Theme: Governance

  • Philip Saunders hits a homer. —“Okay, I think I have a clearer idea of what yo

    Philip Saunders hits a homer.

    —“Okay, I think I have a clearer idea of what you’re saying. High trust, truth based polities will accelerate past polities which don’t uphold these standards. The law itself is boiled down to the point that most people can understand it, be held responsible for it, and enforce it. We also extend common law bans on commercial fraud to interpersonal fraud. So if you impose costs informationally, then you are culpable. is that Close?”—Philip Saunders

    More than close. Better said than I could say it. ๐Ÿ™‚ Awesome.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-11 09:50:00 UTC

  • They will rally around a message at the first opportunity. I suspect we have unt

    They will rally around a message at the first opportunity. I suspect we have until March at the latest before we have to start attacking them in another wave.

    I would like it very much if that wave was ‘why do you have to lie, cheat, and steal, and claim bads are goods, instead of trade with us?’


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-09 08:33:00 UTC

  • “I’ve read enough of your text to brand you a promotor of a “new” governmental r

    —“I’ve read enough of your text to brand you a promotor of a “new” governmental rule which bridge s the gap between authoritarianism and a classic monarchy.”—

    No, it restores and extends both (a) monarchy (houses for each class), and (b) rule of natural law by (c) restoring markets and replacing majority assent with default assent and universal legal dissent.

    As a tongue in cheek bit of humor I’ve also labelled it “market fascism”, which, while a contradiction in terms, draws attention to the fact that if we grant protection to the informational commons, it’s actually impossible to legally criticize this form of government – although entirely possible to criticize actions within it.

    –“You didn’t actually create Propertarianism itself,”–

    Yes the TERM was extant but almost never used. And the concept of the ‘reduction of all rights to statements of property rights’ existed. And that is why, at the time, i also registered ‘propertarians.com’ and created a site at that address to show the sequence from stoics > locke > rothbard > hoppe > doolittle to demonstrate how long it had taken to solve the problem of a category of commensurability in social science like we had created with prices more narrowly in economics. I abandoned that project because of the effort to create that particular narrative, and because I no longer wanted to be associated with Rothbard because of his ghetto(levantine) ethics.

    I created that set of ideas I’ve called ‘Propertarianism’, and I intentionally used the term (which was derogatory). We debated quite a bit about continuing to use it once we discovered testimonialism in epistemology, and again when we Sovereignty was the cause of western civilization, but by then the brand had stuck. So I went with the advice of retaining Propertarianism.

    My insights into the Propertarian concept can be reduced (largely) to (1) demonstrated property: “Property in Toto”, and the subsequent demonstration that Moral Foundations Theory can be restated as property rights – thereby explaining our varying moral intuitions about the distribution of interests in ‘property’; and (2) that those interests function as a distribution of perceptual, cognitive, knowledge, advocacy, and labor. There are other insights but these are the two most important. (3) And that as I’d originally intended, it was possible to restate in scientific terms Hoppe’s (tragic) use of kantian justificationary rationalism, and Rothbard’s use of Jewish (immoral) law and the technique of “Pilpul”, and Mises (tragic) failure to understand his discovery of economic ‘intuitionism’/’operationalism’ and instead creating a pseudoscience – and in doing so ‘complete’ the promise of the propertarian method, thereby ‘completing’ the creation of a universal method of commensurability in social science.

    There are a few dozen of these insights that arise as a consequence, but these are the the primary ones that the rest derive from.

    Today I use the term Propertarianism to refer to the entire framework of The Laws of Nature – which is the correct descriptive name of the project, and what i will publish under.

    It includes:

    1 – Metaphysics of Action

    2 – Testimonial Truth – the completion of the scientific method.

    3 – Propertarian Ethics – the completion of ethical commensurability

    4 – the natural law of sovereignty

    5 – market government under natural law of sovereignty

    6 – group evolutionary strategy (group competition)

    7 – A restatement of psychology, sociology, politics, and group evolutionary startegy in propertarian terms.

