Theme: Cooperation

  • SEVEN PREMISES CONTRARY TO HOPPE’S ARGUMENTATION ETHICS (important) People negot

    SEVEN PREMISES CONTRARY TO HOPPE’S ARGUMENTATION ETHICS

    (important)

    People negotiate. They argue only to negotiate. They argue truthfully only as a special case of arguing within negotiation. People do not pursue the thruth – the pursue their intersts, and pursue the truth only when it advances their interests. If people were not negotiating, they would have no reason to argue.

    Like much of Hoppe and Rothbard’s work, Hoppe engages in cherry picking(confirmation bias) for the purpose of misdirection(suggestion) to create a straw man (distraction), then uses overloading(extraordinary detail), to force the audience into reliance on introspection(abandoning reason) rather than relying upon praxeological enumeration of cases that fully account for the range of possible human actions and incentives.

    In the arts, we call this effect of this overloading ‘the suspension of disbelief’ – a positive technique. But the negative use of the technique for persuasive purposes we call ‘overloading’ – causing the abandonment of criticism by exceeding our ability to judge without relying upon.

    Here is the correction of Hoppe’s error:

    Premise 0.1 – Man is a rational actor, he chooses boycott, avoidance, negotiation, exchange, parasitism, theft, violence, and warfare as suits his interests. Thankfully, the benefits of cooperation outweigh the benefits of conflict in the majority of cases.

    Premise 0.2 – When negotiating, humans speak in avoidance, deception, signaling, negotiation, honesty, and truth-attempts, as suits their rational interest.

    Premise 0.3 – The majority of human speech consists of either avoidance, deception, signaling, or negotiation.

    Premise 0.4 – One of the tools humans can use in avoidance, deception, signaling, or negotiation is truth-attempts – if possessed of sufficient education, experience, and skill, one or more of the various degrees of argumentation: analogistic (religious, moral, historical), rational(reasonable, rational, logical), empirical (recorded, scientific, economic), or existential(operational + empirical + logical + fully accounted), depending upon his level of understanding.

    Premise 0.5 – Almost no human argument consists of truth claims, but instead consists of negotiating statements constructed from error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, overloading, and deceit. When truth-attempts are useful in the negotiation, then man will employ them. However, truth-attempts are a complex conceptual technology, and each of the technologies of argument: analogistic, rational, empirical, and existential – can be used even more easily for deception than they can for truth-discovery. To test against deception, each truth-technology requires testing by the next degree of truth technology – because greater precision and knowledge are required for each degree.

    Premise 0.6 – When humans resolve differences, we can resolve them according to who is the strongest, or by authoritarian command, or by tradition and norm, or by evolved rule, or by some logical or scientific process. The greater the degree of rule of law, the closer to logical and scientific process is necessary. The further from rule of law the more arbitrary discretion is necessary.

    Premise 0.7 – Man has evolved the vast corpus of legal doctrines, headmen, judges, governments and states as insurers of those legal doctrines, all of which are enforced by violence, precisely because man rarely if ever pursues truth instead of interest, and he does so only under constant threat of violence and constant competition from those with opposing interests. The only condition we find truth is even vaguely pursued is when property is external to the argument, and signaling for having the best argument most correspondent with reality, is the only reward.

    SUMMARY:

    Empirically speaking, in all civilizations, in all walks of life, humans almost never pursue the truth. Instead, they pursue their interests, and they resort to the high cost of truth only if (a) it is in their interest, and (b) they possess the skill to do so, and (c) under threat of ostracization, punishment, or death if they fail to.

    COMFORTING LIES THAT APPEAL TO COGNITIVE BIASES

    Left feminine, Libertine Adolescent, Right Masculine biases reflect each of our evolutionary strategies given our reproductive desirability and our social class. Each of the cosmopolitan lies was constructed to appeal to the cognitive baises: left-feminine, libertarian-adolescent, and conservative-masculine through the exact same application of that process that was used to spread the lie of scriptural monotheism: Verbal overloading of a suggestion, that appeals to a cognitive bias, overwhelming the available truth-testing technology.

    THE SOURCE OF LIBERTY.

