Theme: Reciprocity

  • Q: How Can Violence Be Reciprocal (moral)?

    Oct 1, 2019, 11:38 AM

    —“How can violence be reciprocal?”—Sietze Bosman @fryskefilosoof

    1. Returning violence is and act of reciprocity.
    2. Forcing Restitution and if necessary punishment (disincentive for repetition), restores reciprocity.

    3. Preemptive violence insures against ir-reciprocity.

    COUNSEL: Always use a series of at least 3 to 5 when analyzing propositions. Using series – which is what I teach – disambiguates and prevents errors of conflation when using ideal types and fallacies of construction such as ‘principles’. Most sophistry in philosophy consists of using ideal rather than serialized (enumerated) definitions; using the verb to be rather than the means of existence; conflating points of view between the observer, actor, and acted upon; and failing to construct complete sentences in testimonial (promissory) grammar, using operational terms. You will find that this is one of the points of demarcation between theology, philosophy, moralizing, and testimony (what we call science): disambiguation and operationalization into complete promissory sentences will rapidly demonstrate that almost all philosophical questions are sophisms. Witticisms. Nonsense. Puzzles. Riddles. But nothing more.

  • The Golden Rule Explained

    Oct 2, 2019, 3:41 PM by Luke Weinhagen Those of us living in high trust societies recognize the importance of The Golden Rule. We understand its value and the benefits we derive from it. It is one of the first formal lessons in social interaction we teach our children. But when you stop there at the Golden Rule alone, we too easily take it for granted. What we seem to miss is that rather than the Golden Rule being the First Rule of a high trust society – it is the last. THE FOUNDATIONS And so we often take for granted the other foundational rules:

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.
    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.
    3. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Reciprocity.
    4. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,
      ………………………….. … The Jury, and
      ………………………….. … Markets in everything.
    5. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.

    These are Foundational rules – rules that form the foundations of interaction upon which we build the functions of our society – the closer you get to the Golden Rule the more trust you can support. But High Trust, absent vigilance, allows one to make the mistake of standing on that foundation seeing nothing but the immaculate Gold and stop looking – ignoring the layers below that must be there to support each ascending layer. But these other rules can not be ignored. They are active. Starting from the Iron Rule each rule supports the next, making each possible in turn. The next rule in sequence can not exist without the previous rule being applied and maintained. Today someone is out there applying the fifth rule so that you have access to the fourth. Today someone is out there applying the fourth rule so that you have access to the third. Today someone is out there applying the third rule so that you have access to the second. Today someone is out there applying the second rule so that you have access to the first. “BE THAT SOMEONE” Be willing and able to be that someone. All they way down. If you can not be that someone, be grateful that someone is there. If you can not be grateful, at least do not try to knock that someone down – Trust is valuable and we really want to keep the Golden Rule. These are the rules. They are not complicated, but they are demanding. They are not hard to understand, but they so often seem easy to forget. -Luke Weinhagen

  • The Golden Rule Explained

    Oct 2, 2019, 3:41 PM by Luke Weinhagen Those of us living in high trust societies recognize the importance of The Golden Rule. We understand its value and the benefits we derive from it. It is one of the first formal lessons in social interaction we teach our children. But when you stop there at the Golden Rule alone, we too easily take it for granted. What we seem to miss is that rather than the Golden Rule being the First Rule of a high trust society – it is the last. THE FOUNDATIONS And so we often take for granted the other foundational rules:

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.
    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.
    3. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Reciprocity.
    4. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,
      ………………………….. … The Jury, and
      ………………………….. … Markets in everything.
    5. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.

    These are Foundational rules – rules that form the foundations of interaction upon which we build the functions of our society – the closer you get to the Golden Rule the more trust you can support. But High Trust, absent vigilance, allows one to make the mistake of standing on that foundation seeing nothing but the immaculate Gold and stop looking – ignoring the layers below that must be there to support each ascending layer. But these other rules can not be ignored. They are active. Starting from the Iron Rule each rule supports the next, making each possible in turn. The next rule in sequence can not exist without the previous rule being applied and maintained. Today someone is out there applying the fifth rule so that you have access to the fourth. Today someone is out there applying the fourth rule so that you have access to the third. Today someone is out there applying the third rule so that you have access to the second. Today someone is out there applying the second rule so that you have access to the first. “BE THAT SOMEONE” Be willing and able to be that someone. All they way down. If you can not be that someone, be grateful that someone is there. If you can not be grateful, at least do not try to knock that someone down – Trust is valuable and we really want to keep the Golden Rule. These are the rules. They are not complicated, but they are demanding. They are not hard to understand, but they so often seem easy to forget. -Luke Weinhagen

  • The Rules

    Oct 2, 2019, 5:27 PM

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.
      Do unto others as you would have done unto you

    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.
      Do not unto others as you would not have done unto you.

