Theme: Governance

  • Iran Shot Down the Ukrainian Airliner

    Jan 9, 2020, 3:53 PM UPDATE: Video of missile striking plane.

    —“According to the U.S. official U.S. intelligence is confident that Iran painted the Ukrainian airliner with radar and fired two surface to air missiles that brought down the aircraft.”—

    That particular phrasing means it happened. US military intel can see any ‘painting’ of a plane using radar, especially in Iran. So Ukraine follows Russia as shooting down an airliner in the past decade – something that has become a rarity with IFF signals, better radars, and computer technology. In 2014 Russians in Donetsk shot down a Malay airliner In 2001 Ukrainians shot down a Siberian airliner In 2001 Peru shot down a small plane misidentified by CIA In 1992 the Azerbaijanis shot down an Armenian Airliner In 1988 the USA shot down an Iranian airliner.!!!! In 1983 the Russians shot down a Korean Airliner+ In 1980 the Zambians shot down an Angolan Airliner In 1980 the Libyans shot down an Italian Airliner+ In 1978 the Soviets shot down a Korean Airliner+ In 1973 the Israelis shot down a Libyan Airline+ In 1962 the Soviets shot down their own Airliner In 1954 the Chinese shot down a Cathay Airliner In 1943 the Germans shot down a British Airliner+ (+ Means intentional. Most of these are accidents.) There are quite a few others, but they are all the actions of rebels, insurgents, or terrorists. There are of course many bombings and Hijackings but those are again, rebels, insurgents, or terrorists.

  • Aristocratic Republic Is the Only Possible Application of Democracy

    Aristocratic Republic Is the Only Possible Application of Democracy https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/25/aristocratic-republic-is-the-only-possible-application-of-democracy/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-25 23:22:18 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265060656685953027

  • Aristocratic Republic Is the Only Possible Application of Democracy

    Jan 10, 2020, 4:23 PM by Scott De Warren European democracy (a rare and delicate bird) was exclusively aristocratic from ancient Hellas down to modern times. The French counter-enlightenment spread the obvious lie of human equality to justify the proletarian revolution (overthrow of demonstrated excellence in governance) through the universal franchise. When leftists conflate the one with the other (Proletarian rule with aristocratic rule) they are lying. Historic European representative government either in ancient Hellas or the republics of Genoa and Venice was always based on a limited franchise (it was always aristocratic) as was the aristocratic republic of the United States ab origine. The only democracy worth preserving is the aristocratic kind where political participation is a privilege limited to families of demonstrated ability or excellence over time.

  • Aristocratic Republic Is the Only Possible Application of Democracy

    Jan 10, 2020, 4:23 PM by Scott De Warren European democracy (a rare and delicate bird) was exclusively aristocratic from ancient Hellas down to modern times. The French counter-enlightenment spread the obvious lie of human equality to justify the proletarian revolution (overthrow of demonstrated excellence in governance) through the universal franchise. When leftists conflate the one with the other (Proletarian rule with aristocratic rule) they are lying. Historic European representative government either in ancient Hellas or the republics of Genoa and Venice was always based on a limited franchise (it was always aristocratic) as was the aristocratic republic of the United States ab origine. The only democracy worth preserving is the aristocratic kind where political participation is a privilege limited to families of demonstrated ability or excellence over time.

  • Questions on The Propertarian-Constitution

    Jan 13, 2020, 3:54 PM

    —“I wasn’t sure where to ask these questions. If it’s easier to just give me a link to read answers, then please do.  1) Who does get to vote? 2) Do we retain a representative republic? If not, what replaces it?”— A Friend