    There is only one source of liberty: the universal, organized application of violence to force universal sovereignty. where under universal sovereignty there is no other method of cooperation than natural, judge-discovered, common, law providing a market for dispute resolution; the market for reproduction that we call marriage and family, the market for goods, services AND information, and the market for commons we call anglo-multi-house-government, and the market for polities we call small regional nation states. Because only markets tolerate sovereignty. All else is discretion, and discretion is the opposite of sovereignty.

    — Hoppe’s Premises —

    “- Premise 1: All truth-claims – all claims that a given proposition is true, false, indeterminate or un-decidable or that an argument is valid and complete or not – are raised, justified and decided upon in the course of an argumentation.

    – Premise 2: The truth of this proposition cannot be disputed without falling into contradiction, as any attempt to do so would itself have to come in the form of an argument. Hence, the “Apriori” of argumentation.

    – Premise 3: Argumentation is not free-floating sounds but a human action, i.e., a purposeful human activity employing physical means – a person’s body and various external things – in order to reach a specific end or goal: the attainment of agreement concerning the truth-value of a given proposition or argument.

    – Premise 4: While motivated by some initial disagreement, dispute or conflict concerning the validity of some truth-claim, every argumentation between a proponent and an opponent is itself a conflict-free – mutually agreed on, peaceful – form of interaction aimed at resolving the initial disagreement and reaching some mutually agreed-on answer as to the truth-value of a given proposition or argument.

    – Premise 5: The truth or validity of the norms or rules of action that make argumentation between a proponent and an opponent at all possible – the praxeological presuppositions of argumentation – cannot be argumentatively disputed without falling into a pragmatic or performative contradiction.

    – Premise 6: The praxeological presuppositions of argumentation, then, i.e., what makes argumentation as a specific form of truth-seeking activity possible, are twofold: a) each person must be entitled to exclusive control or ownership of his physical body (the very mean that he and only he can control directly, at will) so as to be able to act independently of one another and come to a conclusion on his own, i.e., autonomously; and b), for the same reason of mutually independent standing and autonomy, both proponent and opponent must be entitled to their respective prior possessions, i.e., the exclusive control of all other, external means of action appropriated indirectly by them prior to and independent of one another and prior to the on-set of their argumentation.

    Conclusion: Any argument to the contrary: that either the proponent or the opponent is not entitled to the exclusive ownership of his body and all prior possessions cannot be defended without falling into a pragmatic or performative contradiction. For by engaging in argumentation, both proponent and opponent demonstrate that they seek a peaceful, conflict-free resolution to whatever disagreement gave rise to their arguments. Yet to deny one person the right to self-ownership and prior possessions is to deny his autonomy and his autonomous standing in a trial of arguments. It affirms instead dependency and conflict, i.e., heteronomy, rather than conflict-free and autonomously reached agreement and is thus contrary to the very purpose of argumentation.”

    — Doolittle’s Criticisms —

    Hoppe’s thesis: Since I do not physically aggress against your body and your property while in engaging in ‘argument'(negotiation), then I demonstrate when in argument(negotiation), that non-aggression against life and property is required for cooperation – which I can restate as the criteria for ethical action.

    ISSUES

    If I am trying to deceive you, and I make no claim that what I say is true, then how can I engage in a performative contradiction?

    The only conditions under which performative contradiction matters is justification in court.

    If people seek to justify their wants(negotiate) in trade, not seek to speak truthfully(conduct scientific investigation), then they are rarely if ever engaged in argument(truth), and almost always enagaged in negotiation (not-truth)

    People engage in this spectrum actions:

    Avoidance, Violence, Threat, Deception, Negotiation, Argument, Insurance(gifts etc), Sacrifice (kin selection),

    People engage in i) argument over ‘goods'(common property), they ii) engage in negotiation of exchanges(several property), they engage in iii) threats to force transfers(possessions). But violence and deception are part of the argument, exchange or transfer, as much or more so than is any degree of truth.

    Only when they argue over commons (goods) within an existing contract for cooperation(ethics), do they make truth claims. In negotiation they engage in deceptions, and by threats they deny property exists, only that possessions exist.

    “…just talking, without any consequence of talking…”–hoppe

    He conflates purposeless speech with deceptive speech. This is a straw man argument since we do not claim to make truth claims.