    3. Via Empathia : …….The Copper Rule
      Do not unto others as they would not have done unto them.

    4. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Sovereignty and Reciprocity.
      Limit your actions to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfers, of the demonstrated interest of others, free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others by externality.

    5. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,
      ………………………….. … The Jury, and
      ………………………….. … Markets in everything.

    6. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.

  • The Rules

    Oct 2, 2019, 5:27 PM

    1. Via Positiva: ……. The Golden Rule.
      Do unto others as you would have done unto you

    2. Via Negativa: ….. The Silver Rule.
      Do not unto others as you would not have done unto you.

    3. Via Empathia : …….The Copper Rule
      Do not unto others as they would not have done unto them.

    4. Via Logica: ……….The Natural Law of Sovereignty and Reciprocity.
      Limit your actions to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfers, of the demonstrated interest of others, free of imposition of costs upon the demonstrated interests of others by externality.

    5. Via Existentia: …. Rule of Law,
      ………………………….. … The Jury, and
      ………………………….. … Markets in everything.

    6. The Iron Rule: …. Might Makes Right.

  • Kevin Macdonald on Reciprocity (important)

    Kevin Macdonald on Reciprocity (important) https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/kevin-macdonald-on-reciprocity-important/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 18:04:00 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265705329049964544

  • Kevin Macdonald on Reciprocity (important)

    Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future amazon.com (He got there!!!!) CHAPTER 2 SECTION: Reciprocity as a Trait of I-E Culture.

    —“The aristocratic individualism of the PI-Es was based on reciprocity, not despotism or kinship ties. For example, at the heart of PI-E culture was the practice of gift—giving as a reward for military accomplishment. Successful leaders were expected to reward their followers handsomely.

    [79] Oath-bound contracts of reciprocal relationships were characteristic of PI-Es and this practice continued with the various I-E groups that invaded Europe. These contracts formed the basis of patron-client relationships based on reputation—leaders could expect loyal service from their followers, and followers could expect equitable rewards for their service to the leader. This is critical because these relationships are based on talent and accomplishment, not ethnicity (i.e., rewarding people on the basis of closeness of kinship) or despotic subservience (where followers are essentially unfree). Oath-bound contracts were not only typical of the aristocratic individualism of the Mannerbunde: they extended to relationships of domination and subordination between military elites and conquered peoples, providing protection in return for service. In conjunction with the previous points, this is a prescription for feudal-type societies dominated by military elites with mutual obligations to the people they dominate, but in which kinship ties between elites and the people they dominate are relatively unimportant. Breaking Down Bonds of Kinship. PI-E society developed institutions that tended to break down strong kinship bonds. David Anthony, e.g., writes that Yamnaya cultural practices related to guest-host relationships led in a direction away from kinship toward reciprocity. These reciprocal guest-host relationships “functioned as a bridge between social units (tribes, clans) that had ordinarily restricted these relationships to their kin or co-residents.”[7—1] There were thus mechanisms to provide guest- host relationships beyond kinship where everyone had mutual obligations of hospitality; in a comment illustrating the pervasiveness and longevity of these practices, Anthony notes that this was a “way to incorporate outsiders as people with clearly defined rights and protections, as it was used in the Odyssey to medieval Europe”[72-]— another indication of the persistence of I-E culture over very long periods of historical time. The Rewards of Military Success. Besides the tangible rewards for success, successful warriors were honored in poetry. Successful leaders not only gave feasts and gifts to their followers, they were celebrated in poetry—their memory lived on long after their death. Odes proclaiming the generosity of patrons were very characteristic of widely dispersed I-E cultures (Vedic, Celtic, Greek, and Germanic), indicating an origin in late Proto-Indo-European.[7-3] As Duchesne emphasizes, at a conscious level, I-E warfare was conducted principally to gain fame and glory—”The fame of a dead man’s deeds.”[7—4] Nevertheless, to the victors remained the very tangible spoils resulting from successful military campaigns. Indo-Europeanism as a Free-Market, Individualist Culture. For my purposes, it is especially important to note that the military cultures created by the I-Es were permeable—that they were based on individual accomplishment rather than kinship ties. Indeed, I-E societies recognized that kinship biases people’s perceptions and judgments. [ … ] As noted, military leaders maintained their position by military success and by bestowing gifts upon their followers, with the most talented followers obtaining the greatest gifts. A corollary of this is that followers chose successful leaders and abandoned unsuccessful leaders. The system functioned more or less as a free-market system based on merit rather than nepotism. As in all free-market systems, the fundamental principle is reciprocity, whether it is giving gifts commensurate with contribution to the exploits of the Mc’innerbund, or, in the modern world, paying employees a wage commensurate with the value they add to the company on pain of defection to another company. And just as companies compete to obtain talented employees in the modern world, I-E military leaders competed to attract a following of talented warriors. Reciprocity thus lies at the heart of societies based on individualism.”— FROM: Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future

