Theme: Education

  • MANDARINS AND CREDENTIALISTS ARE THE SAME (And always produce the same ends: the

    MANDARINS AND CREDENTIALISTS ARE THE SAME
    (And always produce the same ends: the conversion from empirical governmnet to ideological and finally into religous – gradual disconnection from reality.)

    Of course I agree.

    I’m on a warpath against what Turchin calls “Credentialists” and what Mike, and the fellow whose post he’s sharing refer more negatively as ‘Mandarins’.

    Yet, Mandarins proved the failures of credentialism well before us. And we should have known, that by importing the German attempt to build a professional bureaucracy (and their resulting extraordinary efficiency) would only work if like the Germans we also 1) took that bureaucracy from those who had already performed in the military, and 2) were culturally German – meaning putting the commons before the self, in loyalty, duty, and piety – which is simply the application of the military of the aristocracy and militia to the governance of the bureaucracy of the state and her people.

    Instead we have two consistent factors: (a) clientelism in the bureaucracy (b) credentialism in the bureaucracy – because industry and military who are empirical have been replaced by academy and credentialists who are ideological and anti-empirical.

    Hugs

    Curt Doolittle
    The Natural Law Institute
    The Science of Cooperation

    Reply addressees: @J58039716 @grayzoneintel


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-20 18:04:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704557176977563649

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704546250987884900

  • RT @Aristos_Revenge: @grayzoneintel I agree, and America has been locked into th

    RT @Aristos_Revenge: @grayzoneintel I agree, and America has been locked into this kind of credentialism battle ever since Hamilton and Jef…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-20 16:18:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704530500885352619

  • If you follow me for six months you’ll find about two or three dozen insights li

    If you follow me for six months you’ll find about two or three dozen insights like this that will be useful to you in understanding humanity – and maybe putting up with it, or correcting it, a little better. 😉


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 22:56:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704268272412057872

    Reply addressees: @RutRemy @antigg860413

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704267970980040970

  • RT @peterboghossian: The more applied the field, the more conservative the profe

    RT @peterboghossian: The more applied the field, the more conservative the professors. What’s really interesting is that when you parse the…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 04:42:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703992956854718582

  • RT @KirkegaardEmil: @peterboghossian Amusingly, philosophers of logic are partic

    RT @KirkegaardEmil: @peterboghossian Amusingly, philosophers of logic are particularly right-wing (that is, less left-wing).

    https://t.co/…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 04:42:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703992867608211805

  • Sam (Serious question). Can you explain why you believe so? I’m pretty confident

    Sam (Serious question). Can you explain why you believe so? I’m pretty confident that I understand the information we’ve produced over the past forty years, and I would say trying educate different groups at the same rate by the same methods given their very different maturity curves hurts all parties. In fact, the worst policy failure in our mid 20th experiment with social engineering (copying the soviets) has destroyed not only the black family, black culture, and captured the black elites who have abandoned their people, leaving rudderless impoverished communities behind.

    Every attempt we have tried, every single one, trying to treat people as identical (not equally) has led to harm across the entirety of the spectrum. While the education system hasn’t caught up we solved developmental differences before 1990, we ended the blank slate by 2000, we ended the debate over sex differences in 2012, and we ended the debate over the very large race differences in 2018. We are doing the exact opposite of what the evidence universally demonstrates: is that we need a large number of very different schools that educate the whole person – physically, with mindfulness (think what religion accomplishes), dress, hygiene, protocols manners ethics and morals, then of course the three R’s, the physical sciences overview , as well as the necessary life skills which we totally ignore, including the foundations of personal finance, the banking system, basic economics, basic contract law, basic project management, basic understanding of courts and legislatures. And we need, without tracks to provide access to labor, craftsmanship, clerical, and administrative training combined with apprenticeship, two year junion college for the medical industry, and three year for the STEM+L disciplines. And even then to separate research institutions and their funding from teaching institutions so that we put students first.

