THE BASIS OF COMMUNITY IS SELF INTEREST
The underlying basis of community is self interest, and the production of commons because commons provide returns for self interest. It is, as far as I know, not possible to contradict morality as stated in propertarianism (reciprocity) since it is both a logical necessity and empirically evident in all judicial proceedings known to man.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-17 13:00:00 UTC
RELIGION VS CULT
—“What is the difference between a cult & religion in practice?”—Zach Edward
First, religions and cults consist of a mythos and costly rituals that require demonstration of advocacy (not necessarily belief) in one or more falsehoods as a substitute for reason and a signal of contribution to the group’s informational and as a consequence, behavioral commons.
It’s that a religion is adopted at scale and has political influence, and a cult has a smaller scale and does not have political influence.
And because a cult differs from the mainstream, and requires higher costs of adherence, members of a cult are generally more devoted than those of a religion or major religion.
– Major Religion (influential in a civilization – many governments)
– Religion (Influential in a polity – government)
– Cult (not influential in a polity or government)
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-17 09:51:00 UTC
—“Dunbar’s Number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships—relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.”— Roman (Wall) 8 men x 10(80) x 6(480) x 10(4800) (legion) American (Packs) 10 x 4(40) x 4.x (175) x 4(700) (battalion) x 6.4(4500+) (Brigade)
—“Dunbar’s Number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships—relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.”— Roman (Wall) 8 men x 10(80) x 6(480) x 10(4800) (legion) American (Packs) 10 x 4(40) x 4.x (175) x 4(700) (battalion) x 6.4(4500+) (Brigade)
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
WHAT IS NATURAL LAW?
>A fully decidable (universal) Law of Ethics.
What do you mean by ethics?
>The law of cooperation and conflict resolution.
What is this law of cooperation and conflict resolution?
>Reciprocity.
WHAT IS RECIPROCITY?
In the Negative (Silver Rule, or via-negativa): The requirement to avoid the imposition of costs on that which others have born costs to obtain an interest in, without imposing costs upon that which others have likewise born costs to obtain an interest in.
In the Positive(Golden Rule, or via-positiva): the requirement that we limit our actions to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfers, free of the imposition of costs by externality, upon that which others have obtained by the same means.
As determined by the either any change, or the total change in the inventory that all parties both internal and external to the action have born costs to obtain an interest without imposition of costs upon others directly or indirectly by externality.
ââAll of ethics can be reduced to [is a subset/special application of] the degree of reciprocity & the accounting thereof.â James Augustus
WHY DOES RECIPROCITY SERVE AS NATURAL LAW?
Because it is apparently impossible to contradict reciprocity in cooperation (ethics), and as such it provides perfect decidability in all contexts of cooperation at all scales in all times, and under all conditions.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-13 14:50:28 UTC
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
NATURAL LAW FOR CHRISTIANS
(repost from 09 Monday Oct 2017)
Natural Law:
I have no idea what these men think natural law refers to, but in CAN only refer to Reciprocity. Every other reference is just an excuse for parasitism or predation by moral pretense.
Revelation:
The knowledge gained through the sciences (physical, physiological, natural-meaning cooperative, and testimonial(meaning knowable)) as a means of achieving agency in the universe.
God:
God is a unit of measure. God is a fictional (mythical) character (archetype) within a groupâs mythology, that in turn expresses the groupâs evolutionary strategy (geographic, demographic, economic, political norm, tradition, and religion), that when used through imaginary role play, functions as a an instrument of measurement (decidability), for those (many) circumstances, and for those (many uneducated) people, who must decide in the face of complexity, undecidability, or uncertainty, when the consequences of our actions (externalities, particularly intertemporal and long term externalities) are beyond our ability to judge. Sympathy with an authority figure is the simplest form of measurement available to man other than his own physical abilities to act. Sympathy, particularly with a paternal or maternal figure, is the first cooperative form of measurement man evolved, and the one that requires no specific education other than ordinary social participation, in order to function.
THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF NATURAL LAW THOUGHT
1. Natural law is an eternal moral law revealed to all people through human nature.
Correction:
The Natural Law of reciprocity is necessary for the preservation of cooperation, for any cooperative species â particularly a sentient one. Without the natural law of reciprocity, and the moral intuitions that accompany it, including altruistic punishment, then cooperation would not survive, and the population would not survive. Conversely, the more cooperation, the more contract, the more truth, the more trust, the lower the cost and the greater velocity of that cooperation. And as such, the greater prosperity.
2. Natural law influences (but cannot save) even fallen and sinful humanity.
Correction:
Man evolved as a rational actor, and must have evolved as a rational actor, in order to survive. Man acts rationally at all times given his incentives. He developed defense of his investments (possessions, and opportunities) before he developed cooperation. He developed moral instinct in parallel with his ability to cooperate, and language to improve his ability to cooperate. But while predation, parasitism, theft, fraud, and free riding and conspiracy are all natural to man â and universally demonstrated, it is simply almost always more advantageous to cooperate than not, or to engage in parasitism, or predation. And even so, we have developed systems of providing incentives against manâs rational choice of non-cooperation, parasitism, and predation, both informal (manners, ethics, morals, traditions) and formal (laws, enforcers, and governments). Man is not fallen angel but risen beast. That is simply the fact of it. He is rational â not good or bad, that is simply the fact of it. We all simply work to keep one another ethical, moral, and powerless so that it is always more rational to cooperate.
3. Natural law is the proper basis of political authority.
Correction:
The Natural Law of Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of conflict. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of cooperation and exchange. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of the production of commons. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in international agreement and conflict. Ergo, the Natural Law of Reciprocity provides the ONLY perfectly decidable means of dispute resolution, cooperation and exchange, production of commons, and international agreement and conflict.
4. Natural law authorizes society to establish a government.
Correction:
Natural Law of Reciprocity informs us that we require a judiciary to adjudicate differences, and markets to cooperate. Forming a political order (government) to do so on behalf of the population is a choice. But since all governments have been corrupt (especially the church), the price of government (management team for the commons), must be weighed against the benefit of one.
5. Governments are themselves subject to the natural law.
Correction:
Governments do not exist any more than god exists. Only people exist. A government consists only of people. And all people either observe the Natural Law of Reciprocity, and are held accountable by the rest of the population, for adhering to the Natural Law of Reciprocity, or they donât. If they donât, then they should expect retaliation for their crimes against the natural law of reciprocity, and therefore the polity.
6. Each societyâs laws should apply the natural law to that societyâs particular circumstances.
Correction:
Each society may create contracts under natural law that both preserve aggregate reciprocity but create combinations of rights and duties. But no, the natural law of reciprocity is no more violable than is the balance scale. Either the two weights balance, and reciprocity is preserved, or it does not balance and reciprocity is not preserved. Period.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-13 14:46:34 UTC
WHAT IS NATURAL LAW?
>A fully decidable (universal) Law of Ethics.
What do you mean by ethics?
>The law of cooperation and conflict resolution.
What is this law of cooperation and conflict resolution?
>Reciprocity.
WHAT IS RECIPROCITY?
In the Negative (Silver Rule, or via-negativa): The requirement to avoid the imposition of costs on that which others have born costs to obtain an interest in, without imposing costs upon that which others have likewise born costs to obtain an interest in.
In the Positive(Golden Rule, or via-positiva): the requirement that we limit our actions to productive, fully informed, warrantied, voluntary transfers, free of the imposition of costs by externality, upon that which others have obtained by the same means.
As determined by the either any change, or the total change in the inventory that all parties both internal and external to the action have born costs to obtain an interest without imposition of costs upon others directly or indirectly by externality.
—“All of ethics can be reduced to [is a subset/special application of] the degree of reciprocity & the accounting thereof.— James Augustus
WHY DOES RECIPROCITY SERVE AS NATURAL LAW?
Because it is apparently impossible to contradict reciprocity in cooperation (ethics), and as such it provides perfect decidability in all contexts of cooperation at all scales in all times, and under all conditions.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-13 10:50:00 UTC
NATURAL LAW FOR CHRISTIANS
(repost from 09 Monday Oct 2017)
Natural Law:
I have no idea what these men think natural law refers to, but in CAN only refer to Reciprocity. Every other reference is just an excuse for parasitism or predation by moral pretense.
