Nov 12, 2016 12:58am CIRCUMPOLAR CIVILIZATION ‘CHRISTENDOM’ 1) anglo ,empirical, common law, christian, utopian trust, 2) continental, rational, napoleonic, protestant, high trust 3) mediterranean, traditional, napoleonic, catholic low trust 4) eastern, traditional, moral, catholic, low trust 5) russian, tradictional, soviet law, orthodox, lowest trust
Theme: Religion
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Myth, Ritual and Maturity, vs Supernatural, Ritual, and Infantilization
WHY IS RELIGION – MEANING MYTH AND RITUAL – NECESSARY? —“Why is mythology and ritual necessary?”—Doug Decidability, opportunity costs and transaction costs. —“??????”—Doug We coordinate our actions a little bit by clear deliberate choices. But mostly we cooperate by many thousands of tie-breakers that we default to loose theories of the ‘good’: narratives. In other words, religions provide means by which, in those many thousands of choices, where no choice is preferable to us, to prefer the choice that contributes to the advancement of the commons. Otherwise like Bouridan’s Ass we must find some method of choosing. This insight is profoundly important. Think of religions as a wishing well into which we toss the spare change of choice. But these choices reflect a group evolutionary strategy. And these strategies are not equal. THE MANY SMALL DEFEAT THE FEW GRAND. THE PURPOSE OF MYTH AND RITUAL IS THE COORDINATION OF DECIDABILITY THE PURPOSE OF RELIGION IS INFANTILIZATION MYTH, RITUAL, NATURAL LAW: MATURATION –VS– RELIGION, RITUAL, SUPERNATURAL LAW: INFANTILIZATION
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Myth, Ritual and Maturity, vs Supernatural, Ritual, and Infantilization
WHY IS RELIGION – MEANING MYTH AND RITUAL – NECESSARY? —“Why is mythology and ritual necessary?”—Doug Decidability, opportunity costs and transaction costs. —“??????”—Doug We coordinate our actions a little bit by clear deliberate choices. But mostly we cooperate by many thousands of tie-breakers that we default to loose theories of the ‘good’: narratives. In other words, religions provide means by which, in those many thousands of choices, where no choice is preferable to us, to prefer the choice that contributes to the advancement of the commons. Otherwise like Bouridan’s Ass we must find some method of choosing. This insight is profoundly important. Think of religions as a wishing well into which we toss the spare change of choice. But these choices reflect a group evolutionary strategy. And these strategies are not equal. THE MANY SMALL DEFEAT THE FEW GRAND. THE PURPOSE OF MYTH AND RITUAL IS THE COORDINATION OF DECIDABILITY THE PURPOSE OF RELIGION IS INFANTILIZATION MYTH, RITUAL, NATURAL LAW: MATURATION –VS– RELIGION, RITUAL, SUPERNATURAL LAW: INFANTILIZATION
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Religion may be necessary, but not lies.
Nov 15, 2016 10:40am Religion is a NECESSARY institution for the provision of decidability by narrative, which is the loosest theoretical structure we currently know how to construct. The question is whether we claim religious narratives are true(history), are myths(parables), or are supernatural(falsehoods). History and Myths are enough without resorting to lies.
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Religion may be necessary, but not lies.
Nov 15, 2016 10:40am Religion is a NECESSARY institution for the provision of decidability by narrative, which is the loosest theoretical structure we currently know how to construct. The question is whether we claim religious narratives are true(history), are myths(parables), or are supernatural(falsehoods). History and Myths are enough without resorting to lies.
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Religion Has No Need Of Lies
There is a difference between a cost of entry into a religion and the content of the falsehoods in the religion. Many cults do not ask us to pay physical costs, but to deny reality as the cost of entry. In fact, is that not the entire premise of the monotheistic religions? The price of entry is faith in falsehood? A cost of non-correspondence with reality? The signal of trustworthiness to others is the likewise denial? The shared lie? There exist amazing cults (stoicism), questionable cults (Buddhism), ignorance creating cults (Christianity and Islam), immorality creating cults (Judaism), and even worse cults that teach even worse lies. There is no need for lies. History, myth, man, and nature are beauty enough and wonder enough without the need for lies.
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Religion Has No Need Of Lies
There is a difference between a cost of entry into a religion and the content of the falsehoods in the religion. Many cults do not ask us to pay physical costs, but to deny reality as the cost of entry. In fact, is that not the entire premise of the monotheistic religions? The price of entry is faith in falsehood? A cost of non-correspondence with reality? The signal of trustworthiness to others is the likewise denial? The shared lie? There exist amazing cults (stoicism), questionable cults (Buddhism), ignorance creating cults (Christianity and Islam), immorality creating cults (Judaism), and even worse cults that teach even worse lies. There is no need for lies. History, myth, man, and nature are beauty enough and wonder enough without the need for lies.
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BTW, is there anyone christian left in Moscow or is everyone muslim now?
BTW, is there anyone christian left in Moscow or is everyone muslim now?
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Aphorisms on Religion
(November 17, 2016) No reason not to outlaw anything false: religion, pseudo-rationalism, pseudoscience. There’s no value in fraudulent products, services OR information. Assuming you teach Christianity as myth rather than history, by and large it’s compatible with natural law. But not judaism. And not Islam. We cannot control what nonsense you believe but we certainly can limit what nonsense you distribute. There is a great difference between establishing a religion and banning a religion. There is no reason we do not ban religions – frequently. Sorry but if your religion isn’t compatible with natural law, then it’s not compatible with rule of law, and not compatible with the west.
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Aphorisms on Religion
(November 17, 2016) No reason not to outlaw anything false: religion, pseudo-rationalism, pseudoscience. There’s no value in fraudulent products, services OR information. Assuming you teach Christianity as myth rather than history, by and large it’s compatible with natural law. But not judaism. And not Islam. We cannot control what nonsense you believe but we certainly can limit what nonsense you distribute. There is a great difference between establishing a religion and banning a religion. There is no reason we do not ban religions – frequently. Sorry but if your religion isn’t compatible with natural law, then it’s not compatible with rule of law, and not compatible with the west.