CURT AND MURRAY SELL ON CULTURAL DIFFERENCES —“The Chinese [primary method of decidability] is stability – [non-conflict]. Chinese history is tumultuous so everything must be done in the name of maintaining equilibrium and stability in the nation state(which is seen as a collective entity). The American [primary method of decidability] (until very recently) is reason – [negotiation]. Maintaining that people will ultimately do what’s right for themselves in the end and will act in their own self interests.
Theme: Decidability
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Cultural Differences
(CURT INTERJECTS: Chinese prevent conflict through denial, delay, and deceit. westerners attempt to expose conflicts and resolve them quickly. europeans regulate heavily to prevent legal conflicts later. Americans provide very precise legal rules so that limited regulation is necessary except in those cases where the exceptions have failed. These are three methods of insurance against conflict. The Chinese delay and deceive and deny until ‘matters solve themselves’. The continental method of regulate in order to limit conflicts. And the anglo method: provide clear rule of law so that those conflicts that do arise are decidable.) It’s probably why our greatest weapon has been unleashing chaos into societies (weaponized culture)in order to drive events in a way that serve America’s greater interests. (CURT INTERJECTS: Americans have followed the anglo enlightenment, peace of Westphalia(States are responsible for all agents within), and Postwar Consensus (human rights and fixed borders), that the world will remain peaceful through economic cooperation rather than territorial expansion. So americans seek to raise in to ‘adulthood’ every nation, so that it can participate in a meritocratic international market. This is ok, except that every nation may not have the human capital to compete successfully, and may try to circumvent that meritocratic competition by other means (islam).) I feel like this idea failed with the Middle Eastern destabilization program of the obama administration. The realization that people are literally wired differently from the western mind I feel is a revelatory moment of catharsis for western neoliberal thinkers. Universalism is a generic lazy way of seeing collective groups of people on earth. I have watched lectures on YouTube from the army war college stating that it doesn’t really matter if we technically “lose” wars with other nation states (fail to hold territory). As long as we utterly destroy your nation and knock it back a century in its progress we have technically won against our opponent because they can’t develop a civilization strong enough to challenge us on our own territory. The third world is aware of this and some folks theorize that we are in a multigenerational asymmetric conflict with the devolving world using our own principles and mass migration (another form of warfare) against us…”— Murray Sell (CURT INTERJECTS: agreed) -
Cultural Differences
CURT AND MURRAY SELL ON CULTURAL DIFFERENCES —“The Chinese [primary method of decidability] is stability – [non-conflict]. Chinese history is tumultuous so everything must be done in the name of maintaining equilibrium and stability in the nation state(which is seen as a collective entity). The American [primary method of decidability] (until very recently) is reason – [negotiation]. Maintaining that people will ultimately do what’s right for themselves in the end and will act in their own self interests.