    To answer those questions clearly I have to make a couple of statements in advance – otherwise it’s too likely you’ll spin on assumptions no matter what I say. 1) The reason we have so much conflict in government is that the left was successful in reframing (as they always do) rule OF law that limited the government to a narrow range of permissible actions, as rule BY law, where whatever the government can agree to by majority is permissible. As such the citizenry (YOU) are always asking the wrong questions and proposing the wrong solutions. Instead, if we restore rule OF law, and we produce a sufficiently scientific and logical body of law, then it doesn’t matter what government you put in place – they can only do what they do truthfully and reciprocally. And if you restore our rights to sue anyone for anything as long as loser pays – then we have recreated markets for goods and services (economy), markets for commons (government) and markets for punishment of irreciprocity in economy or commons (court). So the propertarian constitution focuses (“via-negativa”, meaning ‘by the negative”) on prohibiting falsehood and irreciprocity, rather than producing presumed ‘goods’. 2) The propertarian constitution is structured as amendments to the Constitution of the United States (“CSA”), in order to preserve it as a “going concern”, so all debts and agreements private and public remain. This is to prevent world chaos and uncertainty. 3) Our goal is to provide the ability of people with different cognitive biases and preferences to pursue their group’s interests and strategy but to prevent them from imposing upon others strategies. This is because as we have become wealthier we are not – as predicted – seeking the same things, but in fact, seeking very opposite things, and under the presumption that peace is only possible if all people have the right to self determination – at least by moving to bet near and with those who share it – as was the western tradition. 4) Structurally it restores the original intent, which was a united states of Europe. In other words, to create a set of european states under a British system of common laws. In other words, just as the church had functioned as a weak federal government in Europe, they sought to create a secular weak federal government in America, with each State, as was common in the pre-unification german princedoms, the holy roman empire (most of Germanic Europe from 800ad to 1800’s), and all of european history, a set of states. However, they needed a federal government to unite enough people and resources to prevent european re-conquest of the american continent. And in the end the problem they had, that we do not have today, was the ability to print money as debt to themselves rather than use hard money. That may be confusing but it means that they needed a common defense when it was an era of hard (real) money, and there was no other way of paying for it. We don’t have that problem any longer. On the other hand, there is no reason for our federal government to do anything OTHER than fund a military that prevents creating of political competition on the continent. This limitation of the federal government’s AND the state’s powers is restored in our Propertarian Constitution. 5) We restore this original intent of separate (‘several’) states, by (a) forcibly converting blue (immigrant) cities to city states, thereby depriving them of political influence over territorial states. This give Meritocratic masculine eugenic red, and equalitarian feminine dysgenic blue states the opportunity to produce commons according to their preferences. (b) preserving the supreme court, the military, and the Treasury, but devolving necessary services to the states, and shutting down unnecessary services – most of them. (c) Eliminating the house, and converting the senate to the sitting governors, and (d) severely limiting the powers of those governors, such that they can only conduct trades between the states. They cannot modify the constitution. There is no need to. If some group violates it, the court can make a finding that suppresses that violation. This is a purely via-negativa (via the negative) federal government. All positive government must be produced individually by the states. 6) As such, regarding —“Who does get to vote?”— (a) there is no federal power, so there is no federal voting. (b) who votes and how they vote is up to the individual states. And we provide counsel as to the choices of decision making – voting being one of the choices. (b) all state constitutions must be approved by the supreme court – they must be truthful, reciprocal, and “calculable” – which I won’t explain here. (c) States do not have debts to the treasury All debts are allocated pro rata to the citizens of those states by the treasury. One can go bankrupt on any debt EXCEPT debts to the treasury. This makes it very difficult for ‘leftists’ to escape responsibility for their actions. 7) As such, regarding —“2) Do we retain a representative republic? If not, what replaces it?”— We retain a representative senate consisting of the governors of the states but majoritarianism has no power. It is a purely economic government. In other words, governance (the production of commons) is completely separate from rule (the courts). As for the individual states, they can construct whatever order they wish within the terms set in the constitution, most of which I assume will retain some semblance of the democratic model. The states do not have control over citizenship. Those criteria are set out in the constitution – and if voting is to exist – it must be limited to citizens. And the standard is quite high. 8)The primary defense is not the government. It is the law and the market for suppression of falsehood and irreciprocity via the courts. The ‘wild west’ of saying whatever nonsense you want to citizens in order to get elected is over. The ‘wild west’ of the academy teaching pseudoscience is over. That’s the difference. Government is never the answer. The only answer is the law. The common law of sovereignty and reciprocity and testimony.

  • Questions on The Propertarian-Constitution

    Jan 13, 2020, 3:54 PM

    —“I wasn’t sure where to ask these questions. If it’s easier to just give me a link to read answers, then please do.  1) Who does get to vote? 2) Do we retain a representative republic? If not, what replaces it?”— A Friend

