Theme: Civilization

  • “I’m curious of a similar breakdown of the teachings of other major religions or

    —“I’m curious of a similar breakdown of the teachings of other major religions or philosophies, as you did with stoicism and christianity. Say Islam or Confusianism in China?”— Carl Persson

    I did confucianism but it was really easy, because it’s not complicated structurally, has no lies or woo woo to overcome, and is limited only by their language, the early concentration of power possible by their martial aristocracy, their failure to solve the problem of politics, and therefore they directed the entirety of the society into a ‘harmonious hierarchy’. If you look at chinese philosophy as Sun Tzu (Rule), Confucian (Administration), and Lao Tzu (Labor) and Buddhsim (complacency), you see their tripartism+ very close to ours: Military and Scientific Epistemology ( Machiavelli-Clausewitz-Keegan, Aristotle-Hamilton-Adams-Jefferson, Locke-Smith-Hume-Darwin-Menger, and the christian theologians. Like most older civs the chinese started with a hierarchy ad river valley, but because they were homogenous, kin, they didn’t have the problems of the middle east. So the difference between west and east is agrarian concentration there and distribution here, our language which is technological and legal (Later) rather than agrarian and ‘wisdom lit’ (earlier), and market (unconsolidated power) vs monolithic (consolidated power), but otherwise they are not that different … other than have taken neoteny a lot farther than we have and… well, they have no choice but to wall off the rest of the world.

    The only hard one is Hinduism which isn’t really a religion it’s a wisdom literature that they practice as a way of life.

    Buddhism was a reformation of hinduism, but over time the ‘god thing’ crept back in there and ruined it.

    I’m kind of anti-buddhist because it’s a recipe for inaction (withdrawl) while stoicism is one of empowerment but vulnerable to woo woo, so I’m sticking with the stoick method of self authoring virtues and the epicurean program otherwise.

    That’s the best personal philosophy(means of decidability).

    For social philosophy (means of decidability) it’s hard to beat christianity’s five natural laws.

    For political philosophy (decidability) it’s hard to beat rule of law by natural law, the judge and jury and commons.

    I mean, I’m all up for inventing predatory and parasitic cults – and I”m happy to return to the predation of my ancestors. But if you want cooperation instead, well, we know how to do it.

    Natural law.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 14:23:07 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508199050221052

  • We are not only our own people’s, but mankind’s aristocracy – dragging them out

    We are not only our own people’s, but mankind’s aristocracy – dragging them out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, hard labor, and disease. But there is no thanks for doing it. There is no reward for doing it. And the job is never, ever, ever done. We rule or be ruled. We rule and evolve, we fail to rule and we devolve. So choose.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 14:16:49 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508174351157914

  • “What do you think would happen if Christianity faded from the US?”—Michael D.

    —“What do you think would happen if Christianity faded from the US?”—Michael D. Abbott

    Do you mean religious, philosophical, or secular?

    As a religion, It is fading, It’s dividing into protestant evangelicals (power) and secular christianity with the major decline (Predictably) coming from either leftist protestants or catholics. And the catholic decline is obviously the result of vatican II, the empty chair, the sexual crimes of the churchmen, the church’s failure to do a purge of sexual predators, the failure to allow married priests, the failure to demand well educated priests (psychologists, psychotherapists), and in general her abandonment of the educated.

    Only churchy people think the church is important.
    Our people need a religion in the sense that they need a binding mythos, binding rituals, and means of social and personal mindfulness.

    And we need social sanction of birth, rite of passage, marriage, birth, and death.

    But whatever that system is, the church as we know it is dead in the professional and upper classes.

    We have no great narrative builder in the west OTHER THAN ENEMIES.

    I have to work on Caesar until I”m done. If no one solves Religion by the time I get to it, and assuming I live long enough to get to it, maybe I’ll work on it.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 14:13:44 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508162209883701

  • MAYBE BUT I CAN’T SEE ROLLING BACK THE CLOCK OF SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. —“White

    MAYBE BUT I CAN’T SEE ROLLING BACK THE CLOCK OF SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE.

    —“White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, in particular, might turn to the Bible in somewhat the manner of their Angelcynn ancestors in the time of Alfred the Great.”— Kevin Macdonald.

    @TOOEdit

    I would love to have this discussion with you because I’m torn between the demonstrated value of the group strategy in Christianity, and the method of delivery (semitic parable) and the method of persuasion (False Promise, Baiting into Moral Hazard, Pilpul and Critique.)

    Same with Duchesne. He also puts value in Christianity that I don’t see. And it might be because of the radius of corruption that extends out from the Church – especially Italy. Studying Economics and Law produces a very different history from Theo, Phil, and and Literature.

    All peoples need a binding narrative that contains a group strategy, a means of decidability(morality), a means of ‘mindfulness’ for personal, interpersonal, and social, a means of status equalization (festivals), for what’s reducible to maintaining a neural economy. Why Xianity?