Revelation:
The knowledge gained through the sciences (physical, physiological, natural-meaning cooperative, and testimonial(meaning knowable)) as a means of achieving agency in the universe.
God:
God is a unit of measure. God is a fictional (mythical) character (archetype) within a group’s mythology, that in turn expresses the group’s evolutionary strategy (geographic, demographic, economic, political norm, tradition, and religion), that when used through imaginary role play, functions as a an instrument of measurement (decidability), for those (many) circumstances, and for those (many uneducated) people, who must decide in the face of complexity, undecidability, or uncertainty, when the consequences of our actions (externalities, particularly intertemporal and long term externalities) are beyond our ability to judge. Sympathy with an authority figure is the simplest form of measurement available to man other than his own physical abilities to act. Sympathy, particularly with a paternal or maternal figure, is the first cooperative form of measurement man evolved, and the one that requires no specific education other than ordinary social participation, in order to function.
THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF NATURAL LAW THOUGHT
1. Natural law is an eternal moral law revealed to all people through human nature.
Correction:
The Natural Law of reciprocity is necessary for the preservation of cooperation, for any cooperative species – particularly a sentient one. Without the natural law of reciprocity, and the moral intuitions that accompany it, including altruistic punishment, then cooperation would not survive, and the population would not survive. Conversely, the more cooperation, the more contract, the more truth, the more trust, the lower the cost and the greater velocity of that cooperation. And as such, the greater prosperity.
2. Natural law influences (but cannot save) even fallen and sinful humanity.
Correction:
Man evolved as a rational actor, and must have evolved as a rational actor, in order to survive. Man acts rationally at all times given his incentives. He developed defense of his investments (possessions, and opportunities) before he developed cooperation. He developed moral instinct in parallel with his ability to cooperate, and language to improve his ability to cooperate. But while predation, parasitism, theft, fraud, and free riding and conspiracy are all natural to man – and universally demonstrated, it is simply almost always more advantageous to cooperate than not, or to engage in parasitism, or predation. And even so, we have developed systems of providing incentives against man’s rational choice of non-cooperation, parasitism, and predation, both informal (manners, ethics, morals, traditions) and formal (laws, enforcers, and governments). Man is not fallen angel but risen beast. That is simply the fact of it. He is rational – not good or bad, that is simply the fact of it. We all simply work to keep one another ethical, moral, and powerless so that it is always more rational to cooperate.
3. Natural law is the proper basis of political authority.
Correction:
The Natural Law of Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of conflict. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of cooperation and exchange. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in matters of the production of commons. Reciprocity provides perfect decidability in international agreement and conflict. Ergo, the Natural Law of Reciprocity provides the ONLY perfectly decidable means of dispute resolution, cooperation and exchange, production of commons, and international agreement and conflict.
4. Natural law authorizes society to establish a government.
Correction:
Natural Law of Reciprocity informs us that we require a judiciary to adjudicate differences, and markets to cooperate. Forming a political order (government) to do so on behalf of the population is a choice. But since all governments have been corrupt (especially the church), the price of government (management team for the commons), must be weighed against the benefit of one.
5. Governments are themselves subject to the natural law.
Correction:
Governments do not exist any more than god exists. Only people exist. A government consists only of people. And all people either observe the Natural Law of Reciprocity, and are held accountable by the rest of the population, for adhering to the Natural Law of Reciprocity, or they don’t. If they don’t, then they should expect retaliation for their crimes against the natural law of reciprocity, and therefore the polity.
6. Each society’s laws should apply the natural law to that society’s particular circumstances.
Correction:
Each society may create contracts under natural law that both preserve aggregate reciprocity but create combinations of rights and duties. But no, the natural law of reciprocity is no more violable than is the balance scale. Either the two weights balance, and reciprocity is preserved, or it does not balance and reciprocity is not preserved. Period.
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-13 10:46:00 UTC
Curt Doolittle updated his status.
—“Just as there are always criminals acting in their self interest at the expense of the group, not everyone a group is capable of long time horizon decisions for the betterment of that group. And so there must be a discriminatory process that prevents them from having a voice. In fact it seems likely that the super-majority of any population can’t make a good decision for that population… sad but true.”—Greg Hamilton
Source date (UTC): 2018-07-13 01:57:11 UTC