    “…to be TRUE only for the parties involved in the..” – hoppe

    Argument(negotiation) requires a truth claim, negotiation and threat do not require truth claims – they eschew them. Continuing the straw man. We do not make truth claims.

    “….why should anyone pay attention to merely personal truths…”-hoppe

    (a) no one is claiming truth, (b) under threat of loss of possessions you possess the need to pay attention, unless the threat is inconsequential. Continuing the straw man.

    “…critics are engaging in a counter argument…”

    This is true. But then the critics (like me) are conduction an argument (truth inquiry), not a negotiation or a threat. That says only that we are seeking truth (attempting to produce a commons we refer to as the general rule of ethical action- the terms of the contract for cooperation).

    “…they engage in a performative contradiction…they say what they claim about argumentation is true…”

    Continuing the straw man. They make no truth claim. In fact they (we, I) deny that people engage in argument, and instead engage in threat(command), and negotiation(deception), and that only in rare cases do they engage in argument (truth claims).

    “….it is true for everyone capable of argumentation…”

    Except that we are not making the claim that people are engaged in argument, but threat, deception, and justification.

    “…argument…to resolve a conflict between rival truth claims…”

    Except that we are not enaging in arguments, or making truth claims when threatening or negotiating or justifying. We are merely seeking information that we can exploit through violence, payment, or persuasion (threat).

    “…argumentation implies one should accept the consequences of the outcome, otherwise why argue?…”

    We aren’t arguing. We’re negotiating.

    “…it would be contradictory for a judge in a trial to say…”

    Well this is the point. Argumentation ethics applies only in court where we justify our actions by correspondence with law. It says nothing about the origin and limits of the conditions from which we must deduce basic rules of cooperation (ethics).

    ARGUMENT IS A SPECIAL CASE OF COOPERATION NOT A GENERAL RULE

    Hoppe’s argument is a case of special pleading proposed as a general rule. it is just that this case of special pleading overloads the cogntivive biases of those people who self select for libertarianism.

    How could we test these hypotheses? Empirically. And without much effort I am more than confident that finding cases of argument by truth not under the threat of violence when property is in play, will be statistically irrelevant.

    Curt Doolittle

    The Propertarian Institute

    Kiev, Ukraine


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-13 13:00:00 UTC

  • Women lie to each other to bond. Men trash talk. Both are demonstrations of loya

    Women lie to each other to bond. Men trash talk.

    Both are demonstrations of loyalty.

    All communication consists of signaling, negotiation, and deception. With scarce facts serving as only minor currency.

    Truth and science are alien to man.

    That is why we must work so hard at them.

    We evolved to negotiate not to testify.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-12 14:03:00 UTC

  • THE CORRUPTION OF OUR SACRED LAW BY THE STATE There exists only one social scien

    THE CORRUPTION OF OUR SACRED LAW BY THE STATE

    There exists only one social science: Natural Law: the Law(Theoretic) of cooperation, expressible as a Logic of Physical Law, a Logic of evolutionary pressures, a Logic of construction by voluntary action, and evidence of empirical observations that are the result of physical Laws, evolutionary pressures, voluntary actions, and networks of voluntary actions.

    There is no reason that we do not teach natural law as part of the Sequence:

    – Grammar, Logic, Natural Law, Rhetoric.

    But we cannot study the Law today because it contains a conflation of traditions, legislations, regulations, and ‘excuses’.

    We COULD study Natural Law, then study Contracts Between the Classes (Legislation), and study Regulation (Insurance Codes), and if necessary Emergency Commands (Time of War).

    And if we taught the law by this un-conflated method, law would be a much easier (and more assailable, and more honest) field of study.

    Statism was a violation of western civilization since it allowed the state to enact legislation that violate the Law proper (natural law).

    Universal Majoritarian Democracy was a violation of western civilization since it removed the use of houses as vehicles for the conduct of exchanges between the classes, which also must hold to natural law (law proper).

    The Corporate State and the Corporate Democatic Polity have been imposed as monopolies under which we no longer must conduct trades by natural law in every walk of life and instead conduct conflict and winner-takes-all.