    To answer those questions clearly I have to make a couple of statements in advance – otherwise it’s too likely you’ll spin on assumptions no matter what I say. 1) The reason we have so much conflict in government is that the left was successful in reframing (as they always do) rule OF law that limited the government to a narrow range of permissible actions, as rule BY law, where whatever the government can agree to by majority is permissible. As such the citizenry (YOU) are always asking the wrong questions and proposing the wrong solutions. Instead, if we restore rule OF law, and we produce a sufficiently scientific and logical body of law, then it doesn’t matter what government you put in place – they can only do what they do truthfully and reciprocally. And if you restore our rights to sue anyone for anything as long as loser pays – then we have recreated markets for goods and services (economy), markets for commons (government) and markets for punishment of irreciprocity in economy or commons (court). So the propertarian constitution focuses (“via-negativa”, meaning ‘by the negative”) on prohibiting falsehood and irreciprocity, rather than producing presumed ‘goods’. 2) The propertarian constitution is structured as amendments to the Constitution of the United States (“CSA”), in order to preserve it as a “going concern”, so all debts and agreements private and public remain. This is to prevent world chaos and uncertainty. 3) Our goal is to provide the ability of people with different cognitive biases and preferences to pursue their group’s interests and strategy but to prevent them from imposing upon others strategies. This is because as we have become wealthier we are not – as predicted – seeking the same things, but in fact, seeking very opposite things, and under the presumption that peace is only possible if all people have the right to self determination – at least by moving to bet near and with those who share it – as was the western tradition. 4) Structurally it restores the original intent, which was a united states of Europe. In other words, to create a set of european states under a British system of common laws. In other words, just as the church had functioned as a weak federal government in Europe, they sought to create a secular weak federal government in America, with each State, as was common in the pre-unification german princedoms, the holy roman empire (most of Germanic Europe from 800ad to 1800’s), and all of european history, a set of states. However, they needed a federal government to unite enough people and resources to prevent european re-conquest of the american continent. And in the end the problem they had, that we do not have today, was the ability to print money as debt to themselves rather than use hard money. That may be confusing but it means that they needed a common defense when it was an era of hard (real) money, and there was no other way of paying for it. We don’t have that problem any longer. On the other hand, there is no reason for our federal government to do anything OTHER than fund a military that prevents creating of political competition on the continent. This limitation of the federal government’s AND the state’s powers is restored in our Propertarian Constitution. 5) We restore this original intent of separate (‘several’) states, by (a) forcibly converting blue (immigrant) cities to city states, thereby depriving them of political influence over territorial states. This give Meritocratic masculine eugenic red, and equalitarian feminine dysgenic blue states the opportunity to produce commons according to their preferences. (b) preserving the supreme court, the military, and the Treasury, but devolving necessary services to the states, and shutting down unnecessary services – most of them. (c) Eliminating the house, and converting the senate to the sitting governors, and (d) severely limiting the powers of those governors, such that they can only conduct trades between the states. They cannot modify the constitution. There is no need to. If some group violates it, the court can make a finding that suppresses that violation. This is a purely via-negativa (via the negative) federal government. All positive government must be produced individually by the states. 6) As such, regarding —“Who does get to vote?”— (a) there is no federal power, so there is no federal voting. (b) who votes and how they vote is up to the individual states. And we provide counsel as to the choices of decision making – voting being one of the choices. (b) all state constitutions must be approved by the supreme court – they must be truthful, reciprocal, and “calculable” – which I won’t explain here. (c) States do not have debts to the treasury All debts are allocated pro rata to the citizens of those states by the treasury. One can go bankrupt on any debt EXCEPT debts to the treasury. This makes it very difficult for ‘leftists’ to escape responsibility for their actions. 7) As such, regarding —“2) Do we retain a representative republic? If not, what replaces it?”— We retain a representative senate consisting of the governors of the states but majoritarianism has no power. It is a purely economic government. In other words, governance (the production of commons) is completely separate from rule (the courts). As for the individual states, they can construct whatever order they wish within the terms set in the constitution, most of which I assume will retain some semblance of the democratic model. The states do not have control over citizenship. Those criteria are set out in the constitution – and if voting is to exist – it must be limited to citizens. And the standard is quite high. 8)The primary defense is not the government. It is the law and the market for suppression of falsehood and irreciprocity via the courts. The ‘wild west’ of saying whatever nonsense you want to citizens in order to get elected is over. The ‘wild west’ of the academy teaching pseudoscience is over. That’s the difference. Government is never the answer. The only answer is the law. The common law of sovereignty and reciprocity and testimony.

  • Government Under P-Constitution

    Government Under P-Constitution https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/25/government-under-p-constitution/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-25 23:05:10 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265056342697443328

