Theme: Civilization

  • @Weiss_Drache Does anyone really deny that the camps existed, that they were imi

    @Weiss_Drache

    Does anyone really deny that the camps existed, that they were imitations of the Jewish bolshevik use of camps of Russia, or that the prisoners were put to work as forced labor, or that by the end of the war the prisoners were starved to death or murdered in large numbers because the state decided no longer to pay for their maintenance and care?

    As far as I know the only debate is over whether the jews were practicing corruption by the usurpation of institutions of cultural production (as they had repeatedly elsewhere), whether the numbers of dead were dramatized, whether or not there was use of gas chambers, whether the original intent was relocation or extermination, and that the natural economics of any such program by a country losing a war would be to maximize resources directed to the people and military rather than ‘undesirables’, resulting in the camps we saw at the end of the war.

    In other words, who is being honest or dishonest? what is the truth. The truth is rather obvious from the evidence. The untruth is rather obvious from t he evidence, and the motivated reasoning, and motivated propaganda. AFAIK every objector is just demanding the truth. (And yes, there may be some fking crazies who deny it all, just as there are crazies that fictionalize it all. )

    As far as I can tell when the postwar generation has died off, which will occur shortly, the public understanding will adjust to the evidence, and the evidence is pretty clear that camps were created with the intent of relocation, that the war caused need for slave labor, then drove deprivation, starvation, and killings. That smaller numbers died than claimed. That postwar propaganda was used for political purposes. That the Germans were organizing to prevent the expansion of Jewish bolshevism from Russia into Germany (and anglo liberalism as well). That the postwar jewish marxists moved from germany to the usa and converted from class warfare that caused russian and german conflict, to race warfare that caused broader european and american social conflict. As such, there was no different intention of a purge of the jews this time than any other, or any different from the exit of the Moors from Spain, and that the original rather optimistic nature of the camps degenerated as the war pressed on for rather ordinary reasons that would occur and have occurred in history as resources are depleted.

    As far as I know, that’s the empirical evidence, and it’s all rational, it’s not dramatic, or especially ‘evil’ at all. It’s nothing compared to the Albegentsian crusades, the Inquisition, or even the protestant use of claims of witchcraft as a proxy for continuing the dominance of Protestantism over catholicism and other ‘heretics’.

    ( continued in next comment … )


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-27 19:48:41 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107696155632141287

  • Boost of @DrRicardoDuchesne The logic of Gregory Clark’s widely acclaimed book,

    Boost of @DrRicardoDuchesne The logic of Gregory Clark’s widely acclaimed book, A Farewell to Alms (2007), is succinctly simple and insightful: the quality of life for the vast majority of humans across the world — in terms of living standards, exposure to diseases, life expectancy, sanitation, working conditions — barely improved between 10,000 BC and 1800. Hunter gatherers were slightly better off than post-Neolithic peoples in terms of diet, working hours, and leisure. Humans in all post-Neolithic societies thereafter (except for a tiny elite) remained trapped in a Malthusian world where technological advances merely produced more people growing food in less fertile lands, driving down living standards, generating diseases, and bringing inevitable declines in population. The only way to eke out a living above mere subsistence was through limitations on fertility.

    “Jane Austen may have written about refined conversations over tea served in china cups […] small elites had an opulent lifestyle, [but] the average person in 1800 was no better off than his or her ancestors of the Paleolithic or Neolithic”. “Over the long run” income “is more powerful than any ideology or religion in shaping lives”.

    England was the first nation to escape this Malthusian trap “due largely” to the adoption by aristocratic families of “bourgeois values of hard work, spendthrift, patience, honesty, rationality, curiosity, and learning”. Darwinian pressures were stronger on the poor, leading to fewer surviving children, whereas the wealthy classes had two times as many surviving children in the years 1250-1800, leading to the genetic spread of bourgeois values across England.

    Adam Smith, and all the economists who followed him since, are wrong in thinking that “people are the same everywhere” in their inclination to behave in a “bourgeois way” the moment new institutional frameworks [lower taxes, security of property and freer markets] are created offering them incentives to invest in better technology. What happened is that the higher survival rate of segments of the aristocracy with bourgeois values eventually changed the genetic character of the population of Britain, creating a new people with psychological traits for thriftiness, hard work, and prudence — replacing the old values of aristocratic impulsiveness, violent temperaments, spendrift, and “leisure loving”.

    So what could be wrong with this incredibly neat, cogent, and logical explanation? The book ends with the observation that “there is little evidence of gains in happiness from gains in income, life expectancy, or health by societes as a whole” once societes reached the levels of income of the hunter gatherers who were slightly better off on average than humans from the Neolithic revolution to 1800s. History was all for naught.

    This account leaves out the meanigfull side of history: the high achievements before 1800 by Europeans in architecture, painting, music, philosophy, science, conquest of the world.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-27 19:44:51 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107696236911717319

  • HOLOCAUST TRUTH Does anyone really deny that the camps existed, that they were i

    HOLOCAUST TRUTH

    Does anyone really deny that the camps existed, that they were imitations of the Jewish bolshevik use of camps of Russia, or that the prisoners were put to work as forced labor, or that by the end of the war the prisoners were starved to death or murdered in large numbers because the state decided no longer to pay for their maintenance and care?

    As far as I know the only debate is over whether the jews were practicing corruption by the usurpation of institutions of cultural production (as they had repeatedly elsewhere), whether the numbers of dead were dramatized, whether or not there was use of gas chambers, whether the original intent was relocation or extermination, and that the natural economics of any such program by a country losing a war would be to maximize resources directed to the people and military rather than ‘undesirables’, resulting in the camps we saw at the end of the war.

