Theme: Civilization

  • As far as I can tell germanic myths and fairy tales (the religion of the europea

    As far as I can tell germanic myths and fairy tales (the religion of the european harth and home) as well as the matter of greece, rome, france, germany, and england (and the slaves – what’s left of it” is far better than the semitic.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 15:06:03 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661388095181279244

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  • Nietzche undestood the problem. He failed to solve it. So when discussing neitzc

    Nietzche undestood the problem. He failed to solve it. So when discussing neitzche we see an intuition to heroism and the restoration of ancient civilization and tradition, overcoming the evolutionar decadence of the christian, but he couldn’t solve it.
    Unfortunately, the Scholastics understood but they couldn’t merge with the Romantics and bring about the full restoration of european civilization.
    Germans tried. Almost did it.

    Reply addressees: @zmb_bllbry_mffn


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 15:03:36 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661387479176413189

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  • (a) I agree (b) I know why and can explain it, (c) No civ is without sin (d) we

    (a) I agree (b) I know why and can explain it, (c) No civ is without sin (d) we pay the cost for every one of these choices – we must only compare which costs we wish to pay.

    The british like the americans err on stable state of cooperation that benefits trade. But that’s because we are germainic (scandinavian) naval cultures surrounded by the sea, and not german continental land cultures surrounded by enemies.

    Reply addressees: @CarlosThorium


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 15:01:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661386909929668613

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  • Not quite. We can change the story to more accurately reflect the laws of the un

    Not quite. We can change the story to more accurately reflect the laws of the universe at will – within what the circumstance and the demographics can tolerate without dissolution.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 14:49:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661383890039107586

    Reply addressees: @Will_of_Europa @WerrellBradley @RealLouisPrince

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  • The use of war, sport, feast, festival and finally the participatory play, with

    The use of war, sport, feast, festival and finally the participatory play, with the audience as chorus, as ‘church’ and the use of competitive awards for the best play from the best authors, indoctinating everyone into the heroic tradition of overcoming human failty and nature’s…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 14:37:01 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661380789798334465

    Reply addressees: @DwightExMachina

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  • Nietzche was only half right, but the half he was right about was hella right ab

    Nietzche was only half right, but the half he was right about was hella right about – and at a depth that most humans can’t imagine is possible.

    Too bad he was German. They have to spiritualize, rationalize, psychologize and romanticize everything. I’ll stick with my rigouous Anglo scientific and legal empiricism. 😉 Anglos just need to know it’s true, reciprocal, and capitalizing to feel good about it. We don’t need other ‘feelz’. And americans are even more ‘western’ in that sense than the brits. The founders were trying to recreate rome and they did a surprisingly good job of it until the 1960s.


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 13:54:16 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661370028539740162

  • “Question: What do you make of the theory that religion was necessary to organiz

    –“Question: What do you make of the theory that religion was necessary to organize humans past the 150 line for hunter gather tribes?”–

    I think I’m making that argument every day, even if I’m not sure 150 is the number. It looks like it’s much larger. But yes. Why? Humans…


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 13:12:35 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661359537813684225

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  • “Question: What do you make of the theory that religion was necessary to organiz

    –“Question: What do you make of the theory that religion was necessary to organize humans past the 150 line for hunter gather tribes?”–

    I think I’m making that argument every day, even if I’m not sure 150 is the number. It looks like it’s much larger. But yes. Why? Humans require a system of weights and measures for both understanding and subsequent behavior. Religion provides an external system of measurment, and one that can be ‘compromised upon’ between groups. That doesn’t force a competition for dominance between groups.

    So in the broad, sense, yes, you’re intuition is correct.

    As for Weinstein he’s unsophisticated in understanding such things but at the level of low resolution he’s not ENTIRELY wrong. However, instead, myths and oaths and rituals generally contain whatever agreement is necessary between the people to intergenerationally persist their group evolutionary strategy. And yes our group evolutionary strategies appear to have been standardized by the time of, or just after, the bronze age collapse.

    The only way to educate before writing and certainly after writing but before literacy, was stories. And myths had to be coherent with one another and they had to include one of the three fictionalisms in order pretend knowledge that they didn’t have at the time to rely on. Myth is the equivalent of “well, just because.”

    -Curt


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 13:12:34 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661359537629061122

  • “~Q: How did pre-Christian europe deal with alienation before the monotheistic r

    “~Q: How did pre-Christian europe deal with alienation before the monotheistic religions provided it?”

    They dealt with it through state(government), nation, religion, and identity, myth, oath, ritual, and festival. Just like the monotheistic religions do. It was just local, regional, and civilizational, before the abrhamic attempt at cross-civilizational religion by the jewish unification in jewish christianity of (a) semitic supernatural mythicsm of good and evil representing the relationship between slaves, their fear, lack of agency, and rulers, and (b) european supernormal mythos and reason of order and chaos representing the relationship between man, his reason, his agency, and the chaos of irresponsible nature. The result is Semitic Slave morality vs European Aristocratic morality.

