Theme: Reciprocity

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by John Mark

A picture/example/illustration of reciprocity, the silver rule (or violation of it)…

CEO of a large corporation in America says “I want more profit. One very easy path to that is more warm bodies entering the USA – more people to buy our company’s product/service, and drives down price of labor too! Huge win! (For me and company shareholders.) I care not who they are, just bring in more people!!! If they are more badly behaved/criminal, if they destroy social cohesion, if they drive working class whites out of their neighborhoods, if they demonize white people…I care not. I am insulated from these problems by my wealth (gated community, private jet, homes around the world). So I will donate to politicians (buy them) who will keep the borders open.”

This CEO is doing unto others what he would *not* have done to himself. He is stealing property (Curt’s accurate expanded definition of property, which includes common property, all those things white working/middle class whites value and have invested in for generations in America). He is violating reciprocity, natural law.

;)Stephen Murrayso thats what Curt means by commons.Nov 1, 2018, 4:33 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://propertarianism.com/2017/03/23/definition-commons-with-links-to-the-core/Nov 1, 2018, 4:35 PMCurt Doolittlehttps://propertarianism.com/2013/01/15/the-complete-definition-of-property-excerpt-from-propertarianism/Nov 1, 2018, 4:35 PMNick DahlheimThe only property I want that CEO to own is a pike and a pyreNov 1, 2018, 4:42 PMLuke WeinhagenTwo fold violation –

1. Doing unto others (violating the silver rule)

2. Insulating (externalizing risks/costs)

He could be just doing 1 while exposing himself to the consequences and it would still be a violation of reciprocity.

By doing 2 as well he undermines natural law’s inherent capacity for corrections against violations (personal wealth gets destroyed, business fails, etc… natural consequences eliminating problem 1).Nov 1, 2018, 4:45 PMStephen Murrayneed I ask what the golden rule is?Nov 1, 2018, 4:53 PMCurt DoolittleI”m not gonna google that for you…. ;)Nov 1, 2018, 4:59 PMCurt Doolittle“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”Nov 1, 2018, 4:59 PMCurt Doolittle^the communist version.Nov 1, 2018, 5:00 PMStephen Murrayis that not the silver rule?Nov 1, 2018, 5:00 PMAndrew ClaytonThe golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

The silver rule: Give, and you can benefit. Take, and you will pay.Nov 1, 2018, 5:02 PMStephen MurraygreatNov 1, 2018, 5:03 PMSteve PenderIs it the pressure of quarterly earnings?Nov 1, 2018, 5:05 PMAndrew ClaytonCombined with a severed connection to social moresNov 1, 2018, 5:06 PMJennifer DeanIn a public company, for sure. I’ve seen a lot of that. They do things to generate short-term profit at the expense of longer-term or further reaching consequences.Nov 1, 2018, 5:07 PMYiannis KontinopoulosStephen Murray the silver rule is “Don’t do to them what they wouldn’t want to have done onto themselves”Nov 1, 2018, 5:07 PMJennifer DeanWally world is a treasure trove of examples of violation of reciprocity.Nov 1, 2018, 5:09 PMStephen ThomasAbolish the Government institution of “corporations”.

Solves a lot of parasitic behaviorNov 1, 2018, 5:38 PMCurt Doolittlewell, a corporation in the sense you mean it, is one that is granted limited liability by the insurer of last resort (the government).

A corporation in the sense that it is a contract for the production of commons is something else.

The qestion is, will corporations form without the insurer of last resort granting them limited liability? no I don’t think so. they didn’t at any useful scale.Nov 1, 2018, 5:52 PMCurt Doolittlethe problem isn’t the corporation its that you can’t sue them for impositon upon the commons.Nov 1, 2018, 5:53 PMStephen ThomasCorrect.

The idea of a corporation or incorporation is fine, wonderful even.Nov 1, 2018, 6:10 PMJohn MarkIf the law mandated the Golden Rule, it would produce Dysgenic Communism. If the law mandated the Silver Rule, it would produce Eugenic Propertarianism.Nov 1, 2018, 6:33 PMJohn MarkIn the current system, there is zero incentive for CEOs to give up profits to preserve societal (commons) wealth (of various forms). Each CEO (or any other corporate employee) knows that if he refuses to plunder the commons thus giving up profit opportunity, the board will replace him with someone who will plunder the commons for profit, and nothing will change. So, “it might as well be me that gets richer.”Nov 1, 2018, 6:42 PMJohn MarkGood distinction.Nov 1, 2018, 6:43 PMJohn MarkTook me a while to get that too when I first started following Curt.Nov 1, 2018, 6:45 PMAndrew StrachanI would love to know how these CEOs/shareholders/directors make their money because I’m all of the above and I pay tax through my nose! I live in a 3 bedroom house in the East of England and I drive a 30 year old car! I’m subject to the same tax laws as everyone else in this country! Maybe there’s some con that I’m not onto? But as far as I’m concerned the whole CEO, company director conspiracy theory is just that!, a conspiracy! 😏Nov 1, 2018, 8:24 PMMicah Pezdirtzbrings to mind the broken window fallacyNov 3, 2018, 5:51 PMNick DahlheimBigger CEOs up the food chain stuff their money in offshore tax havens while also flooding your country with Muslim shitholersNov 3, 2018, 6:09 PMAN EXAMPLE OF RECIPROCITY

by John Mark

A picture/example/illustration of reciprocity, the silver rule (or violation of it)…

CEO of a large corporation in America says “I want more profit. One very easy path to that is more warm bodies entering the USA – more people to buy our company’s product/service, and drives down price of labor too! Huge win! (For me and company shareholders.) I care not who they are, just bring in more people!!! If they are more badly behaved/criminal, if they destroy social cohesion, if they drive working class whites out of their neighborhoods, if they demonize white people…I care not. I am insulated from these problems by my wealth (gated community, private jet, homes around the world). So I will donate to politicians (buy them) who will keep the borders open.”

This CEO is doing unto others what he would *not* have done to himself. He is stealing property (Curt’s accurate expanded definition of property, which includes common property, all those things white working/middle class whites value and have invested in for generations in America). He is violating reciprocity, natural law.

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