Theme: Religion

  • Religion Solved a Calculation Problem

    Religion Solved a Calculation Problem https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/religion-solved-a-calculation-problem/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 17:55:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265703222402002944

  • Religion Solved a Calculation Problem

    Oct 9, 2019, 12:51 PM (core) Religion provides mindfulness. mindfulness is produced by personal sedation of powerlessness, interpersonal accounting of reciprocity, social accounting of position in hierarchy, and economic accounting of proportionality, and political insurance (defense). So to say a religion provides morality is false. A religion provides the means of instructing us on a given strategy for the preservation of reciprocity and proportionality which always and everywhere describes morality. So while we demand mindfulness across that spectrum, the only one that is not reproducible by law is personal sedation of powerlessness – which can be produced by any ritualistic means – the most scientific of which is what we call the stoic method of self construction, or what is called, cognitive behavioral therapy, and the epicurean objective (living within your means), and the social experience of collective feast, oath, sport, and festival. The ‘evil’ in the abrahamic religions is insidious on at least the following counts: abrahamic lying, denial of reality, submission instead of achievement, surrender instead of action, and the falsehood of equality, the falsehood of man as fallen angel among evil humans, rather than man as risen beast domesticated by his betters. Religion solves a problem native to consciousness which is the evolution of man in small groups where he and she have agency and full knowledge of one another and insurance of one another instead of anonymity in a chaotic world with none of the above. Institutional religion evolved as a pre-literate law code that could be taught by recitation of parables and stories, which was the only means of teaching in the era. So religion evolves into law evolves into science. And in science (Truth) we are the gods – there are none other. And those we call gods are but the memories of those who came before us, and the visions of what we wish to become. Because that is all our brains are capable of creating. I don’t err often and as far as I know all improvement in understanding of religion will simply continue to increase the precision of this description. Cheers

  • Religion Solved a Calculation Problem

    Oct 9, 2019, 12:51 PM (core) Religion provides mindfulness. mindfulness is produced by personal sedation of powerlessness, interpersonal accounting of reciprocity, social accounting of position in hierarchy, and economic accounting of proportionality, and political insurance (defense). So to say a religion provides morality is false. A religion provides the means of instructing us on a given strategy for the preservation of reciprocity and proportionality which always and everywhere describes morality. So while we demand mindfulness across that spectrum, the only one that is not reproducible by law is personal sedation of powerlessness – which can be produced by any ritualistic means – the most scientific of which is what we call the stoic method of self construction, or what is called, cognitive behavioral therapy, and the epicurean objective (living within your means), and the social experience of collective feast, oath, sport, and festival. The ‘evil’ in the abrahamic religions is insidious on at least the following counts: abrahamic lying, denial of reality, submission instead of achievement, surrender instead of action, and the falsehood of equality, the falsehood of man as fallen angel among evil humans, rather than man as risen beast domesticated by his betters. Religion solves a problem native to consciousness which is the evolution of man in small groups where he and she have agency and full knowledge of one another and insurance of one another instead of anonymity in a chaotic world with none of the above. Institutional religion evolved as a pre-literate law code that could be taught by recitation of parables and stories, which was the only means of teaching in the era. So religion evolves into law evolves into science. And in science (Truth) we are the gods – there are none other. And those we call gods are but the memories of those who came before us, and the visions of what we wish to become. Because that is all our brains are capable of creating. I don’t err often and as far as I know all improvement in understanding of religion will simply continue to increase the precision of this description. Cheers

  • The Three Methods of Coercion

    Oct 10, 2019, 9:06 AM 1 – Force (masculine) – By Law or Military 2 – Payment (libertarian) – By Trade – or Payment 3 – Undermining (feminine) – By Gossip or Religion That’s what you’ve got to work with. That’s it.

    1. The Russians and Chinese use force: Command
    2. The West uses Libertarian: sovereignty and reciprocity
    3. The Semites use undermining: Priesthoods
  • The Three Methods of Coercion

    Oct 10, 2019, 9:06 AM 1 – Force (masculine) – By Law or Military 2 – Payment (libertarian) – By Trade – or Payment 3 – Undermining (feminine) – By Gossip or Religion That’s what you’ve got to work with. That’s it.

    1. The Russians and Chinese use force: Command
    2. The West uses Libertarian: sovereignty and reciprocity
    3. The Semites use undermining: Priesthoods
  • My Position on Christianity

    My Position on Christianity https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/my-position-on-christianity/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 17:43:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265700156114194434

  • My Position on Christianity

    Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add this: 1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    1. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.
    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXCLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    • Curt
  • My Position on Christianity

    Oct 12, 2019, 11:12 AM (core)(important) To John’s explanation, I’ll add this: 1. SUPPRESSION OF FALSEHOOD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES – My work has a nearly single minded objective, and that ending lying in public speech. So, I’m not complaining about just christianity, but the falsehoods by which the abrahamic religions are constructed, the means of conveying those falsehoods, the consequences of teaching christians how to lie using the abrahamic method, and the consequences of christians lying using the abrahamic method, that makes the entire polity vulnerable to marxist, feminine, postmodern pseudoscience, sophism and denial, just as christianity judaism and islam were spread by supernaturalism, sophism, and denial of reality. As such my objective is the opposite of Augustine and Aquinas, which is to integrate greek reason into christianity on supernatural terms, and instead integrate christianity into western science and reason on scientific terms.