  • Kevin Macdonald on Reciprocity (important)

    Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future amazon.com (He got there!!!!) CHAPTER 2 SECTION: Reciprocity as a Trait of I-E Culture.

    —“The aristocratic individualism of the PI-Es was based on reciprocity, not despotism or kinship ties. For example, at the heart of PI-E culture was the practice of gift—giving as a reward for military accomplishment. Successful leaders were expected to reward their followers handsomely.

    [79] Oath-bound contracts of reciprocal relationships were characteristic of PI-Es and this practice continued with the various I-E groups that invaded Europe. These contracts formed the basis of patron-client relationships based on reputation—leaders could expect loyal service from their followers, and followers could expect equitable rewards for their service to the leader. This is critical because these relationships are based on talent and accomplishment, not ethnicity (i.e., rewarding people on the basis of closeness of kinship) or despotic subservience (where followers are essentially unfree). Oath-bound contracts were not only typical of the aristocratic individualism of the Mannerbunde: they extended to relationships of domination and subordination between military elites and conquered peoples, providing protection in return for service. In conjunction with the previous points, this is a prescription for feudal-type societies dominated by military elites with mutual obligations to the people they dominate, but in which kinship ties between elites and the people they dominate are relatively unimportant. Breaking Down Bonds of Kinship. PI-E society developed institutions that tended to break down strong kinship bonds. David Anthony, e.g., writes that Yamnaya cultural practices related to guest-host relationships led in a direction away from kinship toward reciprocity. These reciprocal guest-host relationships “functioned as a bridge between social units (tribes, clans) that had ordinarily restricted these relationships to their kin or co-residents.”[7—1] There were thus mechanisms to provide guest- host relationships beyond kinship where everyone had mutual obligations of hospitality; in a comment illustrating the pervasiveness and longevity of these practices, Anthony notes that this was a “way to incorporate outsiders as people with clearly defined rights and protections, as it was used in the Odyssey to medieval Europe”[72-]— another indication of the persistence of I-E culture over very long periods of historical time. The Rewards of Military Success. Besides the tangible rewards for success, successful warriors were honored in poetry. Successful leaders not only gave feasts and gifts to their followers, they were celebrated in poetry—their memory lived on long after their death. Odes proclaiming the generosity of patrons were very characteristic of widely dispersed I-E cultures (Vedic, Celtic, Greek, and Germanic), indicating an origin in late Proto-Indo-European.[7-3] As Duchesne emphasizes, at a conscious level, I-E warfare was conducted principally to gain fame and glory—”The fame of a dead man’s deeds.”[7—4] Nevertheless, to the victors remained the very tangible spoils resulting from successful military campaigns. Indo-Europeanism as a Free-Market, Individualist Culture. For my purposes, it is especially important to note that the military cultures created by the I-Es were permeable—that they were based on individual accomplishment rather than kinship ties. Indeed, I-E societies recognized that kinship biases people’s perceptions and judgments. [ … ] As noted, military leaders maintained their position by military success and by bestowing gifts upon their followers, with the most talented followers obtaining the greatest gifts. A corollary of this is that followers chose successful leaders and abandoned unsuccessful leaders. The system functioned more or less as a free-market system based on merit rather than nepotism. As in all free-market systems, the fundamental principle is reciprocity, whether it is giving gifts commensurate with contribution to the exploits of the Mc’innerbund, or, in the modern world, paying employees a wage commensurate with the value they add to the company on pain of defection to another company. And just as companies compete to obtain talented employees in the modern world, I-E military leaders competed to attract a following of talented warriors. Reciprocity thus lies at the heart of societies based on individualism.”— FROM: Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition: Evolutionary Origins, History, and Prospects for the Future

  • Propertarianism is a system for all peoples

    Propertarianism is a system for all peoples. https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/27/propertarianism-is-a-system-for-all-peoples/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-27 17:56:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265703466590261249

  • Propertarianism is a system for all peoples.

    Oct 9, 2019, 12:10 PM

    Propertarianism is a system for all peoples. Let a thousand nations bloom. Every man a sheriff. No more lies.–Ryan Drummond