    SEQUENCE

    – Universal Opportunity

    – Personal Possession

    – Interpersonal Consent

    – Social Norm or Custom

    – Institutional Legislation(contract), Policy, and Regulation(Command)

    – Natural Law (science of cooperation)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-10 10:40:00 UTC

  • UM. THE NATURAL STATE OF MAN IS JUST ‘RATIONAL’ —“The natural state of man is

    UM. THE NATURAL STATE OF MAN IS JUST ‘RATIONAL’

    —“The natural state of man is not one of war, but rather of mutual interdependence.”—

    Nice assertion but is it true? Or is it wishful thinking?

    Why is it that over the long run 2% average is the rate of death by violence? And in many societies it approaches 40% death by violence?

    The natural state of man is RATIONAL.

    He chooses cheating, parasitism, predation, boycott, avoidance, vacillating cooperation/competition/war, serial cooperation, sustained cooperation, and kin-cooperation as is rational.

    The reason we require so many institutions is to limit his choices to the productive and voluntary, despite the utility of violence, theft, fraud, conspiracy, and conquest.

    Man is a rational actor. He is moral when it suits him and immoral when it suits him. And that is all we can say.

    One of the great benefits of modernity is that wealth is not portable and several, but consists largely of recorded interests in some degree of commons, diminishing the utility of violence and theft.

    The strong prey, the strong-enough trade, and the weak gossip, rally, and shame.

    Politics is just an organization for the production and defense of commons.


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-10 09:13:00 UTC

  • NATURAL LAW – Necessary Law – Necessary for Voluntary Cooperation. Laws are all

    – NATURAL LAW – Necessary Law – Necessary for Voluntary Cooperation. Laws are all Negative (Shall not)

    There is but one natural law: impose no cost upon that which others have born a cost to obtain an interest in, without having imposed a cost upon others.

    – NATURAL RIGHTS – Desirable Normative and Institutional Rights – Application of Natural Law to Circumstances and Cases. Rights are Positive assertions of negative prohibitions.

    There is but one natural right – the positive assertion of natural law: I have a right to retaliate against an imposition of costs against that which I have obtained an interest in, without having imposed a cost upon that which others have born costs to obtain an interest in.

    When we articulate natural rights we merely clarify this right in its application to a multitude of cases such that we do not require individuals to reason through these cases by themselves, nor do we allow those who engage in error, bias, wishful thinking, suggestion, overloading, and deceit, to engage in falsehoods, or the abuse of consent, norm, or institutions by means of falsehood.

    – FALSE (PRETENSE) RIGHTS (FRAUDS) – demands for rights not application of natural law (positive rights)) – Attempts to use lack of clarity in Natural Law to portray a desire as necessary. Pretense Rights are positive assertions of a falsehood (lie). Pretense rights almost always seek to justify parasitism: the imposition of costs upon others through involuntary, or unproductive, or uninformed, or unwarrantied, transfer, either directly or indirectly (via externality)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-10 08:21:00 UTC

  • MORE AGAINST ARGUMENTATION ETHICS —“You don’t seem to really address Hoppe’s a

    MORE AGAINST ARGUMENTATION ETHICS

    —“You don’t seem to really address Hoppe’s argument at all. Hoppe does not argue that individuals don’t have the choice between cooperation, non-cooperation, and violence. Of course those are options.The point is that, in order to achieve a CONFLICT FREE dispute resolution, two parties must engage in argumentation. There’s no other way to go about justifying an ownership claim.”—Will Porter

    HOPPE’S ARGUMENT

    Hoppe is saying that the fact that when we argue truthfully in the pursuit of truth, that we abandon the techniques of (a) violence/avoidance (b) bribery/deprivation (c) ostracization/inclusion, and (d) fraud.

    Most of Hoppe’s arguments are straw men. Lets look at this one: the conflation of epistemology and ethics.

    SPECIAL CASE NOT GENERAL RULE

    Like prime numbers, those conditions under which we eschew violence, eschew bribery, eschew otracization, and eschew fraud are limited to courts, in a small number of western nations whose judicial systems have evolved an allocation of property, to the individual, under the group evolutionary strategy of sovereignty.

