Theme: Reciprocity

  • TERMINAL MORONITUDE —“FWIW: “There is no ‘wrong’. There is only what people wi

    TERMINAL MORONITUDE

    —“FWIW: “There is no ‘wrong’. There is only what people will retaliate against you for doing.” They retaliate against you for some reason. That reason is the imposition of costs upon that which they have born costs to obtain an interest. it’s that simple. Propertarianism isn’t excuses making for priors. It’s just empirical evidence of the accumulated history of mankind across all civilizations.”— CURTD

    —“Moral relativism is always a red flag.”—Moron

    Um, it’s MORAL ABSOLUTISM. You silly git. it’s EMPIRICAL moral absolutism.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-12 19:51:00 UTC

  • NO, UPB IS A MINOR RETREAD ON NAP. —“UPB isn’t synonymous with the NAP… Conf

    NO, UPB IS A MINOR RETREAD ON NAP.

    —“UPB isn’t synonymous with the NAP… Conflating UPB with the NAP suggests you’re not familiar with it? UPB is more like the extension of the scientific method to ethics more than anything else. I can’t see anything on the website about UPB – unless its refuted under a different name.”— Hamish

    Hamish:

    Comparing Jewish Libertarian Ethics vs European Libertarian Ethics.

    The test of any jewish-libertarian law is voluntarism.

    JEWISH LIBERTARIANISM (Libertinism)

    1. The first test of it’s failure is blackmail. It fails the test of blackmail.

    2. The second test of voluntarism is fully informed vs lying, the test is selling a lemon. if fails the selling of a lemon.

    3. The third test of voluntarism is baiting in to moral hazard, the test is usury. It fails the test of usury.

    4. The fourth test is of voluntarism is externality. The tests are prostitution, gambling, drug use, pornography….

    5. The fifth test of voluntarism is rent seeking….

    6. The sixth test is of voluntarism is undermining (propaganda, tradition, law, activism, reciprocity )….

    Jewish libertarianism (libertinism): voluntarism, plausible deniability, and denial of responsibility for externality. (“Can I get away with this?”) The ethics of the gypsy trader, ghetto, and pale.

    Jewish law and custom and habit is ‘it only takes two to make a deal” and “us vs them” and “undermining others is heroic”.

    EUROPEAN LIBERTARIANISM (Sovereignty)

    The test of european libertarianism is productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer free of imposition of cost by externality that would reduce the trust and risk of the people to engage in the production of goods, services, information whether private or common. it is applicable to all. that’s what rule of law means: applicable to all.

    European libertarianism (Sovereignty): reciprocity, full accounting of responsibility, for internality and externality. (“What can I be prosecuted for trying to get away with?”) The ethics of landholders who are militia and kin.

    European law and custom is we must limit our actions to internalization of costs, and as such ‘productive, fully informed, warrantied, transfer, free of imposition of costs by externality upon the interests of others.

    The purpose of law is to prevent low trust, low risk, retaliation cycles, and the feuds, and feuds accumulating in wars that result.

    The reason we developed the commons, mercantilism, the corporation, and large private corporations and capital markets and high trust and high economic velocity in the west, is because we practiced high trust ethics. The reason jews must live off a host, and muslims cannot build organizations larger than the family exept for their dogmatic religion, and as a consequence lived in poverty, is this difference in ethics.

    Europeans: Truth before face. Muslims: Face before truth. Judaism: neither truth nor face but simple utility.

    THE WEAPONIZATION OF THE FEMALE GROUP STRATEGY

    What you and every other libertarian (sucker) falls prey to is the semitic group strategy of baiting in to moral hazard using a half truth that baits your moral intuition into bypassing your critical reason (skepticism, distrust), with horrendous external consequences.

    This is the strategy of women. Women evolved to bait with promise of verbal attention, support, affection, care, or sex, without delivering on the sex, affection, or care. Women bait men into moral hazard. We call it manipulating but it is just their natural reproductive strategy at work. Women bait each other into moral hazard out of fear of ‘sticking out’ or ‘going against the grain’ thus generating pressure of ostracization.

    The semitic peoples evolved clannism, low trust, ghetto ethics, and baiting in to moral hazard using religion and intolerance as their group strategy. This is not successful against each other, but it is successful against more advanced (higher trust higher neoteny) people.

    The abrahamic religions and sophism of the old world and the abrahamic pseudosciences and sophisms of the modern world, all function by the same method of deceit: baiting a sucker into moral hazard, by offer of a discount. Western people are higher trust both genetically (low clannishness) and culturally (christian universalism), and institutionally (involuntary warranty of due diligence in products and services).

    All I have done is put into law the inability to use thse weapons against our people. Ive ended the ability to use half truths baiting into moral hazard, as a means of lying, in the commons.

    I finished the law for the age of information.

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    HAZARD

    “A tiger trap presents a hazard not only to the tiger, but to man.”

