Theme: Reciprocity

  • Is the State Moral?

    —“Dear mr Doolittle, How can the state, based on extortion and theft, be reciprocal? Real question. Not some goofy troll. Kind regards”— Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    [T]he state enforces order (cooperation) sufficient to deny competitors access to the territory, resources, people, their production, and networks of productivity and trade. And to deny internal inhibitors to the income necessary to pay for it. It does this by suppressing local rent seeking, corruption, and transaction costs, and centralizing these returns as ‘taxation’, where concentration of that income can be devoted to the production of commons and the multipliers produced by such commons. This creates opportunity for centralized corruption and alliance with the state against the people, but without exception, the returns on state vs non-state are obvious: non state’s cannot and do not exist. Even those claimed by ‘libertarians’ are just borderlands defended by states or empires, investing in settlement by permissiveness we translate as liberty.  Since settlers provide claims to territory which can be defended by arms, because in fact, they are investing in that territory, and reciprocity is the only international natural law that we can observe. We defend what we invest in. The only means of policing the state that we know of is rule of law through the courts of universal standing in matters both private and common.We have had this revoked by the state during the modern period, and we’ve been disintermediated from the courts as our means of defense. Democracy can never control anything other than voting an oligarchy into or out of office. Its insufficient for policy or defense because representatives are not required to state terms of contract before they enter office. So with democracy, disintermediation from the courts the only remaining method of insurance of sovereignty, liberty, freedom, and reciprocity is the militia and revolt. So the state must and can collect fees for defense, and the courts. It cannot compete unless it can collect fees for investment in the commons. Paying such people richly if small in number reduces their chances of corruption. But allowing them to buy votes through redistribution; and provides finance and internationals (large scale) with access to rents, rather than locals whose rents were suppressed (small scale), merely shifting the problem from many distributed rent seekers to fewer larger centralized rent seekers. This would appear to be a null trade, but it’s not, since suppression of local corruption and rent seeking provides the economic velocity that makes finance and internationals possible. So we must simply repeat the process of using the courts and the law to suppress new, larger organizations of rent seekers and corruption. And this process never ends. Man invents. So men will invent new means of rents and corruption, and other men will use the market for the suppression of parasitism that we call the courts and the law to stop them. In this sense the (positive ) market for goods, services, and information is the one we are most aware of. We are somewhat aware of the government (not state) as a market for commons. But of equal import is the (negative) market for the suppression of ir-reciprocity whether in the market for consumption (goods services information) or the market for multipliers (commons) we call government. Technically speaking the ‘state’ consists of the assets of the polity and the law its regulator, and the government a means of producing commons. Where commons includes the state and its holdings and the means of defense whether military, judicial or sheriff. Collectively the government and the state also provide the services of an insurer of last resort. The problem is maintaining its role as insurer, investor, and resolver of disputes, while not allowing the public to demand redistributions that limit their responsibility rather than insurance that retains it. I hope that is enough of a picture for you. No you can’t live statelessly except in a desert, tundra, or artic waste. That’s why no one has or does. I suppose that like many people who can consume information for entertainment and status you assume man is moral, rather than amoral, and choosing the moral and immoral as incentives provide. We can in fact read others. However history says that reading creates moral behavior not that moral behavior is intuitive. As anyone who has raised children finds rather obvious.

  • but you cannot push trust, reciprocity, truth, and duty, judge and jury, contrac

    … but you cannot push trust, reciprocity, truth, and duty, judge and jury, contract and rule of law, down into a population and produce the multiples of scale, unless you FILTER upward for both intelligence (complexity) and conscientiousness, and you reward the combination …


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 15:29:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179780632215506944

    Reply addressees: @clairlemon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179780107940110336


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @clairlemon … consuming the genetic, cultural, institutional, knowledge and aesthetic capital of five great civilizations and reducing them to ignorance, poverty and dysgenia.

    So yes you can make money if your conscientious at every point in the IQ curve …

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179780107940110336


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @clairlemon … consuming the genetic, cultural, institutional, knowledge and aesthetic capital of five great civilizations and reducing them to ignorance, poverty and dysgenia.