(CURT INTERJECTS: Chinese prevent conflict through denial, delay, and deceit. westerners attempt to expose conflicts and resolve them quickly. europeans regulate heavily to prevent legal conflicts later. Americans provide very precise legal rules so that limited regulation is necessary except in those cases where the exceptions have failed. These are three methods of insurance against conflict. The Chinese delay and deceive and deny until ‘matters solve themselves’. The continental method of regulate in order to limit conflicts. And the anglo method: provide clear rule of law so that those conflicts that do arise are decidable.) It’s probably why our greatest weapon has been unleashing chaos into societies (weaponized culture)in order to drive events in a way that serve America’s greater interests. (CURT INTERJECTS: Americans have followed the anglo enlightenment, peace of Westphalia(States are responsible for all agents within), and Postwar Consensus (human rights and fixed borders), that the world will remain peaceful through economic cooperation rather than territorial expansion. So americans seek to raise in to ‘adulthood’ every nation, so that it can participate in a meritocratic international market. This is ok, except that every nation may not have the human capital to compete successfully, and may try to circumvent that meritocratic competition by other means (islam).) I feel like this idea failed with the Middle Eastern destabilization program of the obama administration. The realization that people are literally wired differently from the western mind I feel is a revelatory moment of catharsis for western neoliberal thinkers. Universalism is a generic lazy way of seeing collective groups of people on earth. I have watched lectures on YouTube from the army war college stating that it doesn’t really matter if we technically “lose” wars with other nation states (fail to hold territory). As long as we utterly destroy your nation and knock it back a century in its progress we have technically won against our opponent because they can’t develop a civilization strong enough to challenge us on our own territory. The third world is aware of this and some folks theorize that we are in a multigenerational asymmetric conflict with the devolving world using our own principles and mass migration (another form of warfare) against us…”— Murray Sell (CURT INTERJECTS: agreed) -
JUDGEMENT:Any sufficiently decidable forecast of revenue is insufficient to dete
JUDGEMENT:Any sufficiently decidable forecast of revenue is insufficient to determine future revenues. #Apple just pulled a Microsoft”.4/10
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-24 21:52:42 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801906413568147456
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JUDGEMENT:Any sufficiently decidable forecast of revenue is insufficient to dete
JUDGEMENT:Any sufficiently decidable forecast of revenue is insufficient to determine future revenues. #Apple just pulled a Microsoft”.4/10
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-24 16:52:00 UTC
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WORKING ON DEFINING PHILOSOPHY I have been working on defining philosophy (becau
WORKING ON DEFINING PHILOSOPHY
I have been working on defining philosophy (because like truth, it wasn’t defined before).
And you know, there are a few ways to approach it: western philosophy (argumentative methodology) or philosophy in all cultures (multiple argumentative methodologies). And whether the philosophy is literary and imaginative (possibilities), escapist (most), a form of assistance(sinic), or problem solving (western).
And what constitutes truth in each methodology – which differs dramatically from civilization to civilization.
Now, I’m going to say that philosophy is to reason what apperception is to consciousness: the re-measuring of all related relations in response to the new measure provided by the new information. In other words: recursive recalculation in response to new measurements.
The difference being that while cognition and apperception are continuous autonomic processes, reason and philosophy are guided processes, in which we devote (concentrate) resources (mental) to achieve desired ends.
This is, I think, the correct description of the processes of reason and philosophy.
Reason measures. Philosophy seeks commensurability of new ideas to old Ideas and refactors old ideas recursively as a consequence.
At this point we should see the general union of neurology, computer science, and information: commensurability that makes judgment (comparison) possible.
Western philosophy differs in its analytic (deconflated) versus synthetic (conflated) method of reasoning.
The categories of philosophy form an expanding hierarchy:
– existence (actionability)
– epistemology (knowledge)
– truth (testimony)
– ethics and morality (cooperation in production )
– politics (cooperation in production of commons )
– group evolutionary strategy (competition against other groups)
– aesthetics (means of associating emotions with principles that advance all of the above)
And we make use of a hierarchy of argument types:
– reason
– rationalism (non-contradiction)
– logic (internal consistency)
– empiricism (external correspondence)
– operationalism (existential possibility)
– voluntarism (moral possibility)
And we make use of a hierarchy of measurements
– identity (category)
– counting (measurement)
– arithmetic (operations)
– mathematics (sets)
– geometry (space)
– calculus (change)
– post-euclidian calculus (logical rather than physical relations)
And we practice different fields:
– physical science(s)
– cooperative science(s)
– informational science(s)
– aesthetic science(s).
(and we conflate these fields as needed to produce goods, services, and information)
And we conduct these arguments using different languages and methods appropriate to each of the classes. And each language places greater demand on the individual’s ability to reason.
So my view of philosophy proper is an analytic deconflated process by which we recursively render commensurable the full range of stimuli from the most primitive to the most complex.
Everything else I would tend to describe as moral literature, or literary law.
I don’t see philosophy proper anywhere other than in the west and a touch of it in the east.
