Theme: Religion

  • Claiming that a deity is separate from the universe is always going to fail the

    Claiming that a deity is separate from the universe is always going to fail the test of time because there is nowhere for the information we call the deity to exist and no means of its action. Claiming deities are emergent (evolve) and that’s why there are so many of them, works.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-21 02:05:42 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329969201965117441

    Reply addressees: @campbel763

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329965883050106882

  • At best, the Christians are stuck with either an omniscient omnipotent, omnipres

    At best, the Christians are stuck with either an omniscient omnipotent, omnipresent, designed evolution, a non-interceding god and an emergent Jesus, or emergent evolution, an emergent deity, interceding through Jesus. The thing is, the latter choice is scientifically defensible.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-21 01:56:59 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329967010164461568

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329964962735939586


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    Deities are systems of anthropomorphic measurement easily comprehensible to the animal intuitions of the pre-rational human mind, by providing an imitable, empathizeable, sympathizable, agent, parent, or headman, archetype of the group’s competitive evolutionary strategy.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1329964962735939586

  • Deities are systems of anthropomorphic measurement easily comprehensible to the

    Deities are systems of anthropomorphic measurement easily comprehensible to the animal intuitions of the pre-rational human mind, by providing an imitable, empathizeable, sympathizable, agent, parent, or headman, archetype of the group’s competitive evolutionary strategy.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-21 01:48:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329964962735939586

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329964959665582080


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    Hmm. An omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent deity would never intercede because to do so would require it failed at omniscience. All existence, all cause, and all consequence must be deterministic, and no choice or action ever necessary. If deities exist they cannot be “o, o, o”.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1329964959665582080

  • Hmm. An omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent deity would never intercede because

    Hmm. An omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent deity would never intercede because to do so would require it failed at omniscience. All existence, all cause, and all consequence must be deterministic, and no choice or action ever necessary. If deities exist they cannot be “o, o, o”.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-21 01:48:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329964959665582080

  • Q&A: “Curt: What are the Parts of Christianity that we can push forward.”

    Q&A: “Curt: What are the Parts of Christianity that we can push forward.” https://propertarianinstitute.com/2020/11/20/qa-curt-what-are-the-parts-of-christianity-that-we-can-push-forward/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-20 03:03:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329621255381803008

  • Q&A: “Curt: What are the Parts of Christianity that we can push forward.”

    —“Mr. Doolittle, I have a question for you. What are the non-parasitic parts of Christianity that we can push forward, and how do we solve the problem of leftist progressive subversion in the Church? I’m a Christian so as you can imagine, this issue is close to me.”— A Friend

      This is a deep discussion and please realize that it’s people like you I most definitely want to make happy if at all possible. Some people are church-ists ( authority, institutions, social mindfulness), some people are bible-ists (words, meaning, mental mindfulness), and some people are jesus-ists (Person, Role model, emotional mindfulness ). Jesus solved the problem of the prisoner’s dilemma – the ultimate problem of human cooperation. Jesus stands as one of the great thinkers in history, and a role model for all of us regardless of what reasons we have for justifying his teachings. There are three ways of interpreting Jesus. As the evidence of divine intent, as emergently divine, or as a philosopher. But we all vary a bit in our psychology. And we all have different psychological needs. So whether choose to see him as the hand of God, as a prophet, or as a philosopher, is a psychological choice. And that choice is a personal one. The science says he was right regardless of our psychological needs. As long as we behave as he instructs then the reason we choose to do so is not material except to our own psychology.

    The net result is that what he says to do, regardless of how he says it, is the scientifically optimum means of human existence. Period. And in simple terms: If Jesus said it, then it’s Christian. If anyone else did, it isn’t. It’s an opinion, storytelling, mythology, or worse. And the only part of Christianity that’s certainly, scientifically, true is the role model he gives us. There is a reason the catholic church stopped using the bible and incrementally evolved dogma as a merger of philosophy and theology.As I’ve said before we have seen the collapse of the traditional churches. We have seen a 50/50 split between people abandoning religion and joining fundamentalist groups. We have a good idea of why that is – but it doesn’t matter. What we have not done is modernize the people and the dogma, and the functions of the church to fill the needs of modernity, and to provide the three different interpretations of Jesus to three different audiences, whether fundamentalist, traditionalist ritualists or secular philosophicals. I am fairly sure I know how to do that but to test that theory would take a great deal of time and effort and political will. It may however be necessary to defend our civilization against the evils that seek to convert us to worse ideologies.
    I do science. I’m not critical of Jesus at all just the opposite. However, I have to separate Jesus from the fictional literature of the bible, from the corruption of the church in claiming that the bible’s wisdom literature is history, and from the dark ages of ignorance the church and her corruption subject our people to.  
  • Q&A: “Curt: What are the Parts of Christianity that we can push forward.”