    In other words, we can only identify TRUTH in the absence of coercion by violence, fraud, bribery, and ostracization. This tells us NOTHING AT ALL about the scope of property. And it is the SCOPE of property that is the question. We could make the same claim and never, ever, discuss property. In fact, it would be much easier to conduct truthful speech WITHOUT the existence of property. Or stated differently, Hoppe is attributing to ethics that which is a property of epistemology.

    WHAT ABOUT ETHICS?

    So what does this tell us about ethics? (Cooperation for the purpose of survival, production, reproduction, and production of commons.) It tells us nothing.

    So what scope of property can we defend truthfully? (Any). What and what does this tell us is the scope of property for one purpose or another? (Nothing)

    Could we say that via analogy, the criteria for non-coercion in the pursuit of truth, was the same as the criteira for ethical cooperation? Well, why could we say that? Why wouldn’t the criteria for cooperation (ethics) be different from that of argumentation in the pursuit of truth, when the cost of speaking is near zero and the cost of finding, converting, obtaining, and defending property can approach the infinite? (It isn’t the same).

    When people are in court, in disputes over property do they in fact tell the truth? Or do they struggle not to tell the truth, and use all forms of coercion readily? In other words does the evidence say that people seek the truth, or that people seek to deceive, while the prosecutor and judge (insurers) seek the truth in order to resolve the dispute by decidable means?

    But even then, what does this tell us about the scope of property, or ethics of cooperation? (nothing).

    So isn’t the pursuit of truth a special case instead of a general rule? Isn’t the attempt to cast a special case as a general rule either a deception, justification, or an error – or all three? (It’s all three at worst, the last two on average).

    ( Imagine a cell block of slaves lacking property, or freedom of movement. They have greater incentive to speak truthfully than do merchants and customers in a market.)

    The depth of this criticism might not be apparent at first.

    LETS START OVER

    Now lets take this bit of insight:

    —“There’s no other way to go about justifying an ownership claim.”—

    We would have to (a) first determine the criteria for ‘ownership’, (which is itself a justification, not a truth.) and (b) who are we justifying this to? and (c) what can they do about it?

    (Just a nit here so that we can come back to it.

    – Justification: that we find an excuse.

    – Criticism: that we survive all criticisms.)

    Now let’s look at this question operationally (praxeologically), and not via justification (excuse-making).

    1 – Possession is determined by Violence and Deception.

    2 – Property is determined by Exchange: reciprocal consent (normative contract)

    3 – Property rights are determined by an insurer: Payment. (enforcible contract)

    But this doesn’t tell us anything about what people defend or engage violence, theft, fraud, conspiracy, and Conquest to obtain.

    How do we determine that which is ethical(how we should act) in the spectrum of Possession, Normative Property, and ‘Legal’ Property Rights?

    Well, we can try to ask ourselves introspectively (what would we defend) and we can try to observe (empirically) what others defend and retaliate against. And we can look to the common law, or laws in all groups, and try to deduce what they share in common.

    And if we do that we find the following:

    1) that laws evolved to prevent retaliation cycles. (feuds).

    2) that laws evolved a scope of property, and a standard of restitution or punishment, and a standard or method of judgment.

    3) That the scope of property evolves in tandem with the division of labor and the atomicity of the family and its inheritance.

    4) That sovereignty (individual property rights) are achieved only under rare conditions, unique to the west, for historical reasons. But until very recently, the individual and family were inseparable (the family insured the individual).

    Well, this doesn’t tell us much, other than that as the division of labor and knowledge increases so does the atomicity of property that insurers adjudicate.

    So can we dig deeper and determine what causes retaliation? And by inversion, what determines ethical behavior (that which does not cause retaliation). Yes we can.

    i) Productive

    ii) Fully Informed

    iii) Warrantied

    iiii) Voluntary Transfer

    Limited to externalities that are productive even if not fully informed or voluntary.

    But what scope of actions do people not retaliate against the uproductive, uninformed, unwarrantied, involuntary, and externalized imposition of costs?

    1-People: Body, Mates, Kin, Kith, Partners(Allies), Associates, Customers, Potential Customers (market)

    2-Things: Property, Shares, Commons, Monuments, Territory.

