Theme: Civilization

  • Men don’t go to university as often largely because they know it’s teaching fals

    Men don’t go to university as often largely because they know it’s teaching falsehoods, the purpose of which is to destroy their civilization.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 15:40:47 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189567836278140930

  • FOR HINDUSTANIS: NO MORE NONSENSE. “YOU WAS’T KANGS.” (uncomfortable Truth Warni

    FOR HINDUSTANIS: NO MORE NONSENSE. “YOU WAS’T KANGS.”

    (uncomfortable Truth Warning)

    HISTORY OF THE IE CIVILIZATIONS:

    The European, Caucasian, Iranic, and Indian Peoples.

    Look. The IE expansion occurred in Ukraine and Russian north of the black sea out of what appears to have been a competition between proto-european and proto-iranic peoples (and not proto-turkic peoples). The southern and caucasian branch has largely been lost but mixed armenians and georgians remain. The anatolians are lost entirely. The iranic branch moved east, some continued farther east into india and disappeared into the local dravidian population, and the rest continued south into persia, and spread west again to the caucuses, leaving the iranic (some arab admixture) peoples, the indian (70/30-30/70) iranic-dravidian admixture peoples, the european peoples, and the mixed balkan peoples. That is the foundation of the european-caucasian-iranic-indian peoples.

    That group of people had bronze, horse, wheel, maneuver, entrepreneurial organization, a religion they’d adapted from anatolia, but inverted from submissive to heroic, and similar but varied religions that rapidly adapted to each environment. The european remained aristocratic egalitarian, most likely because they conquered near relations, completely conquered them, and retained empirical property-law and the aristocratic peerage. the iranics moved into more developed areas of the indus, persian gulf, and finally Mesopotamian, and adopted religiously dominant hierarchical law so that they could govern conquered peoples. The iranics that conquered and entered india used a hierarchical formal class religion to govern the dravidic peoples – we don’t know why but it appears because indus peoples were more advanced and they needed some means of narration.

    All of us were ‘stuck’ with that original decision of ‘how to govern ourselves and the people we conquered’. However, we were also stuck with demographics, with India and Mesopotamia having a terrible governance problem because of the ease of survival of the underclasses, but the benefit of trade routes that could be taxes for profit and the financing of wars. But that original decision of how to ‘think about, talk about, argue about how we organize’ is the primary cause of the difference in our achievements.

    India seems to have developed very rational law and scholarship at one point, but stagnated and like medieval Europe, never evolved a central state strong enough to resist invaders – all of whom were resisted by the pure scale of India not so much as any other factor. The rather obvious answer is that the loss of the Indus river (hrappans) was catastrophic, the demographics unalterable, that a majority middle class could not evolve (and still is struggling).

    Persia is a well understood story and had not the byzantines and Sassanids exhausted each other Persia would have built an Iranic civilization as India has an Indian, and insulated the rest of the world from the curse (cancer) of islam and it’s systemic destruction of every genetic, institutional, cultural, and intellectual form of capital by expansion of its underclasses. Everyone fought over taxation of the trade routes of the middle east until the age of sail circumvented those trade routes making them irrelevant and eliminating the ability fund soldiers, fund technological investment, build technology, because they lacked the demographics to do it (as china is showing India at the moment).

    Europe lacked both the warm climate, the flood river valleys, and the trade routes, so while europeans could consume more calories, it had to endure winters, and it was impossible to centralize enough capital to create institutions – until they moved south to conquer the mediterraneans and develop Mediterranean trade. But they were not conquering vast hordes of established peoples. The bronze age collapse had made the Mediterranean vulnerable to european conquest just as the greco-roman collapse and byzantine-Sassanid war made the great civilizations of the ancient world vulnerable to Arab conquest.

    The difference is that european civilization was not absorbed into locals as were the Indians and the Caucasians, and somewhat the Persians, so they retained the institutions of the peerage, tripartism, customary law of tort, the jury of peers, and an military-empirical rather than supernatural -moral system of rule, that could more rapidly adopt to the development of a middle class. In otter words, no matter how wealthy, the wealthy were largely middle class (commercial).