What I see is analogies to philosophy proper, that we have no names for, but can be decomposed into the forms of conflation that they use, across fields, measurements, and argument types.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-20 13:40:00 UTC
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CURT AND MURRAY SELL ON CULTURAL DIFFERENCES —“The Chinese [primary method of
CURT AND MURRAY SELL ON CULTURAL DIFFERENCES
—“The Chinese [primary method of decidability] is stability – [non-conflict]. Chinese history is tumultuous so everything must be done in the name of maintaining equilibrium and stability in the nation state(which is seen as a collective entity).
The American [primary method of decidability] (until very recently) is reason – [negotiation]. Maintaining that people will ultimately do what’s right for themselves in the end and will act in their own self interests.
(CURT INTERJECTS: Chinese prevent conflict through denial, delay, and deceit. westerners attempt to expose conflicts and resolve them quickly. europeans regulate heavily to prevent legal conflicts later. Americans provide very precise legal rules so that limited regulation is necessary except in those cases where the exceptions have failed. These are three methods of insurance against conflict. The Chinese delay and deceive and deny until ‘matters solve themselves’. The continental method of regulate in order to limit conflicts. And the anglo method: provide clear rule of law so that those conflicts that do arise are decidable.)
It’s probably why our greatest weapon has been unleashing chaos into societies (weaponized culture)in order to drive events in a way that serve America’s greater interests.
(CURT INTERJECTS: Americans have followed the anglo enlightenment, peace of Westphalia(States are responsible for all agents within), and Postwar Consensus (human rights and fixed borders), that the world will remain peaceful through economic cooperation rather than territorial expansion. So americans seek to raise in to ‘adulthood’ every nation, so that it can participate in a meritocratic international market. This is ok, except that every nation may not have the human capital to compete successfully, and may try to circumvent that meritocratic competition by other means (islam).)
I feel like this idea failed with the Middle Eastern destabilization program of the obama administration. The realization that people are literally wired differently from the western mind I feel is a revelatory moment of catharsis for western neoliberal thinkers. Universalism is a generic lazy way of seeing collective groups of people on earth. I have watched lectures on YouTube from the army war college stating that it doesn’t really matter if we technically “lose” wars with other nation states (fail to hold territory). As long as we utterly destroy your nation and knock it back a century in its progress we have technically won against our opponent because they can’t develop a civilization strong enough to challenge us on our own territory. The third world is aware of this and some folks theorize that we are in a multigenerational asymmetric conflict with the devolving world using our own principles and mass migration (another form of warfare) against us…”— Murray Sell
(CURT INTERJECTS: agreed)
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-20 13:22:00 UTC
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European Paganism Consists of Different Forms Of Reasoning PRECISE CASES (Decidi
European Paganism Consists of Different Forms Of Reasoning
PRECISE CASES (Deciding Class)
Science
Law`
Biography
GENERAL RULES (Organizing Classes)
History
Literature
Philosophy
BROAD ANALOGIES (Working Classes)
Religion
Myth
Superstition
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-18 15:28:00 UTC
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Some arguments ask if statements are ‘possible’ or ‘impossible’. Some arguments
Some arguments ask if statements are ‘possible’ or ‘impossible’.
Some arguments ask if statements are ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
Some arguments ask if statements are true or false.
Some arguments ask if statements are gains or losses.
Some arguments ask if statements are exchanges or transfers
Some arguments ask if statements are investments or frauds
Some arguments ask if statements are any of the above.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-18 08:01:00 UTC
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Many methods of decidability are useful. The question is whether or not they are
Many methods of decidability are useful. The question is whether or not they are useful for self-and-other deception.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-18 07:50:00 UTC
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I do not mention natural rights.I refer to NATURAL LAW.And to a very precise, pe
I do not mention natural rights.I refer to NATURAL LAW.And to a very precise, perfectly decidable definition of Natural Law.
Source date (UTC): 2016-11-17 18:33:55 UTC
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/799319673913352197
Reply addressees: @BulgakovsPilot
Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/799319121326325760
IN REPLY TO:
@BulgakovsPilot
@curtdoolittle is the concept of natural rights even desirable?
Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/799319121326325760