—“How do we sacralize (keep static) our value system, outside of religion? Christianity was the container, and will be again. We can modify which values are contained in it, but we need : 1. A value system 2. A way to transmit it to all classes (myth, feasts, spectacles) 3. A way to keep the value system static (canonized)(burning heretics at the stake) Its obvious to me that this requires a monopoly institution. The only market for choosing between the monopolies is war. There can be no market for a sacralized value system. We allowed that and we got modernism.”—Bill Anderson SINCE WHEN IS STASIS A GOOD THING? it may be obvious to you but looking around the world (a) our value system isn’t from the church its from the having a commercial middle class, education, and the law, (b) man has discovered just about every imaginable way of training us into mindfulness. (c) we train with fairy tales, historical novels, bibliographies, histories, and the sciences. We have been through many waves of conquest by truth (reason) using deflationary grammars and conquest by lies (religion) using inflationary and conflationary grammars. Deflationary we innovate and prosper, conflationary we stagnate and suffer. So it doesn’t really matter what you intuit, because you are infected by the disease so to speak. Falsify those ideas by searching the world and you will find through the comparison of civilizations (japan being my favorite example in belonging, and switzerland being my favorite example in civic order). Your ideas cannot survive falsification. They can’t. Assuming one has intellectual honesty. Myth(commensurability on strategy), Ritual(mindfulness), Feast(calm belonging), Festival(excited belonging) and Markets (daily cooperation) work. They do. There is no evidence people need lies, they need commensurability so that they can cooperate with the least fear and doubt and insecurty, and the greatest optimism and trust. Conversely, primitive peoples were forced to compete with much more advanced peoples but they lacked commensurability due to tribalism, and lacked commerce due to primitivism. It’s not complicated. The problem is STATIC MEANS DEAD. And so it’s not that we must be static via positiva, but that we must be static VIA NEGATIVA (law). The very quest for the static as commensurability via positiva vs the dynamic as commensurability via negativa is the reason abrahamism was so stagnating under judaism, stagnating under christianity, and stagnating destructive and devolutinary under islam. Be careful what you value, for what you value may be simply ‘taking it easy’ such that you stagnate and devolve. THE RED QUEEN NEVER STOPS. Abrahamic religions, or any static religion, lets the red queen win.
Theme: Religion
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THE VIRTUE OF HISTORY POLY-HEROISM AS CIVIC RELIGION (important ideas) The probl
THE VIRTUE OF HISTORY POLY-HEROISM AS CIVIC RELIGION
(important ideas)
The problem in producing a positive religion is providing a sufficient portfolio of virtues that people can select from and use to respond to differing circumstances.
It’s the same with political orders. everyone wants to mandate an optimum when the romans know a long time ago that you give shit away when you’re prosperous, you run a market order most of the time, and you run a fascist generalship in times of war, with the only constant being rule of law (reciprocity) as the point of equilibrium between the two extremes.
Hence my argument for real or semi-real historical figures, and enough of them so that we can call upon their example no matter what the conditions.
The only reason not to is authoritarianism and as far as I know all religious people are closet authoritarians, whether they want to lead or follow, just as they care closet regressives by seeking static rules regardless of whether they do so for discounts on mental labor, or discounts on the work to compromise with those having different ends, or they want to rally people to their chosen reproductive strategy despite the fact it’s not in the interest of others to do so.
Economic analysis explains everything and no matter what you do religious people lose. In fact, it’s pretty easy to argue that organized religion is the worse thing to happen to humanity in history.
I mean, we already now that the source of all monotheistic religions was the failure of the indo-iranians to compete with the europeans, and therefore they spread west to escape them, but took the technology with them while inverting the aryan religion from one of defeating nature to one submissive to it.
it’s very hard to tell people that their desire for predictability is suicidal and that it’s only trustworthiness despite unpredictability that produces goods. It’s very hard to tell people who are dedicated to fictionalisms in which they find comforts that they are destructive to humanity and the most regressive people living. But it’s simply a fact.
I didn’t expect to end up here but then I have more intellectual honesty and moral courage than most people, and am more willing to be wrong than most people for reasons that were nothing to do with my own choice.