    8 – Aesthetics (Truth, Beauty, and Commons[goodness] )

    You might note that the statistical anomaly in my writing is the word ‘commons’ and that I focus on creating commons and normative commons, and high trust normative commons in particular as the competitive strategy of western civilization.

    –IQ—

    Well I don’t make that claim right? I state (often) that demonstrated intelligence consists of at least four categories, one of which is ‘wants’, and that as far as I can tell, after 140 or so it’s more a matter of effort and time than intelligence. And that in practice, success (and wealth) is more an effort of character than of ability. And that, demonstrably, most wealth is created by the middle class (people of slightly above average intelligence) because most wealth is created by the construction and sale of small and medium businesses.

    Creating concepts is however, fairly rare. There are not too many of them in history (See both Murray and Adler). And in my experience, I’ve spent most of my life on this problem – although I worked nearly full time on it for only about ten years.

    That seems to be what all the data indicates: it takes about a decade to master a field sufficiently to provide an insight into it.

    — foe —

    Sorry man. In the end, violence and truth rule over parasitism, excuse making and gossip. You and yours have only liberty by permission. It’s our permission. It’s revokable. Why? Because you and yours have always failed. Because while you can master gossip and ridicule like women, you cannot climb the ladder to truth and violence.

    You industrialized lying. And you’re just another parasitic liar.

    And we are, within the next few decades going to use that violence and truth and law to impose violence upon those who industrialized, and continue to practice, lying.

    Man is too important a creature to leave to undomesticated animals that must lie and succor upon others to survive.

    ๐Ÿ˜‰

    http://selfadoration.com/cold-blooded-vengeance-exposing-curt-doolittles-and-libertarianisms-inner-thug/8159#comment-9960


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-09 07:51:00 UTC

  • “You cannot have Switzerland without Germany. You cannot have Canada without USA

    —“You cannot have Switzerland without Germany. You cannot have Canada without USA .. Respect does not keep people from conquering you. The weak benefit from a friend who is feared.”— Doug Holland


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-08 15:17:00 UTC

  • So, we’re saying that Russia did what America does every day and that, Russia, U

    So, we’re saying that Russia did what America does every day and that, Russia, USA/UK, have had this policy for over 100yrs.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-07 13:01:29 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/817717795521777664

    Reply addressees: @washingtonpost

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/817716310159355904


    IN REPLY TO:

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    The most important lines from the new intelligence report on Russiaโ€™s hacking https://t.co/TVRdMQOHaN https://t.co/3Uigu24G66

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  • “Identity politics mixed with a notion of universal tolerance renders preferenti

    —“Identity politics mixed with a notion of universal tolerance renders preferential ethic/moral propositions and normative means of decidability ineffective, therefore resorting to Law to accomplish their goals.

    I say law opposed to natural law, as the natural law would eventually restore normative and preferential in group methods (because it focusses on reciprocity and property in toto – property in toto includes social portfolios of groups – thus would protect the preferential and normative methods).

    Therefore identitarians must seek legislation or regulation as a means to accomplish their ends. The natural law would prevent their ends – ends which necessitate the destruction of social commons of other groups.

    If they accomplish the destruction of the “dominant culture”, destruction of each other (each “oppressed” group) would be a natural consequence.

    Natural Law stands as a last resort when preferential and normative means fails and stands as the default method across disparate groups who do not share or do not have enough overlap of preferential and normative means.

    Natural law provides commensurability between disparate groups.