    3-Institutions: Institutions and organizations

    4-Information: Myths, Traditions, Norms, Knowledge, Information

    But under what criteria can I create or obtain, or obtain an interest in something (relations, things, institutions, and information)?

    Well, I can do that only if I fail to impose costs upon the same of others:

    1-…Homesteading (discovery and transformation),

    2-… … Exchange, and

    3-… … … Conversion of transformed and exchanged.

    But don’t we also exhibit variation from group to group, and between groups? Yes, of course, groups construct normative ethics INTRA-GROUP (ingroup), but that does not stop us from discovering universal ethics INTER-GROUP(outgroup).

    We avoid disputes and consequent retaliation cycles by eliminating all incentives for retaliation.

    HOPPE’S ARGUMENT

    Hoppe’s argument (and rothbards) fails the following tests:

    1 – Truthful argument is the result of the use of violence to require productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfer limited to productive externalities. It is consequence not cause.

    2 – Hoppe’s argument will not require productive, nor will rothbard’s argument require fully informed, and neither requires warranty as a defense against false-ethical pretenses. Rothbard in particular eschews all externalities.

    3 – The pursuit of truth is different from fully informed. Bribery, Ostracization are almost always part and parcel of voluntary transfers since the transfer is itself a bribe.

    4 – Any anarchic polity must suppress the willingness to retaliate or the forms of agreement one can enter into, or there will remain demand for the state (authority) as an arbitrary substitution for law that permits adjudication in the absence of discretion.

    5 – Hoppe claims intersubjectively verifiable property but this is insufficient for the formation of a voluntary polity that can survive competition from other polities.

    ETHICS VS EPISTEMOLOGY

    Ethics and Epistemology are two different disciplines for two different purposes, if for no other reason than the difference in costs. (hence cheap rationalism and religion and expensive science and commerce).

    An attempt to use Argumentation as the epistemic means of discovering ethics is a logical error. And it obscures the demonstrated scope of property.

    In my opinion rothbard created a fallacy and hoppe as his devoted student sough to further JUSTIFY rothbard’s fallacy, rather than seek the scope property necessary for the production of a voluntary polity without demand for the state as a discretionary decider of last resort.

    SUMMARY

    Do nothing unto others that which one would not have done unto you. Do unto others only that which you would have done unto you.

    Reciprocal non-imposition of costs against demonstrated scope of property. That’s ethics. The test of non-retaliation.

    —SUPPORTING TABLES—

    SCOPE OF TOLERANCE FOR COMPETITION

    People demonstrably tolerate competition to various degrees in:

    1 – Market for production (seizure of opportunities for consumption)

    2 – Market for reproduction (seizure of opportunities for mating)

    3 – Market for commons (seizure of opportunities for multipliers)

    4 – Market for dispute resolution/law (retention of investments)

    5 – Market for leadership/polity (choice of opportunity set)

    6 – Market for Norms (limit transaction cost while leaving open seizure of new opportunities.)

    7 – Market for Information (dependence upon information for decision making while leaving open possibility of new opportunities.)

    SCOPE OF PROPERTY NECESSARY FOR STATELESS LIBERTY

    Why does this scope of property matter?

    1 – Because the scope of property over which disputes can be resolved peacefully in court, must be sufficient to eliminate demand for the state to impose legislation, regulation, and command.

    2 – We do not choose the scope of property that suppresses demand for the state, any more than we choose the scope of property that people will retaliate for the imposition of costs against.

    CHOICES AT ALL TIMES BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS

    Individuals always possess these choices

    1 Avoidance

    …. 2 Violence

    …. …. 3 Fraud

    …. …. …. 4 Negotiation

    …. …. …. …. 5 Preservation

    …. …. …. …. …. 6 Defection

    Without a third party insurer, all choices remain active at all times. Insurance by third parties (organizations, polities, courts) limits us to Avoidance, Negotiation, and Preservation.

    CHOICES UNDER RECIPROCAL INSURANCE (LAW)

    1 Avoidance,

    … 2 Negotiation, and

    … … 3 Preservation.

    DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ARISTOCRATIC AND GHETTO ETHICS

    What is the difference between low trust ghetto ethics and high trust aristocratic ethics?

    1 – NON- AGGRESSION, (justificationary) intentional, against intersubjectively verifiable property (physical property) producing low trust ghetto ethics with high demand for authority (the state).