    And can Christianity be reformed so that we preserve the historical commonality of strategy, but have supernatural, moral-normative, and ratio-scientific means of education (indoctrination, training) that doesn’t make us vulnerable to semitism (submission, sophism) and “lying”?

    Religion has been the hardest problem in social science, and it’s precisely the invulnerability to rational argument that provides intergenerational transmission with minimum modification of the underlying strategy.

    (Thanks for letting me think out loud. 😉 )


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 14:08:24 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508141243321700

  • We aren’t equal because our families aren’t equal, because our ancestors weren’t

    —We aren’t equal because our families aren’t equal, because our ancestors weren’t equal, because our people aren’t equal, because our civilizations aren’t equal, because a long line of better decisions ended up with me and mine rather than you and yours.—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:55:59 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508092423870833

  • You are who you are because of a long line of bad decisions over thousands of ye

    —You are who you are because of a long line of bad decisions over thousands of years and you can only change that by making better decisions. So learn something, make better decisions, and do the hard work of producing families that raise mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, by continuous genetic improvement.—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:55:40 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508091202291828

  • I don’t owe you anything. My family doesn’t owe you anything. My ancestors don’t

    —I don’t owe you anything. My family doesn’t owe you anything. My ancestors don’t owe you anything. My people don’t owe you anything. My civilization doesn’t owe you anything, and mankind clearly has judged you a dead weight upon it, and doesn’t owe you anything either.—


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:54:57 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508088328702470

  • THE PURPOSE OF RELIGIONS AND CHRISTIAN STRATEGY (from twitter) The purpose of re

    THE PURPOSE OF RELIGIONS AND CHRISTIAN STRATEGY
    (from twitter)

    The purpose of religions is to provide mindfulness (neural economy) by intergenerational transfer of group competitive strategy in non-rational terms that are resistant to attack by reason and sophism, truth and lie, science and pseudoscience, and criticism and competition.

    Christianity in 5 rules: the eradication of hatred from the human heart. The extension of familial love to all. The demand for personal acts of charity and personal cost. The extension of exhaustive forgiveness before punishment. Faith in doing so despite the risk and cost

    Those rules create both positive and negative consequences: high trust society that can build large productive commons and low corruption institutions – at the cost of pathological altruism for the world’s least kin selected people, making them vulnerable to non-violent enemies.

    I can disambiguate every sentence you speak into your group class and gender strategy – and every other major civilization. We all perpetuate our lies in the vocabulary and grammar we know how to use, in the paradigms we inherited, to produce, free ride, or prey upon competitors.

    Find me any group that doesn’t (a) find excuses to justify it’s group competitive strategy (b) use a specific paradigm, vocabulary and grammar to communicate it in, (c) use gossip, rallying, shaming, loading, framing, obscurantism sophism and straw manning against competitors.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:50:22 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508070280092828

  • IT’S THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF GOOD DECISIONS —“For instance, somebody will say, “

    IT’S THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF GOOD DECISIONS

    —“For instance, somebody will say, “Well it’s just LUCK that you were born the way you were and somebody else was born the way they were.”—

    It’s not luck at all. it’s the cumulative effort and good judgement of many ancestors to produce me, people like me, my culture, and my civilization rather than you, people like you, your culture, and your civilization, and it’s my debt to them to continue their costly investment in my life, and the lives of my children, and not have it stolen by, and used to continue the bad judgements of people like you, your ancestors, your people, your future, and your civilization.

    We aren’t equal because our families aren’t equal, because our ancestors weren’t equal, because our people aren’t equal, because our civilizations aren’t equal, because a long line of better decisions ended up with me and mine rather than you and yours.

    So learn something, make better decisions, and do the hard work of producing families that raise mankind out of superstition, ignorance, poverty, by continuous genetic improvement.

    You are who you are because of a long line of bad decisions and you can only change that by making better decisions.

    I don’t owe you anything. My family doesn’t owe you anything. My ancestors don’t owe you anything. My people don’t owe you anything. My civilization doesn’t owe you anything, and mankind clearly has judged you a dead weight upon it.

    There is no “WE” other than my family, kin, nation. Families either cooperate, for mutual gain, or those that fail are left behind by their betters -for good reason.

    So that future generations do not have this conversation – you begging for something you and your ancestors haven’t earned.

    No matter where you and your people and your culture go – there you are. And parasites are just that and nothing more.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:44:00 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/102508045242154357

  • As far as I know corruption exists and rent seeking exists, but there is no such

    As far as I know corruption exists and rent seeking exists, but there is no such thing as privilege – that’s just a pejorative for “thousands of years of good decisions producing superior genes, families, culture, norms, traditions, institutions.”


    Source date (UTC): 2019-07-26 13:11:05 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1154740925802909701