    So yes you can make money if your conscientious at every point in the IQ curve …

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179780107940110336

  • So whether you cast these people as amoral or immoral, intentional or unintentio

    So whether you cast these people as amoral or immoral, intentional or unintentional, or genetically or culturally different,the reality is that only westerners practice material Reciprocity and verbal reciprocity Truth,and because we do we produce high trust and large complex …


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 15:22:54 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179778862001065985

    Reply addressees: @clairlemon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179778505959194627


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @clairlemon It is quite profitable to engage in immorality among moral people, just as it is less so among immoral people. And the finance business is by and large unproductive. In other words a westerner would never engage in the tactic used by Georg Soros, which was extractive. He did.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179778505959194627


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    @curtdoolittle

    @clairlemon It is quite profitable to engage in immorality among moral people, just as it is less so among immoral people. And the finance business is by and large unproductive. In other words a westerner would never engage in the tactic used by Georg Soros, which was extractive. He did.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179778505959194627

  • people and it will explain why certain groups profit in certain industries: beca

    … people and it will explain why certain groups profit in certain industries: because they are immoral, and westerners are not.Morality requires reciprocity: productive, fully informed,warrantied, voluntary transfer, free of imposition of costs by externality against interests.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 15:20:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179778252061237248

    Reply addressees: @clairlemon

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179777781967806464


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    Unknown author

    @clairlemon Yet Taleb’s entire literature is devoted to lionizing scamming while ridiculing those who hold positions of privilege (influence) precisely because they are not in the scamming business. Now, this analysis will expose the primary difference between middle eastern and western…

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179777781967806464


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @clairlemon Yet Taleb’s entire literature is devoted to lionizing scamming while ridiculing those who hold positions of privilege (influence) precisely because they are not in the scamming business. Now, this analysis will expose the primary difference between middle eastern and western…

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179777781967806464

  • We are trying to restore TRUTH BEFORE FACE, Sovereignty Reciprocity, Jury, and M

    We are trying to restore TRUTH BEFORE FACE, Sovereignty Reciprocity, Jury, and Markets in all aspects of life. The entire western edifice and its success in ancient and modern worlds, depends on those few institutions. And you’re sitting here voluntarily engaging resistance.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 13:38:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179752626751250432

    Reply addressees: @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179751619858239489


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    Unknown author

    @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux Rome was destroyed from within as much as from without by the same means marxism feminism postmodernism are doing to the modern world:Undermining Truth before Face this time with pseudoscience, sophism, and denial, and last time with Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and invasion.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179751619858239489


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux Rome was destroyed from within as much as from without by the same means marxism feminism postmodernism are doing to the modern world:Undermining Truth before Face this time with pseudoscience, sophism, and denial, and last time with Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and invasion.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179751619858239489

  • So please man up and stop being a useful idiot. Truth before Face, Reciprocity,

    So please man up and stop being a useful idiot. Truth before Face, Reciprocity, Sovereignty, and Jury is the foundation of western civilization.

    Stop helping the enemy by virtue signaling.
    Pay the cost of maintaining Truth Before Face.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-03 12:15:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179731768448049157

    Reply addressees: @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179731505809104901


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux The purpose of the marxist program was to bait decivilization with false promise and pseudoscience. It didn’t work. But Women naturally use face-before-truth, and by selling it to women and undesirable men, political correctness is simply undermining Truth before Face.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179731505809104901


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @SufficientlyWh1 @StefanMolyneux The purpose of the marxist program was to bait decivilization with false promise and pseudoscience. It didn’t work. But Women naturally use face-before-truth, and by selling it to women and undesirable men, political correctness is simply undermining Truth before Face.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179731505809104901

  • Move the audience along and avoid the WN/Fascist/Racist argument by simply focus

    Move the audience along and avoid the WN/Fascist/Racist argument by simply focusing on truth and reciprocity and rule of law.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-02 21:52:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179514415999311878