    2 – NON-IMPOSITION: retaliation(empirical) for intentional or unintentional imposition of costs against property in toto (demonstrated property) producing high trust aristocratic ethics with low demand for authority (the state).

    THE SPECTRUM OF CONFLICT AND COOPERATION

    There are only three methods of coercion:

    … 0 Avoidance……. 1 Violence ……. 2 Remuneration ……. 3 Morality

    And a timeline of the benefits of conflict and cooperation:

    …………………..Short <—> Medium <—–> Long <——- > Longer

    The Phase of Cooperation:

    Avoidance <->Conflict<->Negotiation<->Cooperation <-> Commons

    The Tactics

    Movement <->Fighting<->Deception<->Defection <-> Externalities

    The Defenses

    …………………Military <-> Negotiating <-> Truth <-> Morality

    …………………Militia ………Contract…………Court ……. Insurer

    NOTES:

    If I am trying to deceive you, and I make no claim that what I say is true, then how can I engage in a performative contradiction?

    The only conditions under which performative contradiction matters is justification in court.

    If people seek to justify their wants(negotiate) in trade, not seek to speak truthfully(conduct scientific investigation), then they are rarely if ever engaged in argument(truth), and almost always enagaged in negotiation (not-truth)

    People engage in this spectrum actions:

    Avoidance, Violence, Threat, Deception, Negotiation, Argument, Insurance(gifts etc), Sacrifice (kin selection),

    People engage in i) argument over ‘goods'(common property), they ii) engage in negotiation of exchanges(several property), they engage in iii) threats to force transfers(possessions). But violence and deception are part of the argument, exchange or transfer, as much or more so than is any degree of truth.

    Only when they argue over commons (goods) within an existing contract for cooperation(ethics), do they make truth claims. In negotiation they engage in deceptions, and by threats they deny property exists, only that possessions exist.

    “…just talking, without any consequence of talking…”–hoppe

    He conflates purposeless speech with deceptive speech. This is a straw man argument since we do not claim to make truth claims.

    “…to be TRUE only for the parties involved in the..” – hoppe

    Argument(negotiation) requires a truth claim, negotiation and threat do not require truth claims – they eschew them. Continuing the straw man. We do not make truth claims.

    “….why should anyone pay attention to merely personal truths…”-hoppe

    (a) no one is claiming truth, (b) under threat of loss of possessions you possess the need to pay attention, unless the threat is inconsequential. Continuing the straw man.

    “…critics are engaging in a counter argument…”

    This is true. But then the critics (like me) are conduction an argument (truth inquiry), not a negotiation or a threat. That says only that we are seeking truth (attempting to produce a commons we refer to as the general rule of ethical action- the terms of the contract for cooperation). This says nothing about

    “…they engage in a performative contradiction…they say what they claim about argumentation is true…”

    Continuing the straw man. They make no truth claim. In fact they (we, I) deny that people engage in argument, and instead engage in threat(command), and negotiation(deception), and that only in rare cases do they engage in argument (truth claims).

    “….it is true for everyone capable of argumentation…”

    Except that we are not making the claim that people are engaged in argument, but threat, deception, and justification.

    “…argument…to resolve a conflict between rival truth claims…”

    Except that we are not enaging in arguments, or making truth claims when threatening or negotiating or justifying. We are merely seeking information that we can exploit through violence, payment, or persuasion (threat).

    “…argumentation implies one should accept the consequences of the outcome, otherwise why argue?…”

    We aren’t arguing. We’re negotiating.

    “…it would be contradictory for a judge in a trial to say…”

    Well this is the point. Argumentation ethics applies only in court where we justify our actions by correspondence with law. It says nothing about the origin and limits of the conditions from which we must deduce basic rules of cooperation (ethics).

    (No point in continuing)


    Source date (UTC): 2016-10-09 21:45:00 UTC

  • Man Is Merely Rational

    Man is rational. He engages in predation when it suits him, parasitism when it is possible, cooperation when it is preferable, and flight when it is necessary. Thankfully, through organizing our efforts into myth, ritual, habit, norm, and law, we can raise the cost of predation and parasitism high enough so that man chooses cooperation or flight more often than parasitism or predation. Our deprivation of his opportunity for parasitism and predation do not change the nature of man – because man is rational. We simply eliminate those less able to cooperate and produce, and provide disincentives to those that remain, thereby creating an imbalance of incentives and proclivity for cooperation and production.