    On top of that it appears that children are increasingly intolerant of the teaching methods invented last century and before, and are better served by ‘gamification’, and gamification combined with simulations and role playing real world occupations. This is learning by doing. And with a massive supply of federally funded games and competition between localities and states maximizing innovation we would see schools be something desirable rather than endurable.

    Besides, as far as we know, schools are increasingly producing dysfunctional behavior as fast as single motherhood.

    So while I hear that you want to change things I think you might want to consider that integration isn’t the problem, but individual and group customization of education and individual attention to maximize the individual at group’s education with maximum opportunity, but … just under the limit of uncomfortable stress.

    We aren’t bees or ants. And whether we like it or not, the four primary races are substantially different in the primary direction of human evolution: neotenic evolution producing domestication syndrome, increasing life span, and delaying and reducing the depth of maturity, producing greater malleability and adaptability, greater agency and sociability, in exchange for the suppression of impulse and aggression.

    This is evident in every single measurement worldwide, without exception. So, is it better to treat biologically people the same and cause them stresses, or to treat them according to their needs, and once educated, integrate in the market where none of us cares about anything other than how cooperative we are with one another, and how competent and responsible we are?

    Thanks
    Curt

    Reply addressees: @SamtheNightOwl


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 03:13:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703970468103913472

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703564616306213306

  • I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen t

    I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen to know his wife (his third). She stepped out for a moment, and I started conversation by asking him if he was able to chat or preferred not to. And having overheard that he just flew in, and that he was downing scotch, listened to his itinerary – which gave no clue to his occupation but whatever it was he wasn’t proud of it. Men will tell you their biz if they are.
    Just then his wife returned, and I said that I was trying to pry conversation out of him. She replied that ‘He hates people’. 😉 She told me his occupation, and I started laughing and said “I’m so sorry for you.“ 😉 And he lowered his head accepting it as if it was expected. And didn’t disagree. Though admittedly he’s a bit tired. 😉
    I can’t imagine having a job where you listen to the complaining of and endless stream of overconfident clueless harpies pursing self interest under cover over moral duty with emotional loading of conviction.
    So I wait until they’re about to leave and “Can I ask one more question? What’s the best and worst aspect of your job?” He lit up and said that the best part of my job is the 500,000 kids I have that I love and care for.” He said the exact number, but I didn’t write it down at the time. “The hardest part is that this is adiverse state and every [locality] is very different. So I worry about giving all these kids a choice of achieving the life they want. And our biggest problem is that everyone can’t and doesn’t want to got to college (and something about how the weren’t helping them).”
    Now, what I see is a good person, who is passionate for his or, and holds a moral conviction to serve the children, but one that is limited like everyone from producing excellence instead of pleasing students and parent’s fantasies. What I heard later was the need to focus too much on their state of mind. What I didn’t get was any sense of the children developing responsibility and duty and putting in the work necessary to compete in the modern economy. An economy which he later stated, had a high cost of living vs the income of a lot of the student’s families.
    Unless we are more demanding, we are not going to produce a competent generation, and we will continue our demographic decline.

    Love you all.
    Cheers
    Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 02:01:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703952491522498562

  • I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen t

    I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen to know his wife (his third). She stepped out for a moment, and I started conversation by asking him if he was able to chat or preferred not to. And having overheard that he just flew in, and that he was downing scotch, listened to his itinerary – which gave no clue to his occupation but whatever it was he wasn’t proud of it. Men will tell you their biz if they are.
    Just then his wife returned, and I said that I was trying to pry conversation out of him. She replied that ‘He hates people’. 😉 She told me his occupation, and I started laughing and said “I’m so sorry for you.“ 😉 And he lowered his head accepting it as if it was expected. And didn’t disagree. Though admittedly he’s a bit tired. 😉
    I can’t imagine having a job where you listen to the complaining of and endless stream of overconfident clueless harpies pursing self interest under cover over moral duty with emotional loading of conviction.
    So I wait until they’re about to leave and “Can I ask one more question? What’s the best and worst aspect of your job?” He lit up and said that the best part of my job is the 500,000 kids I have that I love and care for.” He said the exact number, but I didn’t write it down at the time. “The hardest part is that this is adiverse state and every [locality] is very different. So I worry about giving all these kids a choice of achieving the life they want. And our biggest problem is that everyone can’t and doesn’t want to got to college (and something about how the weren’t helping them).”
    Now, what I see is a good person, but one that is limited like everyone from producing excellence instead of pleasing students and parent’s fantasies. What I did hear later was the need to focus too much on their state of mind. What I didn’t get was any sense of the children developing responsibility and duty and putting in the work necessary to compete in the modern economy. An economy which he later stated, had a high cost of living vs the income of a lot of the student’s families.
    Unless we are more demanding, we are not going to produce a competent generation, and we will continue our demographic decline.

