I mean Tucker, Hoppe, Augustus, Storey and others have sort of come around. What about Mises Institute? Are the out of the rothbardian dead end yet? Or still on physical property, open borders, free trade, voluntary commons, and that fighting is substitutable? What about CATO?
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-28 02:20:39 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177770063581138944
PROPERTARIANS (RULE OF LAW)
One brick at a time we build the intellectual fortress of our civilization. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-27 16:04:03 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177614889038299136
PROPERTARIANS (RULE OF LAW)
One brick at a time we build the intellectual fortress of our civilization. 😉
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-27 12:03:00 UTC
YES, NORMS ARE COMMON PROPERTY
by Martin Stepan
—“So if such a thing as via-positiva norms do exist, is it possible for there to be violations of reciprocity by not adhering to said via positive norms? Or would this just be considered to be a violation of someone’s notion of the “the good”, and therefore intangible property if they show a willingness to defend it?”—Michael Bernard
As long as those norms remain someone’s demonstrated interest, you can violate reciprocity by subverting them. You can always go live somewhere else where they’ll have you and norms will be more to your liking.
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-27 11:51:00 UTC
LAW: PROPERTY MUST INCLUDE ANYTHING PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DEFEND WITH VIOLENCE
by Martin Štěpán
—“First, it is important to note that “property” (at least according to libertarians) is a strictly normative or legal concept. It is intended to provide a social framework by which violent conflict may be avoided, and to serve as the philosophical benchmark for adjudication if and when such violent conflict does occur.”—
Which is really all you need to know. If this is the purpose of legally recognizing property, it logically follows that we have to recognize anything that people are willing to defend with violence so that they can defend it in court instead.
So anything that follows after this and claims some kind of property isn’t genuine or legitimate and doesn’t actually consider willingness to use violence is inconsistent with the paragraph above and mere rationalization.
I still like C Chase and see he means well but he could have asked any of us before critiquing, if not Curt directly – there’s plenty of others ready to answer.
(referring to a straw man critique by chris chase)
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-27 11:26:00 UTC
THE END OF THE DISCUSSION OF SOVEREIGNTY LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.
***The law must satisfy the market for dispute resolution, where property consists in the enumeration of those subjects of conflict having been decided by the law, and where the scope of property insured under the law is determined by the market for dispute resolution. And where reciprocity is always and everywhere decidable under all circumstances under which there is human conflict – because it is purely empirical, purely logical, purely rational, and of evolutionary necessity.***
Thus endeth the lesson.
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-26 15:52:00 UTC
To answer the original nonsense-argument, that people produce not markets, this is patently false. Rule of Law produces, markets, and markets produce risk takers and organizers, and less and less frequently labor. The value is created by the risk, the organization, and not labor.
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-25 23:21:32 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1177000212306583552
Reply addressees: @BobMurphyEcon
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176999786496561153
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@BobMurphyEcon (Staying on message: rothbardian libertarianism is just Common Property Marxism – the low trust ethics of sheep herders and the ghetto. No more useful idiots. The only source of Sovereignty, Liberty, or Freedom is Rule of Law insured by every able bodied man bearing arms. Period.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1176999786496561153
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@curtdoolittle
@BobMurphyEcon (Staying on message: rothbardian libertarianism is just Common Property Marxism – the low trust ethics of sheep herders and the ghetto. No more useful idiots. The only source of Sovereignty, Liberty, or Freedom is Rule of Law insured by every able bodied man bearing arms. Period.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1176999786496561153
(Staying on message: rothbardian libertarianism is just Common Property Marxism – the low trust ethics of sheep herders and the ghetto. No more useful idiots. The only source of Sovereignty, Liberty, or Freedom is Rule of Law insured by every able bodied man bearing arms. Period.
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-25 23:19:51 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176999786496561153
Reply addressees: @BobMurphyEcon
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176999138925436928
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@BobMurphyEcon Socialists drive produce arbitrary rule disregarding not only the external but the internal, and driving people into the market for corruption, rent seeking, and black markets. So the capitalism vs socialism debate distracts us from the west’s origin: Rule of Law by reciprocity.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1176999138925436928
IN REPLY TO:
@curtdoolittle
@BobMurphyEcon Socialists drive produce arbitrary rule disregarding not only the external but the internal, and driving people into the market for corruption, rent seeking, and black markets. So the capitalism vs socialism debate distracts us from the west’s origin: Rule of Law by reciprocity.
Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1176999138925436928
UM, NO MORE USEFUL IDIOTS. IT’S RULE OF LAW VS NOT
—“Markets don’t produce a damn thing. People do. Capitalism is killing us.”—psychobabble @terieUSA
—“Capitalism doesn’t kill us, people do.”—Robert P. Murphy @BobMurphyEcon
The capitalism vs socialism dichotomy is yet another bit of Pilpul to distract useful idiots. The question is and always will be Rule of Law vs Rule by Discretion.
Rule of law produces markets limited by externality, where “capitalists” want free trade regardless of externality.
Socialists drive to produce arbitrary rule disregarding not only the external but the internal, and driving people into the market for corruption, rent seeking, and black markets.
So the capitalism vs socialism debate distracts us from the west’s origin: Rule of Law by reciprocity.
(Staying on message: rothbardian libertarianism is just Common Property Marxism – the low trust ethics of sheep herders and the ghetto. No more useful idiots. The only source of Sovereignty, Liberty, or Freedom is Rule of Law insured by every able bodied man bearing arms. Period.
To answer the original nonsense-argument, that people produce not markets, this is patently false. Rule of Law produces, markets, and markets produce risk takers and organizers, and less and less frequently labor. The value is created by the risk, the organization, and not labor.
That’s just the evidence. In fact, over the next fifty years the increasing decline in the value of labor will require paying people to not interfere in the market they depend upon because all they are able to do is generate demand for consumption given the disutility of labor.
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-25 19:25:00 UTC
Property as A Human Behavior https://propertarianism.com/2019/09/25/property-as-a-human-behavior/
Source date (UTC): 2019-09-25 15:13:00 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1176877268905472002