    1. In old English law. An unlawful game at dice, those who play at being called “hazardors.” Jacob.

    2. In modern law. Any game of chance or wagering. Cheek v. Com., 100 Ky. 1,87 S. W. 152; Graves v. Ford, 3 B. Mon. (Ky.) 113; Somers v. State, 6 Sneed (Tenn.) 488.

    3. In insurance law. The risk, danger, or probability that the event Insured against may happen, varying with the circumstances of the particular case. See State Ins. Co. v. Taylor, 14 Colo. 499, 24 Pac. 883, 20 Am. St. Rep. 281.

    4. Moral hazard. In fire insurance. The risk or danger of the destruction of the insured property by fire, as measured by the character and interest of the insured owner, his habits as a prudent and careful man or the reverse, his known integrity or his bad reputation, and the amount of loss he would suffer by the destruction of the property or the gain he would make by suffering it to burn and collecting the insurance. See Syndicate Ins. Co. v. Bohn. 65 Fed. 170. 12 0. O. A. 531, 27 L. R. A. 614.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-12 05:26:00 UTC

  • OUR TRIBES AND PACKS MUST WORK TOGETHER TOWARD A SHARED END: OUR SURVIVAL Look.

    OUR TRIBES AND PACKS MUST WORK TOGETHER TOWARD A SHARED END: OUR SURVIVAL

    Look. It’s just reciprocity. Don’t swing at me and mine. It’s not complicated. I don’t swing at others unless they swing first …. or say something so stupid it’s incomprehensible to me (Peterson on “Darwinian Truth” or Taleb on “IQ”… omfg., or basically whenever (((anyone))) in the libertine movement makes and excuse for high fraud.).

    I stated my vision again yesterday. And I’ll state it more clearly here:

    Men form packs, and packs unite in tribes. They form tribes to concentrate forces behind leaders.

    Yet, there are only three means of coercion:

    1 – force vs defense,

    2 – payment vs missed payment,

    3 – and inclusion vs ostracization.

    So we form groups of:

    1 – Force (authoritarian, force),

    2 – Operation (rule of law and commerce, science), and

    3 – Morality (religion, moralism).

    These constitute the three political archetype of aggression, exchange, and boycott. We also seem to have adopted the GSRRM of the left (women’s strategy) which is undermining, and technically speaking that is an extension of boycott, moralizing, religion.

    And because of these three cognitive frameworks, we need leaders of each personality group, cognitive fram, leadership, and strategy. Because together we form a division of knowledge perception comprehension and labor.

    But here is what it will boil down to. The religious provide human shields (defense), the libertarians provide the communication, propaganda and supply, and the fascists fight. And as far as I know this is the history of how people work albeit with significant overlap. Something of this nature will evolve.

    The only thing that matters is that:

    A) we will restore some sort of authority rather than the chaos of the parasites against our people.

    B) we will restore a constitution and an political and bureaucratic system of policy by which our people are no longer preyed upon by.

    C) we will restore our religion to the status of a conditional monopoly since all religions contain morals, ethics, laws which are incompatible and lead only to middle eastern chaos and despotism.

    This is how it will be. Because this is how it must be.

    Nothing else is possible.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-11 16:12:00 UTC

  • correct: morality = rules of cooperation across scales. = reciprocity within the

    correct: morality = rules of cooperation across scales. = reciprocity within the limits of proportionality = exit outside the limits of proportionality = conflict (war) outside the limits of reciprocity.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-11 14:08:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094961295584043009

    Reply addressees: @Alrenous

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094853112500604928


    IN REPLY TO:

    @Alrenous

    @curtdoolittle Morality is a silly metaphysical name for the fact that when someone attacks you, it is rational to neutralize them. Or when someone attacks your neighbour. Cooperation is always more rational – if the other party is themselves minimally rational.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094853112500604928

  • ?nd what would natural law consist of such that we all get along? Wat is require

    ?nd what would natural law consist of such that we all get along? Wat is required for us to get along, survive, and defeat the red queen of evolutionary competition?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-10 15:16:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094616028552876033

    Reply addressees: @PoisonAero @frattinicaue @JFGariepy

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094486199836667904


    IN REPLY TO:

    @PoisonAero

    @curtdoolittle @frattinicaue @JFGariepy So, we agree on what ideology is, more or less. Are you not trying to inspire political action?
    I don’t know what (1) is supposed to mean. Laws of nature are different from laws that we create. Laws of nature are beyond our control. Human laws are social constructs.

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094486199836667904

  • QUESTION. (SERIOUS) In the choice of the names: “The White Law” –or– “The Natu

    QUESTION. (SERIOUS)

    In the choice of the names:

    “The White Law”

    –or–

    “The Natural Law of European Peoples”

    –or–

    “Propertarianism”

    What are the costs and benefits of using each?

    Thoughtful rather than emotional answers please.