    In other words, who is being honest or dishonest? what is the truth. The truth is rather obvious from the evidence. The untruth is rather obvious from t he evidence, and the motivated reasoning, and motivated propaganda. AFAIK every objector is just demanding the truth. (And yes, there may be some fking crazies who deny it all, just as there are crazies that fictionalize it all. )

    As far as I can tell when the postwar generation has died off, which will occur shortly, the public understanding will adjust to the evidence, and the evidence is pretty clear that camps were created with the intent of relocation, that the war caused need for slave labor, then drove deprivation, starvation, and killings. That smaller numbers died than claimed. That postwar propaganda was used for political purposes. That the Germans were organizing to prevent the expansion of Jewish bolshevism from Russia into Germany (and anglo liberalism as well). That the postwar jewish marxists moved from germany to the usa and converted from class warfare that caused russian and german conflict, to race warfare that caused broader european and american social conflict. As such, there was no different intention of a purge of the jews this time than any other, or any different from the exit of the Moors from Spain, and that the original rather optimistic nature of the camps degenerated as the war pressed on for rather ordinary reasons that would occur and have occurred in history as resources are depleted.

    As far as I know, that’s the empirical evidence, and it’s all rational, it’s not dramatic, or especially ‘evil’ at all. It’s nothing compared to the Albegentsian crusades, the Inquisition, or even the protestant use of claims of witchcraft as a proxy for continuing the dominance of Protestantism over catholicism and other ‘heretics’.

    ( continued in comments … )


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-27 19:44:14 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107696138112274496

  • Window of opportunity b/c world flash points, usa and eu weakness, commodity pri

    Window of opportunity b/c world flash points, usa and eu weakness, commodity prices, reserves, nato weakness. USA has every sign of social collapse, europe has demographic collapse. Both USA and Russia benefit economicslly from disruption more so than order, china strategically.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-27 06:09:17 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486582060835909634

    Reply addressees: @adiaph0ra

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486576178366324736

  • no. it means the conflict of civs returns, deglobalization cycle has begun, auta

    no. it means the conflict of civs returns, deglobalization cycle has begun, autarkic networks will return, and that the world will get smaller in many ways. This happened a century ago. And it’s happend repeatedly in the ancient world. Thankfully prices don’t matter so much.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-27 06:05:46 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486581176680734724

    Reply addressees: @Nordacus

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486580298229993473

  • @Ozpin88 WHatever he said or not, his people were the ones who did the damage to

    @Ozpin88 WHatever he said or not, his people were the ones who did the damage to us.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-26 23:59:44 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107691480462641263

  • @dleetr He’s very good at what he does, and it’s hard to really disagree with hi

    @dleetr He’s very good at what he does, and it’s hard to really disagree with him – he just doesn’t know what to do about it. And his understanding of the historical origins of the value of the female is insufficient so he misses the point of how easily it can be corrected.

    I have only had one interaction with it, where I didn’t know it was him, he misinterpreted what I was saying, and I said something rather silly in response. He’s competent.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-26 05:46:09 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107687180305442177

  • @Enterpainment War, Conquest, Genocide, Murder, Rape, Theft, Superstition, Ignor

    @Enterpainment War, Conquest, Genocide, Murder, Rape, Theft, Superstition, Ignorance, and a thousand other behaviors are present in primitive society. I don’t really want to cover it, but the fact that we evolved an adaptiva capacity that produced both goods and bads, doesn’t mean that we havent and should’t continue to incrementally suppress the bads and the externalities that they produce

    The subconsious assumption your making (or at least your implying) is that evolution contains a precision that it doesn’t. There is a single dimension of human adaptation over the past 300k years and it’s a rather simple one of radically increasing our rate of cognitive adaptation.

    That doesn’t mean all that it’s possible to do with that adaptation has been selected out of us …. yet.

    Has more so in whites an asians, and perhaps best in whites in some cases and best in whites in others.

    contrary to popular psychological belief it turns out that empathy, sympathy, agreeableness, and docility are cognitively maladaptive. Contrary to the same popular belief, the male autism spectrum is a defect rather than an evolutionary direction that produces almost all ‘goods’. Contrary to popular belief it turns out that women are intrinsically evil and it’s only the burden of childcare that civilizes them. There are a lot of things that evolution gets wrong, but norms, traditions, values, institutsions get right.


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-26 05:44:14 UTC

    Original post: https://gab.com/curtd/posts/107687172830958068

  • I have extrordinary knoweldge of what im talking about. The question is, what’s

    I have extrordinary knoweldge of what im talking about. The question is, what’s ‘european’. If you want to know what’s purest it’s western hunter gatherers. If you mean modern european, it’s germanic europe. If you mean steppe, then that’s the north. What’s your definition?


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-25 20:48:12 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486078471730253831

    Reply addressees: @bigcopium123 @NNpcson @FaXistic @Lord_Keynes2

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486075705406414852

  • Proto European Genetics = Hunter Gatherer. European Admixture Origins = Corded W

    Proto European Genetics = Hunter Gatherer. European Admixture Origins = Corded W

    Proto European Genetics = Hunter Gatherer.
    European Admixture Origins = Corded Ware.
    Anatolian Farmer Introgression-Hybridization
    European Group Evolutionary Strategy = Late Aryan/Steppe

    Depends on which argument you’re making. https://t.co/gnq37PYn2O


    Source date (UTC): 2022-01-25 20:15:40 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486070284490784778

    Reply addressees: @NNpcson @FaXistic @Lord_Keynes2

    Replying to: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1486064923394383876