    It was this legal system that made europeans work with competition, reason, argument, evidence, geometry, and philosophy rather than hierarchy or equality, moralizing, sophism or supernaturalism, and astrology.

    So the better question is ‘what did India and china, in their relative isolation do over thousands of years; vs what did Persia do in thousands of years, vs what did Assyria do in their thousands of years, vs what did europeans do in a few hundred years of conquering Europe, a few hundred years in the mediterranean, and a few hundred years after escaping the semitic (jewish, christian, islamic) dark ages?

    We all invent, trade, and spread technology. The question is ‘what do we do with it’, and how rapidly and what was the consequence?

    Europeans dragged humanity – kicking and screaming all the while – out of ignorance, superstition, poverty, starvation, hard labor, disease, suffering, child mortality, and early death by utilizing every bit of information to competitively adapt as fast as humanly possible in the IE expansion, in the Ancient World, and in the Modern World.

    What did the jews, the most literate people in Europe, do? What arts, what architecture, what achievements, what science, or technology, what medicine, what philosophy? None.

    What did islam achieve for having destroyed five great civilizations of the ancient world, and institutionalizing superstition, ignorance, illiteracy, obedience, the art of lying by abrahamic means.

    What did india achieve other than numbering and damascene (carbon) steel? What did india inherit from the first institutional civilization the Sumerians? I mean, trade is what makes the technology of measurement, recording, contracts and accounting necessary. Why did indians take the abacus and convert it to symbols where others simply retained the abacus and summary numbers? Why did the middle east focus on religion, india culture, west on law, and far east on bureaucracy?

    We all tried different things. But indians are desperately trying to blame someone other than the rate of the reproduction of the underclasses for their condition. It is not possible to fix indian demographics, society, or government, without eradication of islam, the conversion from myth to history, and most of all a one child policy for those unable to master the tertiary systems of calculation we call mathematics.

    And there is no other cause.

    And this ridiculous belief that you weren’t conquered by pretty much every group that came by, as if they are evil and you are culturally and institutionally incompetent, is something you need to get over. You’re almost isolated on a continent, and like the european or Chinese should have competed on the world stage, yet you haven’t built a wall like china, or a navy like europa, and haven’t prosecuted hostiles among you systematically conquering your people and reducing them to barbarism. The only person to blame for your culture’s condition is the man in the mirror. Because if you can’t compete, then you simply can’t compete, and nature does not tolerate those who she suffers but who do not evolve.

    The Red Queen Never Rests.

    You’re welcome for the education.

    I don’t make errors – ever.

    Don’t waste the fact that I invested my time in you.

    Learn something.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:26:00 UTC

  • THE CONTINUOUS GERMANIZATION OF CHRISTIANITY —“Protestantism happened because

    THE CONTINUOUS GERMANIZATION OF CHRISTIANITY

    —“Protestantism happened because christianity was never a perfect fit for us. The normal evolution of our civilization was disrupted when we encountered civilizations more developed. We had writing and metallurgy, but our stories and myths hadn’t become a codified law and spiritual system. It’s time for us to do this; it’s long overdue.”— Andrew M Gilmour


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:24:00 UTC

  • ARGUMENTUM AD THEOLOGICUM (yes it’s possible. it’s just almost impossible) We al

    ARGUMENTUM AD THEOLOGICUM

    (yes it’s possible. it’s just almost impossible)

    We all defend our investments. it’s irrational to think we won’t defend our investments. As long as that’s what we’re doing, it’s not ir-reciprocal.

    In my understanding, theology is just one of the grammars. it’s both conflationary, and fictionalist, using the supernatural fictionalism, but that doesn’t mean statements within it can’t be disambiguated, de-fictionalized, operationalized, and converted to statements of physical and natural law.

    We only come into conflcit when the disambiguated, defictionalized, operationalized, and tested for reciprocity exposes an involuntary transfer.

    When disambiguating, defictionalizing, nd operationalizing we take for granted we can test for:

    (a) identity (b) internal consistency, (c) rational choice, (d) and reciprocal rational choice, and possibly (e) full accounting …

    … Even if we cannot test for (f) external correspondence, (g) operational possibility, and (h) parsimony.