  • Man Is Merely Rational

    Man is rational. He engages in predation when it suits him, parasitism when it is possible, cooperation when it is preferable, and flight when it is necessary. Thankfully, through organizing our efforts into myth, ritual, habit, norm, and law, we can raise the cost of predation and parasitism high enough so that man chooses cooperation or flight more often than parasitism or predation. Our deprivation of his opportunity for parasitism and predation do not change the nature of man – because man is rational. We simply eliminate those less able to cooperate and produce, and provide disincentives to those that remain, thereby creating an imbalance of incentives and proclivity for cooperation and production.

  • No, Capitalism Isn’t Enough

    –“trust isn’t necessary just capitalism”— Diego Anonymous Diego,

    Let me correct you a bit – largely by providing you with more precise language. Capitalism – private production of goods and services by the universal distribution of private property rights – has always existed to some degree – it must for trade to exist. But, cooperation at *scale* using institutions, that creates what we call ‘consumer capitalism’ requires high trust society. Without high trust, states are necessary to organize sale and complex production, because of the risk required of all participants. States as the insurer of last resort, insure against ‘risk of defection’. This is why centrally managed economies can be used to transform states from a condition of backwardness, but cannot be used to maintain them once backwardness is reduced and society reordered, or to create persistently competitive states where self-ordering produces consistent market innovation. The only known way of producing high trust is evolution from common (negative) law, property rights for women, and the prohibition on inbreeding (cousin marriage). Common law insures against ‘risk of defection’. The only known way of producing common (negative) law is evolution from a militia (Anglo-Saxon model). The only known way of producing a professional bureaucracy is evolution from an army (french-german-prussian). (And this leads to napoleonic law of state vs people, not common natural-law of militias of universal equality) The only known way of producing a libertarian (anglo-saxon) political order is with militia and common law, combining to provide sufficient suppression of free riding such that commons can be produced without defection preserving competitiveness, and private goods can be produced competitively. One man may rule. An Oligarchy may rule. A professional bureaucracy may rule. Or all may rule – thereby ensuring that none rules. Rule of law (nomocracy); The civic production of commons (liberalism); The private production of goods and services (capitalism); And the condition under which we experience all three (liberty); Can each exist but they cannot exist without one another.
  • No, Capitalism Isn’t Enough

    –“trust isn’t necessary just capitalism”— Diego Anonymous Diego,

    Let me correct you a bit – largely by providing you with more precise language. Capitalism – private production of goods and services by the universal distribution of private property rights – has always existed to some degree – it must for trade to exist. But, cooperation at *scale* using institutions, that creates what we call ‘consumer capitalism’ requires high trust society. Without high trust, states are necessary to organize sale and complex production, because of the risk required of all participants. States as the insurer of last resort, insure against ‘risk of defection’. This is why centrally managed economies can be used to transform states from a condition of backwardness, but cannot be used to maintain them once backwardness is reduced and society reordered, or to create persistently competitive states where self-ordering produces consistent market innovation. The only known way of producing high trust is evolution from common (negative) law, property rights for women, and the prohibition on inbreeding (cousin marriage). Common law insures against ‘risk of defection’. The only known way of producing common (negative) law is evolution from a militia (Anglo-Saxon model). The only known way of producing a professional bureaucracy is evolution from an army (french-german-prussian). (And this leads to napoleonic law of state vs people, not common natural-law of militias of universal equality) The only known way of producing a libertarian (anglo-saxon) political order is with militia and common law, combining to provide sufficient suppression of free riding such that commons can be produced without defection preserving competitiveness, and private goods can be produced competitively. One man may rule. An Oligarchy may rule. A professional bureaucracy may rule. Or all may rule – thereby ensuring that none rules. Rule of law (nomocracy); The civic production of commons (liberalism); The private production of goods and services (capitalism); And the condition under which we experience all three (liberty); Can each exist but they cannot exist without one another.