    Reply addressees: @nl7719 @StefanMolyneux @philosophicart @MrsMMissy @JohnMarkSays @WorMartiN @alaindwight @ThruTheHayes @MartianHoplite

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179514020040249344


    IN REPLY TO:

    Unknown author

    @nl7719 @StefanMolyneux @philosophicart @MrsMMissy @JohnMarkSays @WorMartiN @alaindwight @ThruTheHayes @MartianHoplite So this provides Stefan with an opportunity not only for himself but to explain the differences to the audience – which is the function of a host. Proxy for the audience.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179514020040249344


    IN REPLY TO:

    @curtdoolittle

    @nl7719 @StefanMolyneux @philosophicart @MrsMMissy @JohnMarkSays @WorMartiN @alaindwight @ThruTheHayes @MartianHoplite So this provides Stefan with an opportunity not only for himself but to explain the differences to the audience – which is the function of a host. Proxy for the audience.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1179514020040249344

  • That is why we should have a conversation – so that you can move on. It’s the co

    That is why we should have a conversation – so that you can move on. It’s the conversation many have asked us to have. Start: What is the market demand for definition of morality categorized as property, sufficient to resolve disputes vs end in retaliation cycles? For Polities?


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-02 20:32:37 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179494418317021184

    Reply addressees: @StefanMolyneux @philosophicart @MrsMMissy

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179442489410895873


    IN REPLY TO:

    @StefanMolyneux

    @curtdoolittle @philosophicart @MrsMMissy Rothbard? As in Murray?

    Nonsense.

    How so?

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1179442489410895873

  • 1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have done

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.

    Do unto others as you would have done unto you

    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.

    Do not unto others as you would not have done unto you.

    3. Via Empathia : …….The Copper Rule

    Do not unto others as they would not have done unto them.

    3. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Sovereignty and Reciprocity.

    Limit your actions to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfers, of the demonstrated interest of others, free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others by externality.

    4. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,

    ………………………….. … The Jury, and

    ………………………….. … Markets in everything.

    5. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-02 17:27:00 UTC

  • THE GOLDEN RULE EXPLAINED by Luke Weinhagen Those of us living in high trust soc

    THE GOLDEN RULE EXPLAINED

    by Luke Weinhagen

    Those of us living in high trust societies recognize the importance of The Golden Rule. We understand its value and the benefits we derive from it. It is one of the first formal lessons in social interaction we teach our children.

    But when you stop there at the Golden Rule alone, we too easily take it for granted. What we seem to miss is that rather than the Golden Rule being the First Rule of a high trust society – it is the last.

    THE FOUNDATIONS

    And so we often take for granted the other foundational rules:

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.

    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.

    3. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Reciprocity.

    4. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,

    ………………………….. … The Jury, and

    ………………………….. … Markets in everything.

    5. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.

    These are Foundational rules – rules that form the foundations of interaction upon which we build the functions of our society – the closer you get to the Golden Rule the more trust you can support.

    But High Trust, absent vigilance, allows one to make the mistake of standing on that foundation seeing nothing but the immaculate Gold and stop looking – ignoring the layers below that must be there to support each ascending layer.

    But these other rules can not be ignored. They are active. Starting from the Iron Rule each rule supports the next, making each possible in turn.

    The next rule in sequence can not exist without the previous rule being applied and maintained.

    Today someone is out there applying the fifth rule so that you have access to the fourth.

    Today someone is out there applying the fourth rule so that you have access to the third.

    Today someone is out there applying the third rule so that you have access to the second.

    Today someone is out there applying the second rule so that you have access to the first.

    “BE THAT SOMEONE”

    Be willing and able to be that someone. All they way down. If you can not be that someone, be grateful that someone is there. If you can not be grateful, at least do not try to knock that someone down – Trust is valuable and we really want to keep the Golden Rule.

    These are the rules. They are not complicated, but they are demanding. They are not hard to understand, but they so often seem easy to forget.

    -Luke Weinhagen


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-02 15:41:00 UTC