Theme: Religion

  • I dunno if I NEED the concept of a god. I do know that the concept of a god is u

    I dunno if I NEED the concept of a god. I do know that the concept of a god is useful to me – in a practical sense. And I know why that is so. But given that I know I am not exactly normal, or average, I don’t expect other people to either deny the utility of such a thing, or at least, to deny it to others. Nor do I expect that some portion of the population finds the concept of a god more than useful, but necessary. I only know that there is a difference between psychological utility to the individual, and the value of reinforcement in such shared utility between individuals, versus the projection of that utility as existential and useful between individuals who do not share that utility. And that all comforting fictions and fictionalisms that are merely useful devices are not sufficient, useful, or necessary for the organization of and resolution of differences between, individuals who neither need, nor can, make use of or even entertain those fictions and fictionalisms. We do not need systems of weights and measures, whether of physical things, verbal things, imaginary things, or emotional things because we agree on the sense, perception, value, and promise of those things. We need them because we not only don’t agree, but because we don’t equally sense, perceive, value, and predict the utility of such things in matters of cooperation, exchange, and conflict. As such, no individual’s perception and valuation hold meaning except as criteria for his or her choice of voluntary cooperation and exchange. Despite that such vanity, held by each individual, that his or her perception and valuation hold meaning, and that such meaning should and could be projected upon others with any degree of utility or reliability – instead of antagonism. And if there is a divine somewhere of some nature, then surely that vanity would be a sin of arrogance, pride, and ignorance.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-24 19:19:14 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1838659477521993728

  • I dunno if I NEED the concept of a god. I do know that the concept of a god is u

    I dunno if I NEED the concept of a god. I do know that the concept of a god is useful to me – in a practical sense. And I know why that is so. But given that I know I am not exactly normal, or average, I don’t expect other people either deny the utility of such a thing, at least, deny it to others. Nor do I expect that some portion of the population finds the concept of a god more than useful, but necessary. I only know that there is a difference between psychological utility to the individual, and the value of reinforcement in such shared utility between individuals, versus the projection of that utility as existential and useful between individuals who do not share that utility. And that all comforting fictions and fictionalisms that are merely useful devices are not sufficient, useful, or necessary for the organization of and resolution of differences between, individuals who neither need, nor can, make use of or even entertain those fictions and fictionalisms. We do not need systems of weights and measures, whether of physical things, verbal things, imaginary things, or emotional things because we agree on the sense, perception, value, and promise of those things. We need them because we not only don’t agree, but because we don’t sense, percieve, value, and predict the utility of such things in matters of cooperation, exchange, and conflict. As such no individual’s perception and valuation hold meaning except as criteria for voluntary cooperation and exchange. Despite this vanity by each individual that his or her perception and valuation hold meaning, that such meaning should and could be projected upon others with any degree of utility or reliability. And if there is a divine somewhere of some nature, then surely that vanity would be a sin of arrogance, pride, and ignorance.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-24 19:19:14 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1838653922984235009

  • RT @AncestralVril: Banning mosques is not enough. Islam must be deleted entirely

    RT @AncestralVril: Banning mosques is not enough.

    Islam must be deleted entirely from the Western world.

    It’s impossible to compromise wi…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-14 11:56:50 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834924263792365951

  • RT @LukeWeinhagen: @AshaLogos Faith Signaling Faith signaling isn’t real faith a

    RT @LukeWeinhagen: @AshaLogos Faith Signaling

    Faith signaling isn’t real faith any more than any other signaling is the real behavior it’…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-14 01:25:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834765384676766110

  • @jfmaquine I might frame your thesis a bit more generally, but it’s correct. Alt

    @jfmaquine
    I might frame your thesis a bit more generally, but it’s correct. Although I would like to answer the core question of just why anyone pays attention at all to german philosophy, and instead, why not pay attention to what germans actually do, and discover why they do it – because codifying the latter, just as the anglos codified theirs in the american constitution (albeit insufficiently) would be a net asset for mankind. Germans and Japanese, despite their differences in culture, do both prioritize the commons and produce high trust commons of lower conflict than other states, and do so without lying (as much) about it.

    Because I’m a product of Hayek and Popper myself, I especially liked this paragraph:

    –“Note: Popper explained that since Scholasticism, the University has adopted Essentialism and explained why ”the development of thought has remained in an arrested state of empty verbiage”.
    He also explained that there is a hidden truth in the foundation of the university that both methods of reading reality must cohabit but this [leads] to a constant conflict [within the university] that needs to be resolved. [So] He advocated that science [empiricism, neutrality, commensurability, testifiability] take over the university with the nominalist method.
    The opposite of his wish happened, and the humanities have taken over the university, [using] the essentialist method to read reality.
    This is the non-spoken part of the causes of the Student revolution in the 1960s and the rise of Post-modernism.
    he peace was broken much sooner if we read Julien Benda’s ”The Treason of the intellectuals” which he put around 1870, at least.
    The treason is the end of impartiality that was required to keep the peace in the university and among intellectuals.”–

    But reading that bit reminds me of a topic conversation I share with my friend Rudyard Lynch @whatifalthist fairly regularly. And that is that most of us attempt to explain history from the point of view of some observer with some desire born of the observations and judgement’s he’s made of the world.
    From my point of view, (science, economics, law, government, group strategy) I take the position of aristocracy – ultimate responsibility for outcomes over time – while Rudyard that of the clerisy – responsibility for the experience of the people in time. These are both historical and necessary points of view, the study of any conflict between, explains to us more about human nature and condition than either does alone.