  • Government Under P-Constitution

    Jan 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

    —“… government under p-constitution”—

    Most people talk about government rather than law and economics because they understand the triviality of decision by majority (voting). But the solution to ‘government’ isn’t government it’s law so that any government can succeed dependent upon the scale of the polity. And once we fix the law, we easily fix the government. And then rest of the solution to the present era is mostly economic. Our government arose in an era of private capital, and we have preserved the maximization of private capital BEYOND its capacity to produce returns. Just as scientific investigation has gone from individuals in workshops to small industry to major industry to requiring multiple governments to fund it – so has every other aspect of ECONOMIC investigation. Once money became shares of stock in the economy (that’s what money is), then we were freed from the problem of hard currency. But we retained the financial institutions, and the ‘limited’ incentives of institutions. And we retained treasuries and governments that exploited private sector gains, rather than produced investments that private sectors cannot. In other words, we made the government irresponsible – when it is the biggest investor in an era where returns require larger and large capital investments. Worse, we let the means of distribution of liquidity (maintain the money supply, suppress interest rates, and encourage spending, by borrowing from the citizen’s future productivity in hope of generating greater returns), intermingle interest on business production, profits from business dividends, and returns on speculative investment (stock market), with consumer spending – thereby creating a vast industry of rent seeking on consumer interest. Worse, we let the academy sell worthless unwarrantied diplomas on a scale embarrassing even to the church’s selling of indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. So between 100K debt for a useless education that serves no other purpose than to achieve what IQ and personality tests would provide any business for a pittance; claiming we need immigrants for academic labor so that universities can pay pittance wages to immigrants for what amounts to clerical work and manual labor; flooding the market with worthless degrees and even more worthless ‘research’; and the interest on that academic debt; the interest on homes artificially inflated; the payment of urban rents artificially inflated; the payment of interest on automobiles made necessary by postwar failures of planning, and we see that TRILLIONS – not billions but TRILLIONS of dollars are extracted from ordinary americans, impoverishing anyone who isn’t involved in the rent-seeking scams, such that they cannot afford to produce children. So THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOVERNMENT. It is the law and the economy, that permits the industrialization of parasitism on a scale never imagined in history other than when the priests of the ancient world threatened the peasantry with damnation if they didn’t provide them with luxurious standards of living by hard manual labor. So, the problem is reorganizing the financial system so that the THEFTS are no longer possible. That is how we will correct ‘what you all feel is wrong’ with the world. NO OTHER PERSON has provided this explanation or this means of restoration of western civilization by the total extermination of any and all who engage in parasitism upon the people. Edit

  • Government Under P-Constitution

    Jan 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

    —“… government under p-constitution”—

    Most people talk about government rather than law and economics because they understand the triviality of decision by majority (voting). But the solution to ‘government’ isn’t government it’s law so that any government can succeed dependent upon the scale of the polity. And once we fix the law, we easily fix the government. And then rest of the solution to the present era is mostly economic. Our government arose in an era of private capital, and we have preserved the maximization of private capital BEYOND its capacity to produce returns. Just as scientific investigation has gone from individuals in workshops to small industry to major industry to requiring multiple governments to fund it – so has every other aspect of ECONOMIC investigation. Once money became shares of stock in the economy (that’s what money is), then we were freed from the problem of hard currency. But we retained the financial institutions, and the ‘limited’ incentives of institutions. And we retained treasuries and governments that exploited private sector gains, rather than produced investments that private sectors cannot. In other words, we made the government irresponsible – when it is the biggest investor in an era where returns require larger and large capital investments. Worse, we let the means of distribution of liquidity (maintain the money supply, suppress interest rates, and encourage spending, by borrowing from the citizen’s future productivity in hope of generating greater returns), intermingle interest on business production, profits from business dividends, and returns on speculative investment (stock market), with consumer spending – thereby creating a vast industry of rent seeking on consumer interest. Worse, we let the academy sell worthless unwarrantied diplomas on a scale embarrassing even to the church’s selling of indulgences for the forgiveness of sins. So between 100K debt for a useless education that serves no other purpose than to achieve what IQ and personality tests would provide any business for a pittance; claiming we need immigrants for academic labor so that universities can pay pittance wages to immigrants for what amounts to clerical work and manual labor; flooding the market with worthless degrees and even more worthless ‘research’; and the interest on that academic debt; the interest on homes artificially inflated; the payment of urban rents artificially inflated; the payment of interest on automobiles made necessary by postwar failures of planning, and we see that TRILLIONS – not billions but TRILLIONS of dollars are extracted from ordinary americans, impoverishing anyone who isn’t involved in the rent-seeking scams, such that they cannot afford to produce children. So THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOVERNMENT. It is the law and the economy, that permits the industrialization of parasitism on a scale never imagined in history other than when the priests of the ancient world threatened the peasantry with damnation if they didn’t provide them with luxurious standards of living by hard manual labor. So, the problem is reorganizing the financial system so that the THEFTS are no longer possible. That is how we will correct ‘what you all feel is wrong’ with the world. NO OTHER PERSON has provided this explanation or this means of restoration of western civilization by the total extermination of any and all who engage in parasitism upon the people. Edit

  • Under the p-constitution there is no voting for a federal government since it is

    Under the p-constitution there is no voting for a federal government since it is just a collection of the governors of the states and there is no majoritarianism, just contracts. In any given state constitution, who votes is up to them. In my opinion yes, merit to vote matters.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-25 22:42:01 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265050517073510401

    Reply addressees: @WalterJ02130480

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265049565381554176