    Not what you think, but what will people think as we scale?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-10 14:22:00 UTC

  • NOBLESSE OBLIGE: THE DUTY OF THE ELITE: A RECIPROCITY “Noblesse oblige” is gener

    NOBLESSE OBLIGE: THE DUTY OF THE ELITE: A RECIPROCITY

    “Noblesse oblige” is generally used to imply that with wealth, power, and prestige come responsibilities.

    In ethical discussion, “Noblesse oblige” summarizes a moral economy wherein privilege (ability and achievement) must be balanced by duty towards those who lack such privilege ability and (achievement) or who cannot perform such duty.

    Finally, it has been used recently primarily to refer to public responsibilities of the rich, famous and powerful, notably to provide good examples of behaviour or to exceed minimal standards of decency.

    It has also been used to describe a person taking the blame for something in order to solve an issue or save someone else.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-10 13:35:00 UTC

  • “PROPERTARIANISM ISN’T AN IDEOLOGY. IT’S THE LOGIC OF RECIPROCITY (Propertariani

    “PROPERTARIANISM ISN’T AN IDEOLOGY. IT’S THE LOGIC OF RECIPROCITY (Propertarianism) AND THE SCIENCE OF TESTIMONY, COMBINED INTO A FORMAL RATIO-EMPIRICAL SYSTEM OF LAW (Decidability) FOR ETHICS, AND POLITICS.

    (repost)

    In other words, it’s the solution to social science.

    —“This is crucial for people that want to claim they don’t adhere to the “propertarian ideology”. It is not an ideology. It is a methodology and much like science it focuses on empirical evidence and the falsification of proposed truth claims. Most people that say they don’t agree with “propertarian ideology” have an ideology of their own that has been found to be based on lies via propertarian methods and that’s the real objection.”– Curtus Maximus

    You cannot defeat it. Sorry. You can however, state that despite your ideology being parasitic, predatory(immoral) and dishonest (fraudulent) that you cannot compete by meritocratic (market, evolutionary, eugenic) means, (meaning you’re inferior) and therefore must resort to parasitism, predation, and deceit (fraud), to survive by parasitism, predation, and fraud.

    It’s ok to do that. It’s just the truth. But you can’t make any kind of moral argument to support it.” – Curt Doolittle


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-10 13:11:00 UTC

  • MORALITY AMORALITY CONFLICT DESPOTISM AND THE SOCIOPATHIC MIND. MORALITY Some ba

    MORALITY AMORALITY CONFLICT DESPOTISM AND THE SOCIOPATHIC MIND.

    MORALITY

    Some basis of morality either exists or it does not. The science, law, and logic say that such a thing is called reciprocity, and reciprocity within the bounds of proportionality, and outside of the bounds of proportionality exit is necessary for any disadvantaged party. And that prohibition on or unbearable cost of exit is the origin of conflict, fighting, and war.

    AMORALITY

    If no basis for morality exists, then all that is required is power to force whatever order upon people that is useful. This is a license for any and all for corruption at every level. In other worse, one has rule of law and decidability, or one has rule by man and authority.

    CONFLICT

    The evolution of the law has been a battle between corruption (rule by man) and morality (rule of law). Even socialism (rule by man) and capitalism (rule of law), and globalism (rule by men) and nationalism (rule of law), and representative democracy (rule by men), and direct democracy (rule of law) are simply various examples of a long standing battle between the moral men who produce and the immoral men to live by parasitism.

    DESPOTISM

    The despot’s argument: empower elites further in order to garner favor (suck up to more successful people). Seize power and opportunity at every opportunity. Incrementally exercise pent up envy, anger, hatred, in order to gain pleasure and relief.

    SOCIOPATHY

    Sociopaths use a well documented set of tactics. They are natural liars. They will choose to lie even if the truth is just as advantageous. And once you know how lies are constructed, by using suggestion to force appeal to intuition, then you are no longer vulnerable to liars.

    The Sociopath’s Mind:

    “I must dominate, rule, punish, harm”

    “I have had no achievements”

    “I have no resources”

    “I am not likable or desirable”

    “I cannot build a following nor participate in one”

    “I cannot build an organization nor participate in one”

    “I can only use deceit and cunning because of this”

    “I will use deceit and cunning to self promote at all times”

    “I will shift locations, alliances, positions, tactics, claims, anything, and deny anything else, in order to exercise my sociopathy and related rewards”

    This person will always favor despotism because it is in his interests. Because there is no other means by which those without merit can exercise any agency over those others they envy, despise, and hate.

    THAT IS A CHAIN OF REASONING.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-10 12:44:00 UTC

  • Will you use god in an argument to try to undermine the natural law? If not. The

    Will you use god in an argument to try to undermine the natural law? If not. Then fine. This is about political speech. To end lying to our people.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-02-09 23:52:23 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094383539330666496

    Reply addressees: @MusaVaino @JFGariepy

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094370511331692544


    IN REPLY TO:

    @MusaVaino

    @JFGariepy @curtdoolittle Go deep into testimonials! Is it okey to say I believe in God or I love my God if you have propertarian nation?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1094370511331692544