Truth is truth. It is very hard to face it.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 13:43:00 UTC
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Yes, well the secret of religious devotion especially for women is that the trut
Yes, well the secret of religious devotion especially for women is that the truth is less important than belonging (conformity). It is almost impossible to find a woman that is not a victim of this particular cognitive drive. It supercedes her reason at nearly all times, and is the cause of victim mentality in women who are simply unsafe and fall in to victim spirals seeing rapists everywhere.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 11:00:00 UTC
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Howard Van Der Klauw yes well the secret of religious devotion especially for wo
Howard Van Der Klauw yes well the secret of religious devotion especially for women is that the truth is less important than belonging (conformity).
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 10:59:00 UTC
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REQUIREMENTS OF A RELIGION – TRANSFER NOT STASIS —“How do we sacralize (keep s
REQUIREMENTS OF A RELIGION – TRANSFER NOT STASIS
—“How do we sacralize (keep static) our value system, outside of religion? Christianity was the container, and will be again. We can modify which values are contained in it, but we need :
1. A value system
2. A way to transmit it to all classes (myth, feasts, spectacles)
3. A way to keep the value system static (canonized)(burning heretics at the stake)
Its obvious to me that this requires a monopoly institution. The only market for choosing between the monopolies is war. There can be no market for a sacralized value system. We allowed that and we got modernism.”—Bill Anderson
SINCE WHEN IS STASIS A GOOD THING?
it may be obvious to you but looking around the world (a) our value system isn’t from the church its from the having a commercial middle class, education, and the law, (b) man has discovered just about every imaginable way of training us into mindfulness. (c) we train with fairy tales, historical novels, bibliographies, histories, and the sciences.
We have been through many waves of conquest by truth (reason) using deflationary grammars and conquest by lies (religion) using inflationary and conflationary grammars.
Deflationary we innovate and prosper, conflationary we stagnate and suffer.
So it doesn’t really matter what you intuit, because you are infected by the disease so to speak. Falsify those ideas by searching the world and you will find through the comparison of civilizations (japan being my favorite example in belonging, and switzerland being my favorite example in civic order).
Your ideas cannot survive falsification. They can’t. Assuming one has intellectual honesty.
Myth(commensurability on strategy), Ritual(mindfulness), Feast(calm belonging), Festival(excited belonging) and Markets (daily cooperation) work. They do. There is no evidence people need lies, they need commensurability so that they can cooperate with the least fear and doubt and insecurty, and the greatest optimism and trust.
Conversely, primitive peoples were forced to compete with much more advanced peoples but they lacked commensurability due to tribalism, and lacked commerce due to primitivism. It’s not complicated. The problem is STATIC MEANS DEAD. And so it’s not that we must be static via positiva, but that we must be static VIA NEGATIVA (law).
The very quest for the static as commensurability via positiva vs the dynamic as commensurability via negativa is the reason abrahamism was so stagnating under judaism, stagnating under christianity, and stagnating destructive and devolutinary under islam.
Be careful what you value, for what you value may be simply ‘taking it easy’ such that you stagnate and devolve.
THE RED QUEEN NEVER STOPS.
Abrahamic religions, or any static religion, lets the red queen win.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 10:39:00 UTC
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SELLING DEGREES VS INDULGENCES —“Academia is the modern priesthood.”— Bill A
SELLING DEGREES VS INDULGENCES
—“Academia is the modern priesthood.”— Bill Anderson
It should be. The academy evolved out of the church instead out of the greek and roman upper middle class and aristocracy.
And who filled the void of the church when the church failed to adapt to modernity? The church-in-waiting.
However, the church and it’s selling of Indulgences had NOTHING on the academy selling degrees that are meaningless.
I mean, the academy is the greatest scam since monotheistic religion.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 10:27:00 UTC
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BRINGING PSYCHOLOGY TO ITS FINAL CONCLUSION —“Curt Doolittle I noticed MBTI ha
BRINGING PSYCHOLOGY TO ITS FINAL CONCLUSION
—“Curt Doolittle I noticed MBTI has turned into a sort of religion for a-lot of people. Unfortunate how this always happens.”—Candice Mary
As I’ve said elsewhere sixteen (4×4) with archetypal names, is about as complex as the average person can manage to ‘calculate’ with.
I would much rather have people use MBTI and understand that we have different categories, relations and values, than to attempt to use the freudian model to dominate them into a uniform ideal, by casting everything as a ‘disease’ that doesn’t conform to that ideal. Freudianism is freaking evil.