    … And within reciprocity we may test for (j) productivity, (k) voluntary transfer of demonstrated interests, and (l) involuntary transfer by externality, (m) and whether one has performed that due diligence, and (n ) whether one can perform restitution.

    So it’s not like we can’t largely test theological words. It’s mostly whether any argument demanding deduction that is dependent upon theological terms is possible. In other words, it may be possible to make ethical statements in theology it is however, extremely difficult to make arguments from them. It’s not impossible. It just appears very uncommon.

    There are many true and reciprocal statements in theology.

    There are very few if any true and reciprocal arguments.

    That’s the nature of the problem of fictional premises.

    Not much to do about it.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:23:00 UTC

  • I love christian manners: “god bless you” et all. I am equally happy with ‘the g

    I love christian manners: “god bless you” et all. I am equally happy with ‘the gods’ instead of ‘god’, and equally unhappy and hostile to the other semitic gods. I love christian ethics. and I love christian behavior. And I love the church experience. And i love its role in birth, adulthood, marriage, care-taking, suffering, and death. I wish it still retained juris over the matters of the family.

    And My experience with education by the church was far superior to that of the state – by orders of magnitude. Personally I would prefer a military experience more suitable to males. And I know some would value sports, or arts, or commercial experiences. And I know I would prefer to find old gods, heroes, artists, scientists, and saints in my Church with Jesus but one among them. And I would find prayer to them more valuable than to those I find feminine. And yes I would prefer the stoic method of discipline rather than submission to a semitic god. I would prefer we celebrate love our heathen(nature) and pagan(masculine) as well as christian (feminine) holidays.

    But that said, while there are many good social and personal consequences of the religion, christianity failed us politically – it had to – the church could not survive the restoration of aristotelianism and its consequences no matter how hard the theologians tried.

    And worse, the church failed to reform. And the catholic church’s pope has now our declared the church our enemy. Orthodoxy is too weak in the west. Protestantism thankfully has evolved into a folk religion, especially with the advent of American evangelicals. I think I understand where this will lead and it is beautiful.

    But first we must solve real problems that are unavoidable: ending another conquest by hostile alien political systems masquerading as religions. Ending the destruction of our civilization by the second attempt at undermining us using the abrahamic methods of deceit – this time in secular prose, as well as fundamentalist semitic prose. And second we must solve the failure of our religion to merge the aristotelian-legal, moral-rational-political, masculine religion, and feminine religion.

    I can only describe the problem I do not have the skill or talent or mind to provide a solution other than the incentives for others with appropriate skills and talents, to bring a religious system across that spectrum into fruition. Although maybe if I live long enough it will be possible.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:23:00 UTC

  • TWO ANSWERS ON RELIGION —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of i

    TWO ANSWERS ON RELIGION

    —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of intentional civilization building thing rather than a set of existential beliefs that individuals possess in light of the full human ignorance of the origins and purpose of reality.”—John Marshall

    A) Yes I understand human demand for mindfulness. I simply observe that this particular means of mindfulness is catastrophically destructive, and that there are scientific and philosophical means of achieving the same ends, without the same side effects. So did the conquering christians – which is why they closed all the stoic schools, and killed or chased off the philosophers, and destroyed the arts letters and architecture of the ancient world – to prevent men from independence they would gain by stoic training, and epicurean lifestyles, rather than abrahamic mindfulness submission and slavery.

    B) You don’t think each and every institutional religion was designed to employ suggestion, empathy, and false promise as a means of coercing primitive illiterate ignorant petty people into a politically beneficial behavior?

    I mean, I’m pretty well read on the development of every religion and by and large there isn’t any difference between the development of a logic, a science, a philosophy, a work of literature, a work of mythology, and a theology. it’s all engineering the human experience by a combination of techniques.

    There is no difference between the script writer and director provoking an experience, than that of Saul of Tarsus trying merge the various Roman, Greek, Persian, Mesopotamian religions into a jewish rebel’s narrative, in order to replace the primary religious works of the Mediterranean (Homer and Achilles), with an anti-hero (Abraham and Jesus).

    The fact that we desire the provisions of science, history, literature, philosophy, and theology and that we have produced religions for different classes in every civilization except islam is rather obvious. it’s just that the underclasses are better governed by theological superstition, the middle by philosophical sophism, and the upper by exercise of power, is nothing more than evidence of the need for a system of achievement accessible to classes possessed of different degrees of agency. Escapism and supernaturalism; justification and sophism; empiricism and power.

