Theme: Decidability

  • Corporatism as A Vehicle for Understanding All Political History

    Oct 15, 2019, 9:43 AM I want to disambiguate corporatism into a spectrum so that the criticisms are decidable by definition rather than by free-association. In other words, corporatism vs what?

    1. Corporatism. Bottom up: control of the state by economic common-interest groups vs Top down: the state’s organization of and control of the polity into economic common-interest groups.

    Corporatism arose from indo-european economic tripartism in the cooperative division of labor between military, administrative(educated), and laboring classes. The reason why it evolved in a militial order is obvious. The current “neo-corporatist” condition consists of negotiations between state(homogenous) labour (homogenous), and business (heterogeneous) to establish policy. This is the origin of social democracy. However, social democracy with forcible redistribution violates the ancestral paternalism, by putting control of common sproduction in the hands of the majority, and thereby taking away business’ necessity of care taking of labor as extension of family, and treating labor as resource rather than family members. (See pre-unification german industry, esp. Krupp). Heterogeneity of polity increases incentive to defect from this model, thereby producing the problems of the middle east and steppe, and the low trust of the far east (china) – all of which practice clan(kinship)-corporatism instead of economic interest corporatism. So I’ll cast social corporatism as rule of law, paternalism, and kinship, vs kinship by clan interests – vertical and hostile – rather than economic interests (esp class) – horizontal and interdependent. ie: economic produces economic trust, kinship produces clan trust. And the results are rather obvious. And so once again I’ll cast communism as monopoly underclass rule, libertarianism as monopoly middle class rule, and neoconservativsm as monopoly upper class rule, and cast tripartism as a division of labor between the classes for collective good. Socialism was a french invention largely a continuation of the extermination of the protestants (middle class) and the aristocracy (upper class). With new leadership merely rotating in to those positions and forcing out the economic middle that emerged in the anglo civilization (and which increased insecurity while increasing opportunity.) Fascism in Spain, Italy, and Germany was an attempt to Resist both communism (underclass monopoly) and french socialism (constraint of the middle class by the upper class for labor’s benefit), but not russian-jewish socialism (eradication of the middle class, and the upper class). And I’ll cast the term corporatism as an obscurant that relies upon suggestion by free association conveying no information other than “something bad”. So we have at least the pair of traditional axis: (a) rule for profit by individual or oligarchy(dictatorship, kinship, oligarchy), rule by collective classes(market), rule by monopoly classes (communism, russian-socialism, chinese socialism) and (b) clan corporatism (nationalism) vs economic corporatism (state), vs military corporatism (empire). So rule of law will result in market (economic corporatism) and nationalism (clan corporatism) or statism (state corporatism), with the possibility of paternalism (voluntary caretaking between the classes requiring nationalism. That is probably a distillation of everything meaningful that can be debated in the question of the organization of polities by criteria of decidability. And everything else is some form of bias coercion or deceit. I don’t think the above can be falsified. And it prevents our interpretation of history by eliminating contrary proposition (and definitions).

  • Corporatism as A Vehicle for Understanding All Political History

    Oct 15, 2019, 9:43 AM I want to disambiguate corporatism into a spectrum so that the criticisms are decidable by definition rather than by free-association. In other words, corporatism vs what?

    1. Corporatism. Bottom up: control of the state by economic common-interest groups vs Top down: the state’s organization of and control of the polity into economic common-interest groups.