MBTI and Jung are crayons and fairy tales yes, but like fairy tales they contain a lot more than a grain of truth. Among my clan of people so to speak, big 5/6 factors and underlying dimensions we get greater precision but with the same empathy at the cost of losing the utility of archetypes.
If you understand my work you lose empathy completely, and see people as clockworks, lacking nearly all agency.
Then you are faced with having to just love people for the joy of it, and not blame them for their failings.
Which is the optimum understanding that the very wisest of us (particularly catholics) eventually arrive at, and is one of the reasons the very top scholars in the world cease their irreligiosity while the public intellectuals preserve atheism.
Hence my multi-year quest to understand how to produce a religion that free of abrahamic sophism, deceit, and immoralism, but achieves what we all desire from religion: the peace of mind and frequent elation that comes from surrender to running with the pack.
It is wolves and dogs running in packs in the wild we should study – because it is precisely that emotion of safety in belonging and the sharing of perception and understanding by nothing but body language that we verbal and rational creatures long for.
Domesticated wolves are our friends for this reason. Just as the wolfman is a subconscious archetype: we are the apes who hunt like wolves. We simply had the advantage of two feet and opposable thumbs, and extraordinary heat dissipation so we could pass those wolves and domesticate ourselves.
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 10:16:00 UTC
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WHAT MAKES CHRISTIANITY JEWISH, NOT EUROPEAN? (very important ideas) What makes
WHAT MAKES CHRISTIANITY JEWISH, NOT EUROPEAN?
(very important ideas)
What makes Christianity Jewish is the method of presentation (fictional history), the adaptation rather than homeric repetition (justification), the method of argument: pilpul(sophism), the demand for exclusivity (monotheism), the demand for submission(slave morality), the demand for obedience (law vs wisdom) rather than respect and tolerance, the demand for expansion (domination), divisiveness and demonization (poly-ethicalism – although christian is less so than judaism or islam), the primacy of priests and conformity(positive) rather than law and conflict resolution (negative), the maladaptivity (devolution) rather than adaptivity (markets), the genetics (dysgenic rather than eugenic), and the spreading of ‘sources of ignorance’ rather than knowledge and innovation. The fact that it has been called an opiate of masses is simply a medical truism, since that’s precisely what it does (literally).
The fact that people spoke and wrote in greek, in greek-conquered lands, does not make them greek. What makes on the member of a group evolutionary strategy is their method of cooperation toward a given end. In the case of western vs semitic, it’s Truth, Correspondence, Heroism, Agency, Innovation, and Rule of Empirical Law, vs Lying, Non-Correspondence, Slavery, the absence of Agency, Stagnation and the Rule by Fictional Law.
The historical problem facing aristocratic and masculine western man in curing himself of the underclass and effeminate infection of abrahamic sophism, is that empirical law, commerce, and science is simply practiced while literature is debated. Once you understand this, the parallel between judaism and marxism, and christianity and postmodernism is obvious: jewish pseudoscience and law that is non-correspondent, and christian literature and rationalism that is allegorical and non correspondent. They attempt to achieve by overloading reason, with framing obscurantism and suggestion, an appeal to intuition of the interpersonal experience, rather than informing us as to the limits of personal perception and experience and the use of measurements both physical and logical to extend it.
The Abrahamisms are Sophisms by analogy, not Measurements by description. Western man measures the empirical to understand and defeat reality. Semitic man fictionalizes to ignore, and circumvent reality.
Abrahamic fictionalism is the very opposite of Western Description. They tell fictions. We report on events.
(Thus endeth the lesson)
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
Kiev, Ukraine
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-08 09:51:00 UTC
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You know, you don’t know this, but I do: that the principle reason people hide b
You know, you don’t know this, but I do: that the principle reason people hide behind authoritarian religions is so that they don’t have to negotiate with other people on existential terms. In other words, it’s a form of isolation despite public appearances.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-07 21:07:51 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/993598309523771393
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RELIGIOSITY AS A MASK You know, you don’t know this, but I do: that the principl
RELIGIOSITY AS A MASK
You know, you don’t know this, but I do: that the principle reason people hide behind authoritarian religions is so that they don’t have to negotiate with other people on existential terms. In other words, it’s a form of isolation despite public appearances.
Source date (UTC): 2018-05-07 17:07:00 UTC