrior-like Indo-European gods.

    Key Divergences and Implications for Livingstone’s Thesis

    Theological Nature: Indo-European “supernormal” gods are immanent, human-like, and tied to natural forces, reflecting the steppe’s mobile, egalitarian ethos. Semitic “supernatural” gods are transcendent, authoritative, and linked to urban hierarchies, emphasizing submission.

    Cultural Context: Indo-European gods mirror the decentralized, warrior-led societies of the Yamnaya and related cultures (c. 3000 BCE), seen in the Rigveda’s Indra, Norse Thor, and Celtic Lugh. Semitic gods reflect Mesopotamia’s urban, priest-mediated societies, as in Marduk or Baal.

    Mythological Focus: Indo-European myths emphasize heroic endurance and cosmic order through sacrifice (RV 10.90, Völuspá), not cyclical death. Semitic myths, with dying-resurrecting gods like Tammuz, focus on agricultural renewal, central to Livingstone’s argument.

    Critique of Livingstone: Livingstone’s The Dying God overstates the influence of Mesopotamian “dying god” myths on Western civilization. The supernormal gods of Indo-European traditions, dominant in Europe’s cultural foundation, show little trace of this motif until Christianization introduced Semitic elements (e.g., Jesus’ resurrection). Europe’s “confidence and clarity,” as you noted, stems from Indo-European steppe heritage, not Mesopotamian causality.”–


    Source date (UTC): 2025-05-29 02:59:57 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1927922834912989625

  • “The “supernormal” gods of Indo-European traditions (Rigveda, Norse, Celtic) are

    —“The “supernormal” gods of Indo-European traditions (Rigveda, Norse, Celtic) are human-like, nature-bound, and heroic, reflecting the steppe’s decentralized, warrior ethos. In contrast, the “supernatural” gods of Semitic traditions (Mesopotamian, Canaanite, Jewish) are transcendent, hierarchical, and tied to urban agricultural societies, with dying-resurrecting motifs absent in Indo-European myths. This divergence undermines Livingstone’s claim of a Mesopotamian-driven Western civilization, affirming the primacy of Indo-European cultural foundations in Europe, as shaped by steppe migrations.”–


    Source date (UTC): 2025-05-29 02:14:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1927911379375378683