Theme: Measurement

  • Grammars Matter

    October 28th, 2018 8:38 AM GRAMMARS MATTER: COMPACT MONOPOLY CONFLATIONARY STAGNANT DYSGENIC VS DIFFERENTIATED MARKET DEFLATIONARY EVOLUTIONARY, EUGENIC SOCIAL ORDERS (important concepts)

    —“You might want to take a look at Eric Voegelin’s distinction between “compact” and “differentiated” symbolic systems.”– Chip Sills

    [I] understand it but it’s psychological not scientific and I work with the scientific model instead. In the end we face problems of computational cost (neural economy), and the grammars (models, objects, relations, values) that allow us to calculate (make comparisons, judgements, plans), offset by the frictions of status(face), and our order’s demand for either status(public/economic) or face (familial/personal), and local competition (homogeneity vs heterogeneity) and the institutions(norms, traditions, values, formal institutions) that arise from those conditions in the geography we sustain ourselves within. Simple people need simple anthropomorphic means of computation by free association (dream state, imagination, intuition) and more sophisticated people require means of calculation and computation that are increasingly more precise than the limits of human scale present in anthropomorphic models(grammars). So simple people and civilizations use high context/low precision grammars, and more complex civilizations use low context/high precision grammars. And our languages slowly evolve into “pidgins’ for high context, and large vocabulary nouns in low context for lower cognitive load, and for higher precision at the cost of higher cognitive load. So what Vogelin refers to as compact vs differentiated is an insightful version, rendering the choice psychological or arbitrary, where I use more precise, higher precision, terms and definitions, that expose the causes and consequences, and the non-arbitrariness of the relationship. Moreover, the CONFLATIONARY structure of MONOPOLY (monotheistic) religions and the MARKET structure of western civilization (poly grammatical) provides some of the best evidence of how monotheism (compact, monopoly, conflationary) models are easier to understand, but produce of necessity ignorance , stagnation, decline, and dysgenia. I hope this helps.

  • AGAIN: OPERATIONS (REAL) VS SETS (IDEAL) – CANTOR AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEM I

    AGAIN: OPERATIONS (REAL) VS SETS (IDEAL) – CANTOR AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROBLEM IN MATHEMATICS AND BY EXTENSION EVERYTHING.

    —“Ok but Cantor’s work is specifically set-theoretic, not analytical. Also, an infinite sum is by definition a sum over a countable set. So cantor’s notions are in fact relevant for this.”—Alex Pareto

    Yes it is a sacred cow because people who are (knowingly or unknowingly) mathematical platonists are just as indoctrinated into superstitious nonsense as people who are indoctrinated into platonism proper, and people indoctrinated into theology. They know how to DO what they do (meaning make arguments with the objects, relations, and values of their vocabulary and grammar) but they don’t know how and why what they do functions.

    Frequencies are the scientific description and infinities (sizes) the fictional (imaginary) description. The difference is that those of us who work in the sciences, where we CANNOT engage in Platonism, because that is the purpose of science: to prevent such ‘magical’ speech, and instead force us to undrestand the causal relations between reality and our speech.

    So in this case a number consists of nothing more than the name of a position. That’s it. Mathematics consists of the vocabulary and grammar of positional names. Nothing more. Period.

    We generate positional names by the process of positional naming. We can scientifically describe that process as did Babbage, Turing, and Computer Science (consisting of nothing but addition), with gears, or the positional equivalent of gears (positional names), or the electronic-switch(memory) of positional names, and use these gears to produce positional names and operations on positional names at varying speeds. We can also tell a ‘story’ about those things (a fiction) which is what we do with literary, symbolic, and set mathematics. And then we can tell a fairy tale about sets, as if they are an equivalent to red riding hood.

    But no matter what we do, operationally, (scientifically) all we can do is produce a series of positional names faster or slower than another series of positional names.

    Ergo, there exists only one name “infinity” for “unknown limit of operations” and different rates (frequencies) by which we generate positional names, using any set of operations with which we produce positional names.

    This is why mathematics ‘went off the rails’ into fictionalism despite Poincare’s and others efforts at the beginning of the 20th century. Math is just the use of positional names which have only one property: position, and therefore only ONE constant relation: position.