    1. A POLITICAL RELIGION – Christianity, when expressed in secular scientific terms, is in fact an optimum SOCIAL and adequate PERSONAL religion even if it is not an optimum POLITICAL religion -which is why it failed to achieve what islam and judaism did, and why it has declined rapidly in the modern era. My goal is to license political religion so that we cannot be undermined again.
    2. RESTORING A STATE RELIGION TO EXCLUDE OTHERS – I’m trying to discover a way to make christianity a state religion by converting it to secular terms – this is possible because christianity and only christianity among the abrahamic religions is compatible with natural law. Christians despise the fact that the lessons of christianity in scientific terms, are optimum strategies for social cooperation at least at interpersonal scale. Because the magic and ‘woo woo’ is lost by doing so restoring dependence upon reason, instead of allowing us to fall into pacifist intuition where we can abandon reason. (which is why religions work to sedate humans.) So over the long term I work to produce a christian law that is inviolate, like sharia, so to speak, from the natural law, and the christian extension of the natural law, by the exhaustion of forgiveness before retaliation or prosecution.

    3. RESTORING THE BALANCE OF POWERS – If I can convert Christianity to secular terms I can restore the church as the political agency responsible for the individual and family, limiting the government to the material, and restore competition between family-church and commerce-government, and military-state. It is this division and competition i’m seeking to restore. (I don’t tell you these things because they taint the audience by letting them know my purposes. I only explain afterward, so that my attacks on any given subject make sense in retrospect. In other words, I’m a scientist. I run tests. The public willing to engage in intellectually honest discourse serves as my testing laboratory.)

    4. MULTIPLE CLASSES MULTIPLE RELIGIONS, SAME MESSAGE – All religions are class religions. Westerners practice a personal religion of Jesus (lower), a social religion of christianity (middle), an secular religion of philosophy (upper middle), a political religion of the law and the sciences that extend the law (upper). The Chinese have confucianism, the Dao, and buddhism, nationalism and familialism. Every culture other than judaism and islam have class religions. And we have and need our class religions.

    5. MULTIPLE GENDERS: ADD MASCULINITY TO RELIGION – There are those of us for whom the philosophy of secular christianity – it’s cooperation – is merely valuable, but for whom our ancestors, culture, nation, civilization are more precious than the false promise of an evil semitic god. And so if we categorize heathenry as the thanks to nature not denial of it, and paganism as thanks to heroes of our history, and the archetypes that are non-submissive to nature and heroic in achievement rather than heroic in tolerance. So I am continuing my process of investigation into whether it is possible to unite these scientific, natural, and christian, traditions in a constitution, that prohibits competition by which to undermine them. And whether they can be practiced together or separately. So again, I see myself trying to unite western civilization against further destruction. And I am doing so by the same means as did those great men who came before me, in every great time of change.

    There is a deep method to the appearance of my madness. Do not assume you grasp what I am doing. Much of what I do requires I maintain your ignorance of what I am doing, in order to ensure I collect quality information from the population. This is how all behavioral science must be conducted. And it’s how I conduct it.

    • Curt
  • Ex-Propertarians Always Sound Like Jilted Ex-Girlfriends

    Oct 12, 2019, 1:50 PM by Predmetsky Rosenborg Ex-Propertarians always sound like jilted ex-girlfriends:

    –“and that non-operationalizable “abrahamism” word”–

    Operationalizing abrahamism is easy…high verbal IQ (median about 129) combined with low visual-spatial (there goes the calculating for physical costs and forces…) care-harm fundamentalism produced by high openness to experience (often correlated with high schizotypy) and agreeableness, moral module predisposes to vulnerable rather than grandiose narcissism (or callous-unemotional as a stand-alone construct), and the predictably high dispositional envy that accompanies it, leading to reversal of hierarchy (the good are evil and the bad are good) — Christianity is Jewish hatred’s most delicate flower of ressentiment rather than its repudiation. All of these things have been operationalized with as much precision as you can find in good psychometrics anywhere. What I’m interested in is in operationalizing sex differences as inherently relative to race (to say nothing of species) rather than considering them as stand-alone constructs. For example, East Asian masculinity and Ashkenazi masculinity and Caucasian masculinity must always be operationalized and studied together and can only ever be separated analytically. sort of like how some lemur species are female-dominant for biological reasons. Most lemur species are female dominant, but only most. So we can speak of mouse lemur (microcebus)-femininity, dwarf lemur (cheirogaleidaes)-femininity, mongoose lemur (lemuridae)-femininity as female dominant instances whereas brown lemur-femininity is more submissive.

  • Ex-Propertarians Always Sound Like Jilted Ex-Girlfriends

    Oct 12, 2019, 1:50 PM by Predmetsky Rosenborg Ex-Propertarians always sound like jilted ex-girlfriends:

    –“and that non-operationalizable “abrahamism” word”–

    Operationalizing abrahamism is easy…high verbal IQ (median about 129) combined with low visual-spatial (there goes the calculating for physical costs and forces…) care-harm fundamentalism produced by high openness to experience (often correlated with high schizotypy) and agreeableness, moral module predisposes to vulnerable rather than grandiose narcissism (or callous-unemotional as a stand-alone construct), and the predictably high dispositional envy that accompanies it, leading to reversal of hierarchy (the good are evil and the bad are good) — Christianity is Jewish hatred’s most delicate flower of ressentiment rather than its repudiation. All of these things have been operationalized with as much precision as you can find in good psychometrics anywhere. What I’m interested in is in operationalizing sex differences as inherently relative to race (to say nothing of species) rather than considering them as stand-alone constructs. For example, East Asian masculinity and Ashkenazi masculinity and Caucasian masculinity must always be operationalized and studied together and can only ever be separated analytically. sort of like how some lemur species are female-dominant for biological reasons. Most lemur species are female dominant, but only most. So we can speak of mouse lemur (microcebus)-femininity, dwarf lemur (cheirogaleidaes)-femininity, mongoose lemur (lemuridae)-femininity as female dominant instances whereas brown lemur-femininity is more submissive.