Theme: Civilization

  • What’s Wrong with Ireland?

    Jan 7, 2020, 4:26 PM

    —“David Robles Hey Curt, what can you tell us about IRELAND? Also I love propertarianism have read so much about it could you add me?”—

    Added. Depends on what context you’re asking about. I dunno what P can tell us but I think the discussion on Ireland has been going on for more than two centuries, and irish were discussed in the same terms as we cast subsaharan africans – and there is no mystery there. It was a third world country not that long ago. And having other people to blame for their condition just gives them an excuse for doing nothing. (Note that I hired irish on purpose ’cause it’s fixable outside of the home environment.) WHAT’S WRONG? (a) don’t run your population up to 14ppl for acre on the only crop that can support that many (b) don’t lose your upper classes to emigration. Ergo, dunno what real IQ is but it has been substantially lower than the european average for a very long time.Ireland went over the cliff (97) which is where the USA is today. 95 is a hard cliff. Ireland is below it. (c ) mandate monogamy rather than serial marriage as early in your development as possible. Irish maintained serial marriage until the 1800s. (d) neuter the church expand literacy as early as possible (e) ruthlessly prosecute virtue-signalers, and corruption no matter how useful it is to you or your family. (f) don’t get dependent on handouts from the EU (g) if you’re a small country you have limited choices and that’s to imitate either Switzerland (money) or Germany (quality) our tourism (cleanliness, service, discipline). Who does ireland imitate? India. Yep. India. “It’s not my responsibility but its my right to complain” (h) countries with nothing going for them try to be different from their neighbors by out-virtue-signaling rather than out-competing (Ireland vs Britain, Canada vs USA, everyone vs Germany). Ireland should be imitating Germany Switzerland and England not trying to be different – that must means losing even more than they’ve been losing. Man up, work, compete. (i) petty criminality is ‘acceptable’ behavior (‘knicking’ stuff) instead of ruthlessly punished. You know what the broken window strategy is? Well, Ireland needs it. (j) talk about freedom and such but they sure act like they need a freaking brutal dictator to discipline into working and competing for a living. (g) Don’t blame others for failing anything above this list. It’s the man in the mirror. (h) oh, well the wind is a pain in the ass. I agree…. 😉 Same sh–t I say all the time in ukraine: “man up, gear up, and go punish laziness, free riding, virtue signaling, and corruption until there is no one else to beat the p–ss out of, because students, mothers, workers, clerks, managers, bankers, police, judges, bureaucrats, and politicians are terrified that they’ll be taken to court of the people with a noose if they do.” Politicians don’t solve problems. The people do. By intolerance. Summary by a blogger from a few years ago: —“Ireland is no longer a country. It has no soul, no truth, no justice, no equality, no decorum, no morals, no code, no honour, no creed. It is a perverse, twisted and sinister land where right is wrong and wrong is right. The courts are packed to the rafters with criminal trials and civil law suits, while white-collar criminals walk free and the small debt defaulter gets a prison cell. It is a wild land where rules go flying out the window at a moment’s notice. Elections mean nothing whether people want them or not and are nothing but a next-in-line party system irrespective of suitability. The old guard are there while the system rots and rots from bureaucracy, inertia and rhetoric. Parties claiming they can do a better job in trying to oust the other, but only hiding behind prepared departmental rhetoric and defending what should be prosecuted when in government. A land where the terrorist, bomber, murderer, or recidivist gets early release and victims get kicked in the teeth for their trouble and forgotten about quickly. Laws are lax or unenforced and nothing but a book of politics and convenience to set the guilty free. Our people have being enslaved by a sick and supine system of government and Church, under a corrupt waiting-list system, which has done more to divide people than unite them. It is a disgraceful country where government abrogates its responsibilities and careerist politicians laugh at the electorate when they collect their enormous undeserved pensions and perks. A society which does not give a damn and chronically indifferent and self-serving in the extreme. An abode where mé féiners will kick you when you are down and begrudge you when you are up. A culture of fear, repression, ignorance, jealousy and one-upmanship. It is a regime of incessant work for the connected, cronied and nepotised who ironically have no life and no disposable income who end up marooned under a mountain of debt for their life’s toil – while thousands are hidden on ineffective job initiatives. An expensive country where money management is impossible and taxes are progressive. This country is a load of trouble from beginning to its failed revolutionary end and will end up at the bottom of the bottomless pit. There is nothing in Ireland for people only a load of trouble”—

  • I Don”t Complain About Races.

    Jan 7, 2020, 4:57 PM (re: arabs) I don’t complain about races. There are no problem with races. There are only problems with ideas, ideologies, philosophies, theologies, cultures, traditions, laws, and government … and demographic distributions (excess size of underclasses in poor countries mean it is not possible to structure pareto distributions economically, create rule of law, middle class majorities.) For the Arabs, islam was necessary to stop the horrible corruption of the tribal leaders. Unfortunately it became an excuse for expansion which destroyed many more developed civilizations. If Persians had been successful and the turks not invaded and destroyed persian restoration of the middle east, all would have been fine. But the persians could not recover. and the byzantines were finally defeated. And the middle east could not escape ignorance and superstition. Arabs use face before truth. This is very hard to change. Face before truth, ignorance, and obsession with islam, and externalization of internal conflict is the problem. Time will care for it if we do not have a world war to prevent another empire from rising.

  • I Don”t Complain About Races.