    —“Mr. Doolittle, I have a question for you. What are the non-parasitic parts of Christianity that we can push forward, and how do we solve the problem of leftist progressive subversion in the Church? I’m a Christian so as you can imagine, this issue is close to me.”— A Friend

      This is a deep discussion and please realize that it’s people like you I most definitely want to make happy if at all possible. Some people are church-ists ( authority, institutions, social mindfulness), some people are bible-ists (words, meaning, mental mindfulness), and some people are jesus-ists (Person, Role model, emotional mindfulness ). Jesus solved the problem of the prisoner’s dilemma – the ultimate problem of human cooperation. Jesus stands as one of the great thinkers in history, and a role model for all of us regardless of what reasons we have for justifying his teachings. There are three ways of interpreting Jesus. As the evidence of divine intent, as emergently divine, or as a philosopher. But we all vary a bit in our psychology. And we all have different psychological needs. So whether choose to see him as the hand of God, as a prophet, or as a philosopher, is a psychological choice. And that choice is a personal one. The science says he was right regardless of our psychological needs. As long as we behave as he instructs then the reason we choose to do so is not material except to our own psychology.

    The net result is that what he says to do, regardless of how he says it, is the scientifically optimum means of human existence. Period. And in simple terms: If Jesus said it, then it’s Christian. If anyone else did, it isn’t. It’s an opinion, storytelling, mythology, or worse. And the only part of Christianity that’s certainly, scientifically, true is the role model he gives us. There is a reason the catholic church stopped using the bible and incrementally evolved dogma as a merger of philosophy and theology.As I’ve said before we have seen the collapse of the traditional churches. We have seen a 50/50 split between people abandoning religion and joining fundamentalist groups. We have a good idea of why that is – but it doesn’t matter. What we have not done is modernize the people and the dogma, and the functions of the church to fill the needs of modernity, and to provide the three different interpretations of Jesus to three different audiences, whether fundamentalist, traditionalist ritualists or secular philosophicals. I am fairly sure I know how to do that but to test that theory would take a great deal of time and effort and political will. It may however be necessary to defend our civilization against the evils that seek to convert us to worse ideologies.
    I do science. I’m not critical of Jesus at all just the opposite. However, I have to separate Jesus from the fictional literature of the bible, from the corruption of the church in claiming that the bible’s wisdom literature is history, and from the dark ages of ignorance the church and her corruption subject our people to.  
  • If you understood Nietzche, despite his sad German romanticism, and understood t

    If you understood Nietzche, despite his sad German romanticism, and understood the ancients without the domesticated Christian Victorian veneer, you’d understand adversarialism in pursuit of excellence, not compromise is the optimum empirical, european ethic and aesthetic.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-19 23:56:15 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329574238521593856

  • (FYI: the longest chapter in my book so far is on religion. The central complain

    (FYI: the longest chapter in my book so far is on religion. The central complaint is that false religions are unnecessary, true religions appear to be, and we know how to create non-false religions, but false religions are resistance movements against mecessary market eugenics.)


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-19 16:47:26 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329466323022311426

    Reply addressees: @Anthroposcenics @CosmicSkeptic

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329453464762650627

  • The Christians only sought to expand charity by interpersonal(empirical) redistr

    The Christians only sought to expand charity by interpersonal(empirical) redistribution to others in exchange for conformity to our traditions (Europen group strategy is uniquely scientific).The LEFT tried to WAR AGAINST US through the new institution of fiat money and democracy.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-11-19 16:16:11 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329458457662124039

    Reply addressees: @DavidOAtkins

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329290860672872449