    Legislation/regulation provides a method of destroying disparate groups – a means of predation(at worst) and parasitism (at best). “—Bill Joslin


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-04 12:46:00 UTC

  • POPULIST POSSIBILITIES (to molyneux) Michael DeMarco Topics of this scale are no

    POPULIST POSSIBILITIES

    (to molyneux)

    Michael DeMarco

    Topics of this scale are not a subject for call in’s. Just establishing context is an effort. And it’s too likely to convert into a debate that I would win and not necessarily want to. Whereas an interview allows for a gradual meeting of minds and exploration of how the pursuit of liberty (by permission) might be restored to the pursuit of sovereignty (in fact) now that we have fully displaced our martial aristocracy with a secular priesthood so to speak, that no longer willingly grants us permission if we earn it.

    While I have spent a substantive effort discrediting the Mises/Rothbard/Hoppe/Friedman, arguments, other than a few early comments, I’ve left Stefan alone since firstly, it appears he has tried to find an alternate path to justifying the libertarian intuition compatible with traditional western ethics. And secondly, because my criticisms would largely be of a technical nature – meaning survival:criticism and science vs explanation: justification and rationalism. So I view him as doing profound good without doing substantive harm.

    That said, conversely, Stefan is an incredible educator, and if equipped with some of my arguments it would empower him further with greater reach and greater explanatory power.

    I have no interest in popularity. But at present, in this time of change, stefan is serving as english speaking liberty’s olive branch (via positiva): Inspiration, And I am serving as it’s bundle of arrows (via negativa): Law.

    And that combination of ideas provides a very interesting possibility in this long-anticipated era of rapid change.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-04 05:27:00 UTC

  • WE ALREADY *ARE* THE BEST —“We already ARE the best Libertarians, Conservative

    WE ALREADY *ARE* THE BEST

    —“We already ARE the best Libertarians, Conservatives, and Progressives

    Libertarianism is concerned with access to markets and suppression of free riding. We do that better than them.

    Conservatives are interested in preservation of Capital and long term investment in families. We do that better too

    Progressives, when they aren’t batshit crazy, are interested in advancing the interests of the over looked and under represented.

    We have solutions to that problem too, as it’s a goal of increasing the property in toto of so called minority groups.

    Incremental suppression, full accounting and property in toto mean that the goals of all non Propertarians are best served by Propertarians.

    The reason they won’t debate is that we would expose both their goals AND their lies”— Con Eli Khan


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-03 16:49:00 UTC

  • Find the best 10 libertarians, best 10 conservatives, best 10 progressives, and

    Find the best 10 libertarians, best 10 conservatives, best 10 progressives, and best 10 propertarians. Bring all together for a debate.

    We would absolutely crush them all.

    The difference between advocates and prosecutors.

    The difference between excuse makers and truth tellers.

    The difference between positiva and negativa.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-03 07:27:00 UTC

  • the market isn’t sufficient for ostracization. this is one of the fallacies of l

    the market isn’t sufficient for ostracization.

    this is one of the fallacies of libertarianism. in fact, minor increases in transaction costs produce multiplier effects on the economy and property rights and as a consequence – demand for the state.

    This argument goes back to one of the fallacies of introspection: which ‘man’ is ‘man’? Is he the superpredator that must be domesticated? The rational actor that we must limit to productive ends? The peaceful cooperator that was oppressed by the evolution of government or the state? Hobbes, Locke, or Rousseau?

    Must we use authority(hobbes), markets(locke), or caretaking(rousseau) to construct our society for most optimum ends?

    or is it, as I have proposed, that man is a rational actor and that through domestication (eugenic reproduction by market means) we have limited the pool of humans to those that can function within the market order?

    We make use of KIN SELECTION in the pursuit of opportunities, NORMATIVE ostracization as a means of depriving others of opportunities , and CRIMINAL prosecution in order to punish them for violations, and WAR when all else fails.

    Because we must do so.

    only children or those with the minds of children seek monopoly solutions. There are three methods of coercion: violence and its threat, remuneration/deprivation of opportunity, and rallying/shaming.

    Lose any one and you merely open the door for predation by that means.


    Source date (UTC): 2017-01-02 19:20:00 UTC