    Jan 7, 2020, 4:57 PM (re: arabs) I don’t complain about races. There are no problem with races. There are only problems with ideas, ideologies, philosophies, theologies, cultures, traditions, laws, and government … and demographic distributions (excess size of underclasses in poor countries mean it is not possible to structure pareto distributions economically, create rule of law, middle class majorities.) For the Arabs, islam was necessary to stop the horrible corruption of the tribal leaders. Unfortunately it became an excuse for expansion which destroyed many more developed civilizations. If Persians had been successful and the turks not invaded and destroyed persian restoration of the middle east, all would have been fine. But the persians could not recover. and the byzantines were finally defeated. And the middle east could not escape ignorance and superstition. Arabs use face before truth. This is very hard to change. Face before truth, ignorance, and obsession with islam, and externalization of internal conflict is the problem. Time will care for it if we do not have a world war to prevent another empire from rising.

  • Where Do Traditions and Norms Originate?

    Where Do Traditions and Norms Originate? https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/26/where-do-traditions-and-norms-originate/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-26 01:14:56 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265089000060211201

  • Where Do Traditions and Norms Originate?

    Jan 8, 2020, 6:24 AM Every group has a competitive (evolutionary) strategy at its formation. We develop narratives (excuses) and rules to persist that strategy, while maintaining some form of reciprocity. Once entrenched these are almost impossible to change. There are a limited number of properties to these strategies. I haven’t disambiguated them yet, but at the general level they’re the nature of the world, the nature of man, the ‘right’ organization of the hierarchies to conduct and persist that strategy, and ‘right action’ within it. The norms and language vary according to the stage of development and long term demands. These rules allow us to habituate, predict, and calculate our actions giving us the perception of the constancy of the universe by minimizing the complexity of our cognitive costs. We are superpredators after all, and it’s amazing that we can cooperate in such vast numbers.

  • Where Do Traditions and Norms Originate?

    Jan 8, 2020, 6:24 AM Every group has a competitive (evolutionary) strategy at its formation. We develop narratives (excuses) and rules to persist that strategy, while maintaining some form of reciprocity. Once entrenched these are almost impossible to change. There are a limited number of properties to these strategies. I haven’t disambiguated them yet, but at the general level they’re the nature of the world, the nature of man, the ‘right’ organization of the hierarchies to conduct and persist that strategy, and ‘right action’ within it. The norms and language vary according to the stage of development and long term demands. These rules allow us to habituate, predict, and calculate our actions giving us the perception of the constancy of the universe by minimizing the complexity of our cognitive costs. We are superpredators after all, and it’s amazing that we can cooperate in such vast numbers.

  • The Dissident Right Split between Abrahamists, Platonists, and Aristotelians

    Jan 8, 2020, 8:04 AM

    —“The dissident right wing is split on Aristotle and Plato. You being an Aristotelian and someone like Richard Spencer being a Platonist. Save the West with science and law for the Aristotelian vs Save the West with justification and idealism for the Platonist.”—Clown Baby @ClownBa73413423

    Correct.

    Aristotelian < Platonist < Theologian. The three grammars of cognitive development.

    1. Empathic, Narrative, Theological > 2. Rational, Ideal, Platonist > 3. Empirical Measurement Aristotelian. The brain evolves in that order. It’s not a mystery why we preserve the use all three. But why don’t other civ’s?

    1. Feel – Drag (Comfort) – Empathic, Narrative, Theological … 2. Reason – Sell (Explain) – Rational, Ideal, Platonist … … 3. Empirical – Tell (Decide) – Empirical Measurement Aristotelian

  • The Dissident Right Split between Abrahamists, Platonists, and Aristotelians

    Jan 8, 2020, 8:04 AM

    —“The dissident right wing is split on Aristotle and Plato. You being an Aristotelian and someone like Richard Spencer being a Platonist. Save the West with science and law for the Aristotelian vs Save the West with justification and idealism for the Platonist.”—Clown Baby @ClownBa73413423

    Correct.

    Aristotelian < Platonist < Theologian. The three grammars of cognitive development.

    1. Empathic, Narrative, Theological > 2. Rational, Ideal, Platonist > 3. Empirical Measurement Aristotelian. The brain evolves in that order. It’s not a mystery why we preserve the use all three. But why don’t other civ’s?

    1. Feel – Drag (Comfort) – Empathic, Narrative, Theological … 2. Reason – Sell (Explain) – Rational, Ideal, Platonist … … 3. Empirical – Tell (Decide) – Empirical Measurement Aristotelian

  • Iran and The Cost of Face and Honor Culture

    Iran and The Cost of Face and Honor Culture https://propertarianism.com/2020/05/25/iran-and-the-cost-of-face-and-honor-culture/


    Source date (UTC): 2020-05-25 23:20:30 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265060200895168514

  • Iran and The Cost of Face and Honor Culture

    Jan 11, 2020, 11:22 AM The Iranians are a Face-Before-Truth culture so they can’t do what Europeans do, which is say “We don’t know until we’ve investigated”. Instead they just denied – a Face-Before-Truth response. It’s the same reason we can’t believe anything that comes out of that part of the world – the muslim world is Face-Before-Truth, and Respect without Earning it. On the other hand europeans won’t speak the whole truth and explain why the conflict exists, nor do we state that it’s aristotelian truth, literacy, rule of law, capitalism, and reducing the reproduction of our underclasses – not democracy – that made the west successful. And that democracy is a disaster for non-europeans who have not also developed those institutions. In europe our honor comes from truth before face, and respect when earned. This is heroic. It is to bear personal sacrifice on behalf of the polity. And it puts constant pressure on the ‘lower classes’ to improve their behavior. So this is why europe is high trust, builds large organizations, relatively free of corruption, and why it’s materially good for underclasses but they’re continuously under social pressure to ‘mature’ into paying the high costs of truth before face, earning respect by behavior, defense of the commons, and doing one’s duty regardless of cost.