    Love you all.
    Cheers
    Curt

  • I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen t

    I’m sitting near the deputy secretary of education for a local state. I happen to know his wife (his third). She stepped out for a moment, and I started conversation by asking him if he was able to chat or preferred not to. And having overheard that he just flew in, and that he was downing scotch, listened to his itinerary – which gave no clue to his occupation but whatever it was he wasn’t proud of it. Men will tell you their biz if they are.
    Just then his wife returned, and I said that I was trying to pry conversation out of him. She replied that ‘He hates people’. 😉 She told me his occupation, and I started laughing and said “I’m so sorry for you.“ 😉 And he lowered his head accepting it as if it was expected. And didn’t disagree. Though admittedly he’s a bit tired. 😉
    I can’t imagine having a job where you listen to the complaining of and endless stream of overconfident clueless harpies pursing self interest under cover over moral duty with emotional loading of conviction.
    So I wait until they’re about to leave and “Can I ask one more question? What’s the best and worst aspect of your job?” He lit up and said that the best part of my job is the 500,000 kids I have that I love and care for.” He said the exact number, but I didn’t write it down at the time. “The hardest part is that this is adiverse state and every [locality] is very different. So I worry about giving all these kids a choice of achieving the life they want. And our biggest problem is that everyone can’t and doesn’t want to got to college (and something about how the weren’t helping them).”
    Now, what I see is a good person, but one that is limited like everyone from producing excellence instead of pleasing students and parent’s fantasies. What I did hear later was the need to focus too much on their state of mind. What I didn’t get was any sense of the children developing responsibility and duty and putting in the work necessary to compete in the modern economy. An economy which he later stated, had a high cost of living vs the income of a lot of the student’s families.
    Unless we are more demanding, we are not going to produce a competent generation, and we will continue our demographic decline.

    Love you all.
    Cheers
    Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 02:01:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703952186055573504

  • Law is a via-negativa. Even if it is sufficient for the organization of all scal

    Law is a via-negativa. Even if it is sufficient for the organization of all scale behavior, it is insufficient for the pedagogy of the intuition which requires the imitation(respect) > hero(socialization) > rule(knowledge) > out come (wisdom) hierarchy provided by religion, fairy tales and history and norms, expression of their meaning in rules and procedures, and knowledge of the outcomes of individual and group actions.

    To say we overvalue law is incorrect. We value it property. We undervalue physical fitness, mindfulness, etiquette (manners, ethics, morals), and basic necessary skills for self management in modernity such as banking, basic accounting, basic contract, working projects, negotiating for reciprocal ends, basic economics, and a non false understandg of government.

    Of these things the failure of the church to adapt to Darwin, the concurrent failure of the Romantic movement to restore classical aesthetics, the it’s rapid replacement of both by marxists and their pseudosciences ,and the overemphasis on economics as a means of political decidability, as substitute for for natural law politics, and moral behavior economics and Christian charity in society, and the family as the central purpose of all of the above, as the first system of production that preserves the rest.

    We don’t overvalue the law. It’s the only thing of value we have left. 😉

    Cheers
    Curt Doolittle

    Reply addressees: @TomKawczynski


    Source date (UTC): 2023-09-19 01:35:19 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703945835535319040

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703817874001850646