    You need to feel you aren’t manipulated by those with greater agency – I understand.It’s just false.

    Religion largely provides sedation as a means of mindfulness, while buddhism, stoicism, and wisdom(science, history) incrementally provide mindfulness by providing one with agency – rather than sedation.

    Just because drugs feel good doesn’t mean that they are good for you. Just because theology makes you feel good doesn’t mean it is good for you. Just because lying feels good doesn’t mean it is good for you.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:22:00 UTC

  • FUN WITH CHRISTIANS —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of inten

    FUN WITH CHRISTIANS

    —“You are clearly analyzing religion as some kind of intentional civilization building thing rather than a set of existential beliefs that individuals possess in light of the full human ignorance of the origins and purpose of reality.”—John Marshall

    A) Yes I understand human demand for mindfulness. I simply observe that this particular means of mindfulness is catastrophically destructive, and that there are scientific and philosophical means of achieving the same ends, without the same side effects. So did the conquering christians – which is why they closed all the stoic schools, and killed or chased off the philosophers, and destroyed the arts letters and architecture of the ancient world – to prevent men from independence they would gain by stoic training, and epicurean lifestyles, rather than abrahamic mindfulness submission and slavery.

    B) You don’t think each and every institutional religion was designed to employ suggestion, empathy, and false promise as a means of coercing primitive illiterate ignorant petty people into a politically beneficial behavior?

    I mean, I’m pretty well read on the development of every religion and by and large there isn’t any difference between the development of a logic, a science, a philosophy, a work of literature, a work of mythology, and a theology. it’s all engineering the human experience by a combination of techniques.

    There is no difference between the script writer and director provoking an experience, than that of Saul of Tarsus trying merge the various Roman, Greek, Persian, Mesopotamian religions into a jewish rebel’s narrative, in order to replace the primary religious works of the Mediterranean (Homer and Achilles), with an anti-hero (Abraham and Jesus).

    The fact that we desire the provisions of science, history, literature, philosophy, and theology and that we have produced religions for different classes in every civilization except islam is rather obvious. it’s just that the underclasses are better governed by theological superstition, the middle by philosophical sophism, and the upper by exercise of power, is nothing more than evidence of the need for a system of achievement accessible to classes possessed of different degrees of agency. Escapism and supernaturalism; justification and sophism; empiricism and power.

    You need to feel you aren’t manipulated by those with greater agency – I understand.

    It’s just false. Religion largely provides sedation as a means of mindfulness, while buddhism, stoicism, and wisdom(science, history) incrementally provide mindfulness by providing one with agency – rather than sedation.

    Just because drugs feel good doesn’t mean that they are good for you. Just because theology makes you feel good doesn’t mean it is good for you. Just because lying feels good doesn’t mean it is good for you.

    —“To be clear: You believe in Evolution and a 4 billion year old Earth, while taking the entire Book of Genesis as a fraud or a work of fiction?”—John Marshall

    Of course. I mean, we know the origin of every story in it. I’ve written about Adam and Eve and Cain and Able. These stories predate the jews. They were just appropriated. Most of it’s Babylonian. And the story of Egypt is also claiming victimhood rather than defeat.

    I mean, I don’t make errors. I have to compensate for a lot of you. It’s not that hard. I just do the work instead of presume.

    —“Where is your evidence that all living things in the world share a single celled common ancestor, despite the fact that the change of a kind of animal into a totally different kind has never been observed? Wheres your evidence for a 4 billion year old Earth, despite the fact that this is impossible due to the rate at which the Moon is leaving the Earth, and that those years are simply added to give more time for Evolution to happen in the minds of Evolutionists? Seems like you’re just accepting myths from above like everyone else.”—John Marshall

    Why would we share a single celled common ancestor. Parallel evolution happened all over the place. (you don’t understand Gelernter’s argument, and even if you did, he is a jewish theologian first, and a professor of computer science last, and if you were able (or i was in front of him) it would be a very short conversation to humiliate him. )

    –“Wheres your evidence for a 4 billion year old Earth”—

    Radioactive materials decay at invariant rates, giving rise to daughter products, and it is a nearly perfect clock. Radioactive materials require sun to terminate in order to produce them. The oldest material in the solar system is 4.6b, from the period of first consolidation (formation) and the estimate of the age of the earth (4.5 or so) varies only by whether we’re talking about the beginning of accretion or the beginning of granite flotation. In other words we cannot falsify the evidence, since no matter where we look in the solar system everything else is explained by the same time frames.