    EVOLUTION OF SPIRITUALISM (SATING THE INTUITION VS NATURE) AND RELIGION (SATING THE INTUITION VS MANKIND)
    All religious motive evolves from the pack spectrum of the being-left-behind (alienation) response, the liability (guilt) and the the debt (reciprocity) response, causing the submission response, and the submission response is a remnant of the submission to the pack response, particularly when running or moving as a group. That’s why submission ‘feels good’: provoking the feeling of elation and safety in running with the pack.

    All religious intuition evolves from the sedating the feast (positive) and death (negative) response, that suppresses anxiety and inalienation by internal submission to the pack, in the face of either windfall (feast) or loss (death). Grave goods are a debt payment, and a demonstration of loyalty and care. They also serve to warrant to others that one is not responsible for the death, or apologizes for anything to do with it. And more, it serves to bind the group together given their shared risk of mortality – “don’t leave me behind”.

    All formal religious ritual (AFAWK) evolved from the initiatic brotherhood of warriors who risked hunt and war together at great risk – where ‘unit cohesion’ (reciprocal insurance) was necessary for both victory and survival.

    PAYMENT OF DEBTS
    Sacrifice is the means of relieving debt instincts. So in families and tribes we share; with leadership we ‘thank’ with gifts, and with gods we ‘thank or ask’ with sacrifices. For example The word ‘god’ in the west indo european languages is the word for ‘pour’. Meaning the ritual sacrifice of beer to the gods.

    LEADERSHIP
    All religous leadership evolves from specialization in those myths, oaths, rituals, feasts and festivals, and all religious nuance evolves over the pretense of knowledge and compentency demonstrated by these priesthoods.

    CLASS RELATIONS
    In european natural religion (vs abrahamic sythetic religions) aristocracy demonstrated loyalty to the people by the performance of rituals, and the priesthoods were responsible for knowing and arranging those rituals. In the semitic religions, the priesthood demonstrated and reinforced loyalty to and among the people against the ruling aristocracy.

    ANCHORING BY RELIGION
    Abrahamic religions, were created by and spread by the lower classes who were increasingly left behind by rise of trade and in particular imperial trade, just like the lower classes were left behind (or felt it) by the industrial revolution – despite that both greco-roman trade, roman administration, roman peace, and the industrial revolution primarily benefitted the lower classes at the expense of the power of the upperclasses.

    GROUP STRATEGY
    ( … )

    UNIVERSAL ANTHROPOMORPHIC SYSTEM OF MEASUREMENT.
    ( … )

    SUMMARY
    ( … )

    (More as this sequence on the evolution of religion continues … gotta exit the cafe now. 😉 )

    Reply addressees: @RealLouisPrince


    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-24 12:52:44 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661354542498304000

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  • Jews != Phoenicians. Not sure where you’re getting confused. Pre-Bronze Age Coll

    Jews != Phoenicians.
    Not sure where you’re getting confused.
    Pre-Bronze Age Collapse
    … All Caananites
    After-Bronze Age Collapse (Age of Transformation)
    … Phoenicians = Naval (Think England)
    … vs
    … Jews = Landed (Think Germany)

    -“In terms of culture, language and customs, they were almost completely the same. Before the Bronze dark ages, neither identity existed. Everybody from Tyre to Jericho was a Canaanite, spoke dialects of Canaanite language, and worshipped Canaanite gods.

    We don’t really know what happened during the Bronze Age Collapse but afterwards we see that the Northern Canaanites developed a sea-ward looking identity and started calling themselves Phoenician, while the southern canaanites started developing a new religion, putting their warrior god, Yahweh, at the top of the pantheon (still not monotheistic), organized themselves into comparatively larger kingdoms as opposed to city-states (which the Phoenicians still retained despite having a larger national identity) and calling themselves Israelites.

    Even then, they were more similar than different. They still spoke the same language, though now their dialects were more distinct, had similar lifestyles, had a sense of solidarity with each other often uniting to fight foreign enemies and rarely fighting each other, and had similar pottery and architectural styles. In fact Solomon’s famous temple was largely constructed by hired Phoenician craftsmen, which shows the close cooperation that occurred between the two groups. The northern and coastal Israelite tribes also had the same maritime culture of the Phoenicians. While they were clearly different nationalities by this point, it is quite clear that they still belonged to the same Canaanite civilization, something that they themselves seemed to recognize.”-

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    Source date (UTC): 2023-05-23 20:52:21 UTC

    Original post: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661112855343628288

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