Theme: Religion

  • Yeah, this was the hard problem I ran up against when working on religion throug

    Yeah, this was the hard problem I ran up against when working on religion through 2018-2019. Technically speaking, abrahamic religions and all fundamentalism is lying through your teeth to bait people into the hazard of ignorance, superstition, submission and defeat.
    That said, there is something to be said for the jeffersonian bible, which treats jesus as a semitic philosopher trying to solve the problem of tribalism, lying, deceit, fraud, undermining, and corruption pervasive then as well as now.
    From the European perspective, europeanism is an aristocratic and military strategy, philosophy, and religion where man may seek to defeat corrupt and spurious gods through use of wit and technology, duty and loyalty. The conquered, enserfed, enslaved, or rule, and lower classes were treated as property – another domesticated animal that was difficult to civilize (same as today).
    So while the western empire was developing it’s own more generalized cult that would have matured into an equally civilizing moral tradition for the bottom classes, the eastern empire saw the opportunity to defeat the western empire and take control by imposing the religion and replacing the (failed state) bureacracy, and preventing a restoration of that martial discipline and european traditions.
    So christianity did solve a problem by allowing the integration of the classes from the bottom up – instead as was occurring, from the top down. But the result was a dark age of ignorance, the impossiiblity of the aristocracy to recover the state.
    So what do we do? Is it primitive to think a religion other than stoicism for men, the four agreements for women and children, state, ethnicity, ancestor, hero, and nature worship (all worship is debt service) and thus a non-false religion. From there the only philosophy necessary is the natural law of cooperation and the continued advancement of the sciences. Restore the family instead of the individual as the primary goal of policy, and suppress all frauds and fals promises, and most importantly all female means of responsibilty evasion undermining and justification of irresponsibily and hyperconsumption.
    The answers are possible. But Christianity is a dead weight. However it may be the only ballast that is possible to float a revolution.

    Reply addressees: @giggityup @radiofreenw


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-05 00:22:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776042716729573376

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775987219263795212

  • RT @Plinz: There is no need to disprove mythology, because statements without ra

    RT @Plinz: There is no need to disprove mythology, because statements without rational justification have no epistemic weight. Eg, the expe…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-04 17:10:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775933997622919475

  • You cannot make that claim as other than faith. Sorry

    You cannot make that claim as other than faith. Sorry.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-02 05:05:38 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775026785111232770

    Reply addressees: @doczoliday @MinClaydough

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774998152019394694

  • Don’t be silly. I’m trying to reinvent a non false religion. If I do the science

    Don’t be silly. I’m trying to reinvent a non false religion. If I do the science well enough, and I think I have, then maybe someone or some group will come up with a solution.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-02 02:05:40 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774981494156472415

    Reply addressees: @14WordsAllDay

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774980268513784193

  • (critics) Look, I’m quite open that I’m an elitist, a snob, and a disagreeable,

    (critics)
    Look, I’m quite open that I’m an elitist, a snob, and a disagreeable, in the anglo aristocratic tradition. But under noblesse oblige, which is a very christian ethic, I fully adhere to the demand for responsibility from those of us with gifts achievements and luck in life, to take care of the common people – that’s paternalism at its best. And loving devotion and loyalty to the people does not require a pretense of equality. In fact, it often requires the opposite. Else I would not have given up everything to work on the salvation of our people from the crisis of this age. If someone else were making the same or better progress than we are I would happily go back to making money, driving exotic cars, and celebrating attractive women. But moral obligation calls. If you had such a choice to make, would you, as I have, made the choice in favor of your people rather than yourself? I doubt it. Few of us do.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-02 01:37:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774974301797597184

  • Jesus As The End of The Religious Project? –“… as far as I know, Brad is righ

    Jesus As The End of The Religious Project?
    –“… as far as I know, Brad is right “religion ended with jesus”. What we do next is closer to spiritualism, philosophy, and public ritual.”–

    What does that mean?
    I think he meant that he reduced it to the simplest form that achieves the desired purpose of religion as the production of mindfulness that solves the prisoners’ dilemma of cooperation and trust.
    In that sense I believe he is correct. So if you take the very simple via-negativa of Natural Law and add the very simple via-positiva of the four gospels of jesus then you have the most reductive set of negativa and positiva possible.
    In other words, logic is not justificationary, and truth requires falsification, so the criteria for truth is adversarial competition (darwinian selection so to speak) between a via negativa (what not to do) and a via positiva (what to do).
    As such our solution to Natural Law and Jesus’ teaching (the jeffersonian bible) are the bookends necessary for a complete pursuit of truth and goodness – what remains is duty, excellence, and beauty. And that comes from ancient european aesthetics and philosophy.

    Cheers.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-02 00:55:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774963798748565504

  • This is correct. (As usual.) We could retrace the steps back to around seven hun

    This is correct. (As usual.) We could retrace the steps back to around seven hundred to further reinforce the argument.

    More for those that are interested:
    The insight that protestantism was reactionary is a bit painful to admit but it’s true that while the church’s corruption was pervasive and against the interests of the northern localities, doubling down on fundamentalism took protestantism away from the natural law program and the use of dogma and theology instead. The family structure of northern europe, it’s restoration of trade, the independence of the cities, the weakness of the holy roman empire (federation), and the rise of literacy were more important in the re-ascendence of europe than was protestantism. In other words, Max Weber had it backwards.
    In America the protestant church was highly participatory, and essentially a debate forum for the construction of consensus. This was probably useful. And unfortunately the tradition was lost. Because it was lost, we failed to produce a competitor to the postwar capture of education by the marxist sequence.
    But we are still suffering from the combination of the failure of the catholic church to produce another Aquinas during the industrial revolution and fully transform once again with more emphasis on natural law and its harmony with christian ethics and morality and thus complete the transformation to a european religion – and the doubling down of american protestant christian fundamentalism that is preventing a synthesis, and the capture of the academy by the marxist sequence of seditions against christianity as well as the philosophical traditions.

    In other words, Rudyard is pretty much always right. 😉

    Cheers

    Reply addressees: @whatifalthist @MattRosendin @WKahneman


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-01 23:51:33 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774947741547814912

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774939216151015821

  • Take every intellectual in the context of his bias. AFAIK, critics claim Christi

    Take every intellectual in the context of his bias.
    AFAIK, critics claim Christianity prevented Roman recovery once Rome was in deep trouble and less so th the great crisis and onward.

    Over-expansion, over-immigration, insufficient aristocratic reproduction, cost of maintaining the empire, bureaucratic failure, lack of sufficient tech of communication, war of the great migrations, and empowerment of others by the Roman peace.

    Same as now.

    Reply addressees: @partymember55


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-01 21:38:27 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774914245752152065

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774882656322273624

  • RT @AutistocratMS: @curtdoolittle @Logos_Elect Like I said to him, Christianity

    RT @AutistocratMS: @curtdoolittle @Logos_Elect Like I said to him, Christianity spread through the Roman empire when native faiths were all…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-01 17:04:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774845250311188736

  • RT @SurragoMichael: @habsburglar @curtdoolittle @Logos_Elect The native faiths o

    RT @SurragoMichael: @habsburglar @curtdoolittle @Logos_Elect The native faiths of E have no response to the MO of any religion that:
    1. Rec…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-04-01 16:13:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1774832396887585259