    So a third position is that of the observer the people who write vs the people who work, the people who manage them, and the people who rule – and the natural conflict between the sexes and classes given the vast differences in instinct and intuition between the sexes and the more vast differences in ability between the classes. And I think that is the position you’re communicating from. And that’s because in the debate between the idealists (plato) and realists (aristotle) philosophy is more accessible and satisfying than empiricism science economics and law.

    As such comparative POV within a civilization is more useful than any singular POV within a civilization. Just as popper was only partly right with epistemology: darwinian falsification is in fact half of the epistemoc process, and yes, all logic is falsificationary not justificationary – we only know survival. As such the only solution to epistemology is the satisfaction of both empiricism (falsification) and construction (falsification) – a catastrophe of philosophical failure in the 19th to early 20th as babbage failed to systematize his thoughts, computation (operationalism) failed to displace mathematics (verbalism), followed by the failure of the intuitionists, operationalists, and operationsists left open the door for pseudoscience of cantor(infinities), bohr (just calculate), and even einstein (spacetime), which spread to all fields. And was only incrementally rescued by Turing and the computational revolution, Watson-Crick, the Cognitive Scientists, and the present demonstrations of the AI community at the same time as the admission of seventy years of failure by the Physicists. We are just less aware of the similar failures of pseudoscience in law (Rez, Kelsen, Dworkin, Rawls) for the same reasons. (Which is the pseudoscience I work to overcome).

    –“Overall, an understanding of the ancients – their philosophy, their quarrel, and the problems they tried to solve – is of the utmost importance.”–

    Well, I would say that comparative civilization better answers that question, because starting with the premise that the conflict is a problem rather than an equilibrium that causes continuous discovery and innovation might be a mistake. Instead we might think of everyone in each civilization struggling to perform some sort of evolutionary computation of ‘better than this’ given the physical, social, institutional, economic, and cognitive resources available to them. This POV leads us to view our history as discovery within premises for which we can only approach an optimum instead of a battle between truth and error.

    And secondly, comparative civ helps us discover the limits within which we are all struggling:
    There are only three choices of human interaction: cooperation(Trade), Parasitism(conflict), Avoidance(boycott).
    There are only three tools of human influence: Cooperation(Trade/Boycott), Force(Defense/Offense), Seduction (Inclusion/Exclusion).
    There are only three primary institutions of coercion: Law (Trade), State (Force), Faith(seduction).
    The order of the development of those institutions produces a path dependency where the first is strongest, the second less so and the third is weak or fails.
    The First institution determines the velocity of innovation and adaptation of your population: Law (Fast), State (Slow), Faith (Slowest).
    And worse, every civilization, given it’s territory, resources, competitors, demographics, and relationship between warriors and peasants, develops an unconscious set of metaphysical presumptions that are internally consistent even if not externally correspondent – so that they can cooperate on large scales with in a civilization.
    This set of premises if sufficiently survival evolves into a group evolutionary strategy that the group is unconscious of. Cultures, religions, states, traditions, and values are produced incrementally on top of those presumptions, further rigidifying them.

    Ergo, all people work within a framework they are unconscious of. And within institutions and habits and traditions populated by those with incentives to persist those institutions, habits ,and traditions, who resist all possible change at all possible times, causing incremental calcification until some crisis forces a change despite all the established interests of those people.

    So, just as christianity destroyed the western ancient world, and islam destroyed the ancient civilizations (seven of them), the new wave of ‘religions’ is attempting once again to destroy the present world – and succeeding wholeheartedly might I add.

    So my question is, again, why the interst in Kant and Hegel? Or for goodness sake Heidegger? What is the difference between the open debate and discourse of the anglo empirical and the closed internal piety of the german phenomenological?

    I mean, I’m not suggesting we burn their books, but other than studying philosophy and theology as largely a history of failures by middle and lower classes, then what is the point of it at all?

    The uncomfortable conclusion of a study of history is that the progressives were not all wrong, and that the fundamental problem for mankind is the asymmetry of biological vs cognitive, scientific and technological evolution, and the tendency to regress toward the mean during periods of prosperity – a process which leads to collapse.

    Looking forward to more of your prose. 😉

    CD

    Reply addressees: @jfmaquine @SRCHicks


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-10 16:36:13 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833545020843909125

  • Christianity is naturally leftist – desiring the authority of church and scriptu

    Christianity is naturally leftist – desiring the authority of church and scripture while maintaining western individual responsibility.


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-05 17:33:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1831747499998245049

    Reply addressees: @ConceptualJames

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1831709306280198153

  • PRESENTER WANTED: Propaganda->Advertising Who do we know that can give a present

    PRESENTER WANTED: Propaganda->Advertising
    Who do we know that can give a presentation that can cover the evolution of propaganda from Abrahamic religions, to marxist sequence, to the soviets, to its application in postwar american advertising and it’s subsequent penetration to academy and dominance in american political leftism?

    We need this for our fall conference if we can find someone.

    Thanks


    Source date (UTC): 2024-09-01 16:10:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1830276953263271936

  • RT @whatifalthist: You guys know if you had enough money, a wife, kids, friends

    RT @whatifalthist: You guys know if you had enough money, a wife, kids, friends and a church you liked that 90% of you would immediately be…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-08-30 18:18:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829584572503212215

  • RT @curtdoolittle: @Hist__ @whatifalthist MINDFULNESS IS …. The goal of counseli

    RT @curtdoolittle: @Hist__ @whatifalthist MINDFULNESS IS ….
    The goal of counseling, therapy, religion, and ritual is broadly aimed at produ…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-08-30 11:14:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829477738991780098

  • RT @TabbyTeamster: Keeping this for whenever I have to speak seriously to more c

    RT @TabbyTeamster: Keeping this for whenever I have to speak seriously to more church oriented men who use these continental-philosophical…


    Source date (UTC): 2024-08-28 18:06:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1828856624586293715