    All logic consists of the study of constant relations, and as such mathematics provides the most commensurable language of constant relations, since it has only ONE constant relation: position.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-28 08:43:00 UTC

  • GRAMMARS MATTER: COMPACT MONOPOLY CONFLATIONARY STAGNANT DYSGENIC VS DIFFERENTIA

    GRAMMARS MATTER: COMPACT MONOPOLY CONFLATIONARY STAGNANT DYSGENIC VS DIFFERENTIATED MARKET DEFLATIONARY EVOLUTIONARY, EUGENIC SOCIAL ORDERS

    (important concepts)

    —“You might want to take a look at Eric Voegelin’s distinction between “compact” and “differentiated” symbolic systems.”– Chip Sills

    I understand it but it’s psychological not scientific and I work with the scientific model instead. In the end we face problems of computational cost (neural economy), and the grammars (models, objects, relations, values) that allow us to calculate (make comparisons, judgements, plans), offset by the frictions of status(face), and our order’s demand for either status(public/economic) or face (familial/personal), and local competition (homogeneity vs heterogeneity) and the institutions(norms, traditions, values, formal institutions) that arise from those conditions in the geography we sustain ourselves within.

    Simple people need simple anthropomorphic means of computation by free association (dream state, imagination, intuition) and more sophisticated people require means of calculation and computation that are increasingly more precise than the limits of human scale present in anthropomorphic models(grammars).

    So simple people and civilizations use high context/low precision grammars, and more complex civilizations use low context/high precision grammars. And our languages slowly evolve into “pidgins’ for high context, and large vocabulary nouns in low context for lower cognitive load, and for higher precision at the cost of higher cognitive load.

    So what Vogelin refers to as compact vs differentiated is an insightful version, rendering the choice psychological or arbitrary, where I use more precise, higher precision, terms and definitions, that expose the causes and consequences, and the non-arbitrariness of the relationship. Moreover, the CONFLATIONARY structure of MONOPOLY (monotheistic) religions and the MARKET structure of western civilization (poly grammatical) provides some of the best evidence of how monotheism (compact, monopoly, conflationary) models are easier to understand, but produce of necessity ignorance , stagnation, decline, and dysgenia.

    I hope this helps.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-28 08:38:00 UTC

  • ie: did you generate commensurability between measurements

    ie: did you generate commensurability between measurements.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 20:28:44 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056281566463361031

    Reply addressees: @BrentWRoberts @DegenRolf @PsychoSchmitt

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  • So how many associations or questions did you use, and how did your results comp

    So how many associations or questions did you use, and how did your results compare to individuals taking a 5F test, so that we know that you’re measuring signal not noise?


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 20:27:51 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056281342630080513

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  • it’s a serious question. You posted the No Evidence Paper. I went to dropbox and

    it’s a serious question. You posted the No Evidence Paper. I went to dropbox and scanned through it. My question is simple, I couldn’t determine how you were collecting the measurement of conscientiousness other than by the use of a small number of word associations. …


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 20:26:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056281075952033793

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  • Which KIND of advantage. My private school was a social and emotional paradise c

    Which KIND of advantage. My private school was a social and emotional paradise compared to public school. I can’t find many who disagree. How do we measure socialization?


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 20:09:59 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056276845505773568

    Reply addressees: @DegenRolf

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    Pupils enrolled in private elementary schools did not show any performance advantages compared to those in public elementary schools. https://t.co/tRUuefr6q1 https://t.co/9wM6rWqYub

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  • What is the tested relationship between your ‘abbreviated’ test and the full fiv

    What is the tested relationship between your ‘abbreviated’ test and the full five factor. (if it’s in there I didn’t see it) Because either I don’t undrestand something or you’re just generating noise, which is why you’re getting lower correspondence than MBTI.


    Source date (UTC): 2018-10-27 19:46:44 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1056270995001147392

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  • Someday…

    October 27th, 2018 10:24 AM SOMEDAY … [S]omeday, I have fairly high confidence, nearly everyone will understand my work on the grammars, from measurements to fictionalisms, and what sounds ‘odd’ in my categorization of prose is as normal as enumerating logic, math, physics, chemistry, biology, and ecology. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. And that is why the Vitruvianist, Testimonialist and Propertarian revolution will be as impactful in the social and political sciences as the empirical revolution in the physical sciences.

  • Someday…

    October 27th, 2018 10:24 AM SOMEDAY … [S]omeday, I have fairly high confidence, nearly everyone will understand my work on the grammars, from measurements to fictionalisms, and what sounds ‘odd’ in my categorization of prose is as normal as enumerating logic, math, physics, chemistry, biology, and ecology. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. And that is why the Vitruvianist, Testimonialist and Propertarian revolution will be as impactful in the social and political sciences as the empirical revolution in the physical sciences.