    Corporatism arose from indo-european economic tripartism in the cooperative division of labor between military, administrative(educated), and laboring classes. The reason why it evolved in a militial order is obvious. The current “neo-corporatist” condition consists of negotiations between state(homogenous) labour (homogenous), and business (heterogeneous) to establish policy. This is the origin of social democracy. However, social democracy with forcible redistribution violates the ancestral paternalism, by putting control of common sproduction in the hands of the majority, and thereby taking away business’ necessity of care taking of labor as extension of family, and treating labor as resource rather than family members. (See pre-unification german industry, esp. Krupp). Heterogeneity of polity increases incentive to defect from this model, thereby producing the problems of the middle east and steppe, and the low trust of the far east (china) – all of which practice clan(kinship)-corporatism instead of economic interest corporatism. So I’ll cast social corporatism as rule of law, paternalism, and kinship, vs kinship by clan interests – vertical and hostile – rather than economic interests (esp class) – horizontal and interdependent. ie: economic produces economic trust, kinship produces clan trust. And the results are rather obvious. And so once again I’ll cast communism as monopoly underclass rule, libertarianism as monopoly middle class rule, and neoconservativsm as monopoly upper class rule, and cast tripartism as a division of labor between the classes for collective good. Socialism was a french invention largely a continuation of the extermination of the protestants (middle class) and the aristocracy (upper class). With new leadership merely rotating in to those positions and forcing out the economic middle that emerged in the anglo civilization (and which increased insecurity while increasing opportunity.) Fascism in Spain, Italy, and Germany was an attempt to Resist both communism (underclass monopoly) and french socialism (constraint of the middle class by the upper class for labor’s benefit), but not russian-jewish socialism (eradication of the middle class, and the upper class). And I’ll cast the term corporatism as an obscurant that relies upon suggestion by free association conveying no information other than “something bad”. So we have at least the pair of traditional axis: (a) rule for profit by individual or oligarchy(dictatorship, kinship, oligarchy), rule by collective classes(market), rule by monopoly classes (communism, russian-socialism, chinese socialism) and (b) clan corporatism (nationalism) vs economic corporatism (state), vs military corporatism (empire). So rule of law will result in market (economic corporatism) and nationalism (clan corporatism) or statism (state corporatism), with the possibility of paternalism (voluntary caretaking between the classes requiring nationalism. That is probably a distillation of everything meaningful that can be debated in the question of the organization of polities by criteria of decidability. And everything else is some form of bias coercion or deceit. I don’t think the above can be falsified. And it prevents our interpretation of history by eliminating contrary proposition (and definitions).

  • Oh… Wait. The natural law of truth, contract, reciprocity, warranty, and resti

    Oh… Wait. The natural law of truth, contract, reciprocity, warranty, and restitution is the only universal logic of decidability in matters of conflict that eliminates the incentive for retaliation cycles we call feuds, tribal, and city state warfare that have plagued man.


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 21:40:39 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267571790194319361

    Reply addressees: @JayMan471

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267571387671207936


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    @JayMan471 Oh… Wait. Law is the contract between men capable of sufficient violence to produce institutions that satisfy their mutual interests. It just so happens that law, liberty, markets, and the eugenics of markets is the cheapest way to obtain the highest returns.

    Original post: https://x.com/i/web/status/1267571387671207936

  • Oh… Wait. The natural law of truth, contract, reciprocity, warranty, and resti

    Oh… Wait. The natural law of truth, contract, reciprocity, warranty, and restitution is the only universal logic of decidability in matters of conflict that eliminates the incentive for retaliation cycles we call feuds, tribal, and city state warfare that have plagued man.

    Reply addressees: @JayMan471

  • “Robot Judges”

    “Robot Judges” https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/robot-judges/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 18:34:08 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267524849695670274

  • “Robot Judges”

    “Robot Judges” https://t.co/irmjYukHFB

  • “Robot Judges”

    (from elsewhere) I have worked on automating legal argument since we wrote ipx drivers by hand, and was certainly one of the first people to do it for every federal court. I currently work on the strict construction of law from the test of reciprocity, and the tests of whether one is given truthful testimony. Most cases are settled before trial because they are decidable, and those that make it to trial not easily decided without subjective testing of incentives, and the vast majority of legal cases are decided by whether we subjectively test the believability of the individuals at hand – (and some by oversaturating the reason of the jury). If AI justice is at all possible we are very, very, very far from it. And even so, I don’t think we would permit it. We might permit a machine to produce information FOR a jury. But if we get to the point where we abandon the jury of our peers, it’s time to hoist the jolly roger so to speak.

  • “Robot Judges”

    (from elsewhere) I have worked on automating legal argument since we wrote ipx drivers by hand, and was certainly one of the first people to do it for every federal court. I currently work on the strict construction of law from the test of reciprocity, and the tests of whether one is given truthful testimony. Most cases are settled before trial because they are decidable, and those that make it to trial not easily decided without subjective testing of incentives, and the vast majority of legal cases are decided by whether we subjectively test the believability of the individuals at hand – (and some by oversaturating the reason of the jury). If AI justice is at all possible we are very, very, very far from it. And even so, I don’t think we would permit it. We might permit a machine to produce information FOR a jury. But if we get to the point where we abandon the jury of our peers, it’s time to hoist the jolly roger so to speak.

  • It Matters: Disambiguation, Serialization, Operationalization

    It Matters: Disambiguation, Serialization, Operationalization https://propertarianism.com/2020/06/01/it-matters-disambiguation-serialization-operationalization/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-06-01 14:57:48 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1267470408447475714

  • It Matters: Disambiguation, Serialization, Operationalization

    It Matters: Disambiguation, Serialization, Operationalization https://t.co/BkmAlKOcn0