    —“Do you believe that human beings share a common ancestor with gorillas and chimpanzees?”—

    I don’t ‘believe’ anything – that is a theological statement. Instead, I can’t falsify the theory.

    And, if you’re asking ‘did we share a set of common ancestors rather than a single ancestor, then yes. The only bottlenecks I know of are relatively recent and seem to be largely on the female side. These were later offset by a minority of males fathering a majority of children.

    Why? Similar to rates of change in radiation, there is a measurable mutation survival rate in all DNA including that of all the great apes. (This is how Gelertner and others have tried to fool the ignorant – by conflating survivor mutation rate in surviving samples with mutation rate in population.) Taking advantage of people’s ignorance combined with their wishful thinking.

    The evolutionary trajectory is traceable, and rather obvious, the only problem we really face is that while we differ from chimps by about 5-6%, 90% of DNA is Junk (unused). And recombinant genetic expression is far more complex than we had originally thought. meaning smaller numbers of increasingly complex proteins can replace larger numbers of less complex proteins. I mean in theory at some point we should be able to build a human with one very complex protein, which , ooops… would look like the next generation of DNA, just as DNA is a revolution over RNA.

    Anyway.

    Yeah. We, like all great apes, evolved from groups of related ancestors.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:22:00 UTC

  • WE HAVE NO CHOICE. EQUALITY IN RECIPROCITY OR IN POVERTY Our only possibilities

    WE HAVE NO CHOICE. EQUALITY IN RECIPROCITY OR IN POVERTY

    Our only possibilities are equality in reciprocity or equality in ignorance, superstition, and absolute poverty. There is no choice. It’s just physics. Humans have memories, predictions from memories, and ability to choose to act on those predictions, so that we can outwit time in ways physical processes lacking memory, prediction, choice, and action cannot. However that only allows us to benefit from physical processes not deny or circumvent them. We are as physically constrained as is the rest of the universe. And our only substantial advantage is that the ability to imitate, empathize, sympathize, predict futures from them, and choose to cooperate on those possible futures, is so much more efficient and provides so many greater returns, that we can do a bit better than the rest of life forms – at least with our limits – to convert more calories, and continuously increase our consumption through continuous expansion of cooperation. But in doing so we form Pareto distributions of influence, in order to obtain Nash equilibriums of rewards. And that is a physical necessity of physical reality. We don’t have any choice. We are not wealthier than cave men, our only asset is time. Through cooperation we have made the purchasing power of time increase over and over again throughout history, although disproportionately so with the invention of aristotielainsim, and even more so with the mastery of heat, steam, electricity, chemistry, and now information.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:18:00 UTC

  • THE CHOICE – AND OUR CIVILIZATION’S CHOICES Life separates plant from mineral. C

    THE CHOICE – AND OUR CIVILIZATION’S CHOICES

    Life separates plant from mineral.

    Consciousness separates animals from plants.

    Agency separates man from animals.

    And not everyone has agency.

    — Ryan Drummond

    Thus we have a choice.

    – Evolve the rest of man into agency (Aryanism, Africanism)

    – Cooperate at our current level of agency (Hinduism)

    – Farm the rest of man that lacks agency (Asianism)

    – Devolve man into the lack of agency (Judaism and Islam)

    — Curt Doolittle


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:15:00 UTC

  • Hmm.. our denial of natural classes and the western tradition of tripartism (now

    Hmm.. our denial of natural classes and the western tradition of tripartism (now quadripartism) and the differences in ability between those classes has been created by the marxist(class), feminist (gender) postmodernist (identity, race) project to undermine class cooperation that allows for at least some class rotation, rather than preventing it with castes.


    Source date (UTC): 2019-10-30 12:06:00 UTC